BOTS Bane versus ROTS Anakin and ROTS Obi Wan

I'm not in the mood for a long ass debate, so I'll just post a few things.

1. Quordis was in no way weak. In terms of the force, as a spirit, he was able to crash Bane's ship in BotS. Obi-Wan was powerless as a spirit, so that should give you some indication that Quordis was stronger with the force. RotS Anakin stalemated a weaker Obi-Wan in a force pushing contest.. Based on those few facts, I'd say it wouldn't be unreasonable to suggest that with the force, Quordis is stronger than either of these two.

2. What you don't seem to get, is that when Bane had to charge up his force drain, he was much weaker than his BotS incarnation. Firstly, the few months of experience he received after this point, as well as the major power surge he gained from Nadd's holocron would have made him much more powerful with the force. Secondly, his orbalisk armour constantly pumps darkside energies into his body, meaning he would have a far greater reserve of force energy to pull off attacks.

3. You do realise it would take less than a second for Bane to pull off a force attack, right? To argue that Anakin or Obi-Wan would be able to reach him with a saber in that time is ridiculous to assume, and completely unsupported.

And really, it's not like Bane doesn't have other ways of firmly winning this.

Bane was able to summon a miniature force storm (which alone would likely be enough to overwhelm the duo, given that Yoda, their superior, pretty much struggled with defending a basic and simplistic version of force lightning with his saber), and this was at a stage where:

1. He had only just learned the technique an hour before doing said feat (his expertise with the technique would be much greater after getting used to using the technique).

2. Before gaining over a year's more training and experience that he does by BotS.

3. Before his first major power surge after learning from Revan's holocron.

4. Before his second major power surge after learning from Nadd's holocron.

5. Before gaining the orbalisk armour which constantly fuels him with darkside energies.

Taking all of those points into consideration, by BotS, he would be able to perform the technique to a much much greater effect, and I really don't see how the duo would be able to defend against a storm of lightning to that magnitude.

1. Obi Wan was powerless? Are you kidding? He could pop up out of the cut whenever he wanted, could speak telepathically to Luke whenever he wanted, he posses and took control of Lukes body in SotME, And he helped defeat the Sith Vartonis on Mustafar. That >>>>> crashing a small ship. BOTS sucks so damn much, Bane is now scared of the dude he just owned while laughing? He's now scared of Kaan? He now DIDN'T orchestrate the entire down fall of the Sith? He now feels bad for doing it? He's just completely forgot everything Revan taught him? Its such bull shit thats been retconed and full of contradictions, I seriously doubt that its even canon anymore.

2. He doesn't have Nadds holocron, he found a holocron in Nadds tomb but its never specified WHAT it was and considering the tomb had been raided by Exar Kun, The Jedi, Nihlius's Sith, The Exile and her company, and likely Revan too, so really its nothing of consequence.

3. That little section is retconned anyways, since he supposedly crafts the Rof2 after what he learned from that holocron, and as we all know it was REVAN's holocron that he got the idea from thus making that whole little section useless and not canon

4. He ALREADY thought he could move planets in PoD by the end of the novel, and since BOTS is also from his head and all the planet moving talk was coming from inside Bane's head not a narrator, you really have no point.

5. Don't compare Bane to Sidious, Sidious lightning >> Banes the difference between them is Bane was just doing a random display of power with no objective in sight, while Sidious was you know AIMING and trying to hit a SINGLE foe, and we already see Sidious duplicate his feat when we see him zap over 100 people at once,and even then he still exhibits control over it. So unless your purposing Bane starts unleashing wild random force storms, which in EVERY duel we've seen him in, even his most drastic he wouldn't even attempt, I would drop the point.

6. You have not real point other then "Bane got stronger with the Orbalisks" a power you can't quantify so for you to randomly say "Liek Bane could do it in a secnd!" is bull shit.

Originally posted by xxXAcStylesXxx
1. Obi Wan was powerless? Are you kidding? He could pop up out of the cut whenever he wanted,

Actually, by his own admission, as his spirit grew older, he was losing power and could no longer contact Luke as a spirit.

could speak telepathically to Luke whenever he wanted,

That goes for any spirit.

he posses and took control of Lukes body in SotME,

Ok, I'll admit that I didn't know about this, but really, what's so great about it? From what I've recently heard, he didn't so much possess and take control of Luke's body like you put it, but simply slightly guided his movements. But so? And what? Crashing a ship would take far more power, and is SotME even canon?

And he helped defeat the Sith Vartonis on Mustafar. That >>>>> crashing a small ship.

1. I'll admit that I didn't know about this either, but are the story aspects of Star Wars Galaxies even canon?

2. Again, what's so great about it? So he helped some random spacer defeat a sith lord. We have no idea how he did so, nothing about the feat has been elaborated on, so you can't really use it in an argument, as you can't quantify how powerful Obi-Wan's spirit had to be to do said feat, and whether Quordis' spirit would have been able to or not.

BOTS sucks so damn much, Bane is now scared of the dude he just owned while laughing? He's now scared of Kaan? He now DIDN'T orchestrate the entire down fall of the Sith? He now feels bad for doing it? He's just completely forgot everything Revan taught him? Its such bull shit thats been retconed and full of contradictions, I seriously doubt that its even canon anymore.

Aspects of the story have been retconned, however some parts or the source, such as the orbalisks have been referenced in other sources, so minus the contradictions, it's fully canon.

2. He doesn't have Nadds holocron, he found a holocron in Nadds tomb but its never specified WHAT it was and considering the tomb had been raided by Exar Kun, The Jedi, Nihlius's Sith, The Exile and her company, and likely Revan too, so really its nothing of consequence.

Dude, does it matter whether it was Nadd's holocron or not? My point wasn't who's holocron it was, but that the power surge he received from it was considerable.

3. That little section is retconned anyways, since he supposedly crafts the Rof2 after what he learned from that holocron, and as we all know it was REVAN's holocron that he got the idea from thus making that whole little section useless and not canon

It retcons the idea that he formed the Rule of Two based on what was inside the holocron's teachings. The facts still remain that the holocron existed, that Bane came across the holocron, and that he gained a major power surge from its teachings.

4. He ALREADY thought he could move planets in PoD by the end of the novel,

Huh? Page number, because I for one sure as hell don't remember that.

and since BOTS is also from his head and all the planet moving talk was coming from inside Bane's head not a narrator, you really have no point.

No, I do have a point, and that is that Bane recognised the huge power surge he received from the holocron.

5. Don't compare Bane to Sidious, Sidious lightning >> Banes the difference between them is Bane was just doing a random display of power with no objective in sight, while Sidious was you know AIMING and trying to hit a SINGLE foe,

You miss my point. I wasn't arguing the power of his lightning, but the magnitude he could produce on such a small scale. Sidious doesn't have that kind of control over his lightning, and when concentrating it on a single target, he can only produce individual blasts, and not storms. Bane has proven that he has that kind of control and mastery over his lightning, and at a point where he's far from as powerful with the force than he is by BotS, at a point where his mastery is nowhere near the level it is by BotS, and at a point where his familiarity with the technique is minimal. Power becomes irrelevant, when considering that the primary defence for such a tangible attack: the lightsaber, can't possibly protect its user's entire body from lightning, and wouldn't be sufficient a defence against a storm of lightning concentrated on a single target, which Bane can do.

And please, Bane is far more powerful than RotS Sidious, and his lightning would likely be much stronger anyway, but that was never the point I was arguing so it doesn't matter.

and we already see Sidious duplicate his feat when we see him zap over 100 people at once,and even then he still exhibits control over it.

Either:
1. He grows much more powerful after RotS by this point.
2. The display is inconsistent with the movies.

The point is, RotS Sidious clearly isn't at that level of power which is evident in the movie. And again, he still shows no clear signs that he can control a high magnitude of lightning on a small scale like Bane could.

So unless your purposing Bane starts unleashing wild random force storms, which in EVERY duel we've seen him in, even his most drastic he wouldn't even attempt, I would drop the point.

Absence of proof /= proof of Absence. Just because Bane never chooses to unleash a force power before a lightsaber duel begins, it doesn't mean he can't. Perhaps he was confident in his saber ability. Perhaps Kas'im was too powerful to fall to such an attack.

6. You have not real point other then "Bane got stronger with the Orbalisks" a power you can't quantify so for you to randomly say "Liek Bane could do it in a secnd!" is bull shit.

Dude, they constantly fuel him with darkside energies. That, along with how powerful he's grown since, and it's ridiculous to assume that he would have to charge up for such an attack.

Well if you take my post out of context, then yeah it fits your argument, I went on to include that HOWEVER in Anakins case, since when his rage and fear and doubts are in his head, it serves to weaken him more then it helps, making him a reckless berserker who can't think straight. Now Anakin in his "crystal clear" state which you put him in in this duel is not in that berserker state. Basically if Anakin can't focus it makes him weaker.

You said that “rage should give him great power” but make him more reckless earlier, which was for the most part, the stance that I held. With his great power, he should easily be able to push back Obi Wan. It’d only be detrimental because in other points of his duel he’d do something stupid like jumping even when having the lower ground, but in that specific instance they were both stuck in the deadlock and even with Anakin’s beserker fury his force skills were not augmented enough to send Kenobi flying.

We've likely seen Anakin manifest this state twice, the first during his duel with Assaji Ventress on Yavin 4 when he goes from being relatively equal with her to completely overpowering and destroying her in a few second,the same with his duel with Dooku.

Anakin in this state as a pure saber combatant could contend with almost anyone in the SW universe.

This is the same guy who pretty much single handedly ruined the EU with his "Uber" feats that made the movie characters look like jokes in TOTJ and FOTS and random stupid super weapons.

Oh and did I mention his horrible writing?

That was coming from inside Banes head, so it really doesn't mean shit, let me remind you Padawan Anakin thought he was a match for Yoda.

C. Its easy to have the bird you know sit down and rest, and he has the ability to use the force to summon beasts so really its not that hard to find a new one.

So, because we have one source saying everything "EVENTUALLY" breaks to a lightsaber. and we have Bane swiping at the Orbalisks once, its all of a sudden an exception to the rule?

Not really if he has anything that even touches his brain his pretty much done for, sand really please explain to me how burnt, cauterized cells can be restored?

Its not that he'd have no clue, its just he wouldn't be "as familiar" as he would against a foe using a staff saber.

They'd both beat him (Mace and Yoda)

and Dooku likely too, but that is anther topic and I wont debate it here.

Again your saying as if he can just spam force attacks, why didn't he just start spamming force waves on Kas'im?

Again...how would that happen? There would have to be space between the foes first off for Bane to even consider a force attack and then there's Kenboi to pop up when he attempts one

then you have to prove that his attacks will even kill/hurt Anakin, considering Anakin took a force charged boot to the face from Dooku that flung him 10 feet

he's literally run through force pushes before and didn't even bother to put up a shield (Ventress duel of Yavin)

has been electrocuted severely through his robotic hand for 15 seconds

What your not getting is its HOW he beat him he beat him with one hand while holding anther being in the other.

Did I say he was mediocre? No. Sure by Kas'im definition he's a master good for him, but does he know the most advanced movements of the form like Anakin does?

A. So in the weeks time while Anakin was self loathing, crying over his suit, and basically being an all around *****. He took the time to learn almost every single form of combat...No. He knew these things before his tenure as Dark Lord

B. Yeah he's just like Kas'im only you know...stronger.

Wow, that was a very bad analogy, unlike Qordis we see Dooku, battling multiple Jedi Masters, being called one of the most powerful beings to ever exist, tooling Grevious

Like I said, I never stated that Qordis was stronger than Dooku. As Nebaris posted previously, Qordis was able to destroy Bane’s ship, and send it plummeting towards the ground, which is definitely an impressive display of the force, considering Sith spirits were described as being pathetically weak. Yet Bane completely and utterly overwhelmed his defenses with a single projection of the force.

No, the Jedi had just joined in after the first battle of Rusaan, and Qordis was a teacher on the Academy, we have NO evidence of him engaging in any actual combat with Jedi, simply saying "well he was in a militaristic time" is BS

especially when we have Sith from the KOTOR era on the Academy who didn't engage in combat with the Jedi (Uthar and Yuthura)

Considering how hard pressed that order was for actual talent and the fact that he was shitting his pants over a Student Bane, I'd say not.

Yup, comes out in November for the 360 and PS3 with a brand new engine built by LA for this game and it is intended to be the next EU "event" with a novel, comic series, and source book coming out for it. It was developed directly under the supervision of Lucas and is gonna be legitimately part of the continuity.

That is sick. It still doesn’t beat KOTOR 3 when it's coming out though. IMO, KOTOR was the culmination of all LA skillz in the video game buisness. 😛

You play as Vaders secret apprentice (he's training you to help over throw the Palpy) and you hunt down the remaining Jedi (You get to fight Shaak Ti) But yeah Vader will probably be uber in that considering all the shit his student can do.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_...29#Force_

Lol, it should be interesting. Hopefully they have a secret ending where you can fight and defeat Vader or Palpy themselves. 😛

Actually, by his own admission, as his spirit grew older, he was losing power and could no longer contact Luke as a spirit.

So, Qordis's fades after Yavin...Ben lasted for years, that alone proves your point wrong.

Ok, I'll admit that I didn't know about this, but really, what's so great about it? From what I've recently heard, he didn't so much possess and take control of Luke's body like you put it, but simply slightly guided his movements. But so? And what? Crashing a ship would take far more power, and is SotME even canon?

Yes SoTME is canon, I don't see how crashing a small ship trumps possession. Please tell me how. Especially when we've seen a decrepit Yoda lift and suspend and move around an X Wing which. And really...he didn't even crash te ship he used the force to disrupt the controls and stop the engine thus causing the ship to stop, your hyping the feat beyond belief.

Your claiming by just because of that he's now stronger then Anakin and Obi Wan in the force...get real.

Aspects of the story have been retconned, however some parts or the source, such as the orbalisks have been referenced in other sources, so minus the contradictions, it's fully canon.

So because the Orbalisks are canon...the entire story thats FULL of contradictions is too now? Do you really want me to breaks just how many contradictions are in that stupid short story?

Dude, does it matter whether it was Nadd's holocron or not? My point wasn't who's holocron it was, but that the power surge he received from it was considerable.

That was apparently the exact same power surge he got earlier...Bane apparently forgets EVERYTHING from Revan, gets substantially weaker, and has a complete character change. The power surge is BS because BTOS Bane is MUCH weaker then PoD Bane:

Though under the tutelage of Lord Qordis, Bane had never finished his training. He had listened to other instructors, studied some of the ancient writings, but there was much about the dark side he had yet to learn.

WTF? Bane at the end of PoD thanks to Revan's holocron was practically a master of the Dark Side, He received more "training" from that holocron then he'd every received at the Academy, and now all of a sudden he needs to learn more?! LOL.

Now, Bane had no choice but to teach himself, and he had the incentive to achieve Sith skills. He hoped Kaan's avatar would assist him, but even without its sinister aid, Bane would do everything possible to resurrect the Sith Brotherhood.

So now he doesn't even have most "Sith Skills" and he's hoping for Kaan to aid him? AND he wants to RESURRECT the Brotherhood! Sorry buddo but a LARGE majority of BOTS is NOT canon.

It retcons the idea that he formed the Rule of Two based on what was inside the holocron's teachings. The facts still remain that the holocron existed, that Bane came across the holocron, and that he gained a major power surge from its teachings.

See above, in BOTS after leaving the ship Bane is ridicules weak, compared to his PoD incarnation. And let me ask why is Kaan helping Bane...why does Bane want to resurrect the brotherhood?

Huh? Page number, because I for one sure as hell don't remember that.

I don't have my book with me but once I do I'll give it too you.

No, I do have a point, and that is that Bane recognised the huge power surge he received from the holocron.

Not really.

You miss my point. I wasn't arguing the power of his lightning, but the magnitude he could produce on such a small scale. Sidious doesn't have that kind of control over his lightning, and when concentrating it on a single target, he can only produce individual blasts, and not storms. Bane has proven that he has that kind of control and mastery over his lightning, and at a point where he's far from as powerful with the force than he is by BotS, at a point where his mastery is nowhere near the level it is by BotS, and at a point where his familiarity with the technique is minimal. Power becomes irrelevant, when considering that the primary defence for such a tangible attack: the lightsaber, can't possibly protect its user's entire body from lightning, and wouldn't be sufficient a defence against a storm of lightning concentrated on a single target, which Bane can do.

Sidious doesn't have that kind of control...where did you get that shit from? Bane hasn't proven shit with his lightning other then he can produce uncontrolled storms nad he gets lost in the frenzy, big whoop. Now lets see him do that in a fight, where a user could simply put a shield up to block it.

And please, Bane is far more powerful than RotS Sidious, and his lightning would likely be much stronger anyway, but that was never the point I was arguing so it doesn't matter.

Sure buddy, just about everything disagrees with you.

Either:
1. He grows much more powerful after RotS by this point.
2. The display is inconsistent with the movies.

The point is, RotS Sidious clearly isn't at that level of power which is evident in the movie. And again, he still shows no clear signs that he can control a high magnitude of lightning on a small scale like Bane could.

Dude, they constantly fuel him with darkside energies. That, along with how powerful he's grown since, and it's ridiculous to assume that he would have to charge up for such an attack.

Dude, I don't give a shit. His power is very much inconsistent from PoD to BOTS, the Orbalisks are an added bonus that constantly pump ADRENALINE. Get it right, he has to feed THEM with DS energy.

We all know Bane is your paramour, but please stop the cock sucking.

You said that “rage should give him great power” but make him more reckless earlier, which was for the most part, the stance that I held. With his great power, he should easily be able to push back Obi Wan. It’d only be detrimental because in other points of his duel he’d do something stupid like jumping even when having the lower ground, but in that specific instance they were both stuck in the deadlock and even with Anakin’s beserker fury his force skills were not augmented enough to send Kenobi flying.

Whats your point? Hasn't it been long established that force powers are tied to how you focus? Example: Luke not being able to lift the XWing because of his self doubt, and other emotions the same was happening to Anakin.

Yes, I agree with you here. But then again, Bane would destroy Assaj Ventres and he would overwhelm Dooku like he did to Kas’im as well. So I don’t know how Anakin “entering this state of mind” and defeating the aforementioned figures serves to illustrate that he’d defeat Bane at all. Hell, I would imagine that Assaj’s bones would crack into hundreds if she decided to engage Bane.

I just wanted to post that thats all...just me rambling...

He’d certainly be a good duelist, but there are a few people who could stalemate him and many who could probably beat him. Revan would probably be able to stalemate him in pure saber combat; given how he was able to defeat a Star Forge empowered Malak multiple times. Same goes for Kas’im. IMO Bane would be able to defeat him by BOTS. Yoda and Mace would also be able to defeat him. From the NJO, Luke, Kyp, and Jacen would probably defeat him.
In the grand scheme of things I would rank him as superior but not necessarily among the best.

Considering we've never seen Revan attack a foe with a saber, I don't see how you could rank him above Skywalker, Revan could have used the force in that duel as it was is main talent. Kyp and Jacen...no not really. But other then that those are different matter for different topics, and I honestly don't really care about them at the moment cause it'll only serve to lengthen this already long ass debate and grow more and more off topic.

I will admit that he unfortunately changed Star Wars into an episode of Dragon Ball Z, but NJO made it even worse. Anyways, even though we may raise an eyebrow and call some of the feats described in his works as “ridiculous,” these are the feats we have to work with.

Hence why I get annoyed that when the CW series came out and the Jedi's abilities matched that of there NJO and KOTOR counterparts, it was seen as exaggerated and untrue...WTF? Its okay for KJA to apply ridicules feats with his characters to "one up" the movies, but when Gendy does it and it actually sorta makes sense its considered untrue?

To tell you the truth, I preferred his writing in BOTS to Karpyshyn’s in PoD. If I had to chose the SW writer I disliked the most, it’d probably be Stover. His “roadrunner” introductions and pointless philosophy doesn’t suit SW, IMHO.

Eh I still hate KJA, he has some of the worst dialog, can't handle character development for shit, and places his own characters above established ones, I bet if he could have snuck Exar into BOTS he'd piss on Bane.

The problem is, like I said before, we are picking possibilities not even hinted on. Remember Okkam’s Razor, the simplest option is most likely the right one. Here we have an option that was hinted on, had analogies made on, and is most likely the right one.

Not really we again are given NO time frame what so ever, your explanation is as good as mine we both use the analogies given, just we use a different time fram, I say slow you say fast, and it doesn't even say that he just up and moved the planet completely he was supposed to "nudge" it

nudge 1 (nj)
tr.v. nudged, nudge·ing, nudge·es
1. To push against gently.

Now tell me how much force energy does it take to gently move a small moon? Could Palpatine, Yoda, Exar, Revan, Anakin or Jacen duplicate it?

The thing with “Mandalorian iron and Cortosis” is that proof has been shown that that goes contrary to the view that they can withstand lightsaber blows. Only with such a proof we can we be assured that they are not exceptions. With Bane’s orbalisks though, there has been no mention or hint that they can be destroyed by continued lightsaber combat. Unless proof exists, why should we assume otherwise? Orbalisks are biological organisms, probably infused with darkside by how they live. They are far different from a non living mineral or ore.
Not to mention that Yuzzhang Vong armour was resistant to continuous lightsaber blows. Hell, Luke only killed Shimrra by slicing at his joints. Exceptions do exist.

We don’t know how the orbalisks restore. They could decompose burnt tissue proteins, and with the genetic information of the host they could replace destroyed organs unless the case of a severe trauma (ie., the lightsaber entering halfway through his head.) Lightning should severely cauterize cells, yet we see Luke, Yoda and Bastila surviving looking spick and spam.

Bad analogy, force lightning is not the same as regular lightning, this has been pretty much proven, its obviously nowhere near as hot as regular lightning.

There is no reason to suspect that he would perform worse because he is not “as familiar”. He uses the weapon; he would naturally be familiar with its strengths and weaknesses. The style was the rudimentary form of wielding sabers for generations upon generations. That was most likely the way he trained against fellow acoloytes.

Considering PoD makes no mention of him sparring with the students only Kas'im and wasn't comabt out flawed outside the dueling circle? Which he only entered 3 times.

He may have just discovered the technique at that moment of absolute necessity. We know he didn’t recognize his full power upon coming into contact with Revan’s holocron, so he was a relative newbie at that point, and probably didn’t have a comfortable grasp over his powers either. Notice that after the Seismic blast incident, he almost always reverted to the force to crush his opponents. For example, he didn’t even bother igniting a lightsaber against Qordis; he just ground his bones to dust.

Projecting the force in a wave or a choke is really quite instantaneous. Kreia didn’t even have to lift a finger. She just walked in and Kavar, Zez Kai, and Vrook were flung 10 feet away. Similarily, in the movie, Dooku flung Kenobi away in less than a second. Bane is stronger than Dooku, so the effect should be stronger and faster.

Um how do we know she didn't gather that energy before she you know...walked in...

I’d doubt that Anakin would be unable to withstand a massive seismic energy blast that shattered the Rakatan temple if he could not take a “force charged kick” from Dooku.

Accept it was unexpected, and he got right back up a second later and it only made him stronger.

Proof that he didn’t bother to put up a shield? Force shields were only noticed by PoD. Moreover, Ventress was tons weaker than Dooku, so it really isn’t saying much.

Because he simply runs through it and his clothes are torn off, shouldn't the shield protect that? At that point in time Ventress and Anakin were on the same level, I really don't see your point in regards to power compared to Dooku, that would be like dismissing Banes duel with Sirak and owning Qordis simply because there weaker then Kas'im.

Where was this? I’d imagine he’s “pincushioning” the effect, which is quite common among force users.

CW vol 2 chapter 5, and no its pure energy being admitted from a crystal, he attempts to slash at it with his saber but its reflected he them sticks his robotic hand in the force field and and starts getting electrocuted (Note: this crystal is powering an giant multi leveled factory the energy must have been tremendous) he uses the force to summon the crystal to him, pulls out and crushes the crystal, his hand explodes and the entire factory blows up.

Yes, he was battling Drallig and choking his apprentice but the said apprentice was a weakling. Drallig’s not bad, and I mentioned that he was rather good among the “lower levels.” I would be impressed if Anakin lifted him into the air, without a movement, and crushed his bones into dust. But the said feat that you are pointing to, any great Dark Lord of the past could do the same. I’d wager that Revan, Malak, Kun, or Dooku could replicate the feat if they had their lightsabers ignited. Revan could probably tear the two to pieces without even using his lightsaber.

See you want random displays of power to find something impressive, Anakin unlike Bane was in a temple full of Jedi and battling foes left and right, he didn't have the time to do some fancy power, when a slash to the gut would do the job all the same. Vader CAN crush foes with the force, he has suspended and crushed foes necks so hard their eyes bulge out. Hell he even crushes Jocasta Nu's defenses and force her to be impaled with his saber.

He definitely knows how to nullify the advantages brought forth by each form, like he was doing to Kas’im.

Yeah when coming from Kas'im and a DB saber. Anakin has moves from ALL forms of combat.

He has studied the sequences used per each form, so posseses an in depth understanding.

And Anakin hasn't?

Compound that with his orbalisks, and he is more than a match for Anakin.

Compounded with Anakins state of mind I don't see Bane winning.

Well he could have learned after that period, no?

No. Your purposing he learned ALL forms of combat in a matter of days.

In pure lightsaber combat, I’d hesitate to put him above Kas’im who spent decades on each lightsaber form. Close, probably stronger physically, but not in his knowledge base.

Why not its explicitly stated Anakin knows the most dangerous forms of all lightsaber styles as well as ALL other forms of combat, Anakins knowledge base > Kas'im.

Like I said, I never stated that Qordis was stronger than Dooku. As Nebaris posted previously, Qordis was able to destroy Bane’s ship, and send it plummeting towards the ground, which is definitely an impressive display of the force, considering Sith spirits were described as being pathetically weak. Yet Bane completely and utterly overwhelmed his defenses with a single projection of the force.

No it wasn't impressive, look above at my response to Nebaris.

No AC, BS would be assuming that he attained command of one of Kaan’s most prodigious academies without seeing any combat time whatsoever in a period of bloody war against the Jedi. BS would be assuming that he attained a rank of one of the most feared Sith Lords of the time without any demonstration or reason.

Now, let me make this clear he probably was strong for his time, but when comparing that to the Jedi and Sith of other times he's pathetic. Bane says it himself on multiple occasions that the Dark Side being spread so thin causes its users to become weaker, hence why he was so susceptible to the poison. The Dark Side was weak during that period unlike the PT period where it literally clouded the vision of the Jedi so much that they couldn't see a Sith Lord right in front of them.

They certainly were not talentless, just that they did not have as much exposure. Their combined wills channeled was described as enough to “kill a world.” Not to mention that they were capable of keeping a leash on Durge, the same guy that nearly caved in Anakin’s skull.

What are you talking about? Why would Durge kill his employers?