Re: Re: The Biggest Traitors in History!
Originally posted by guy222
judas
Judas wasn麓t a traitor, he did what he was expected and created to do seeing as God and his prophets predicted it in advance.
If he hadn麓t done what he did there wouldn麓t be Christianity.
Mind you seeing as Jesus was running around talking in open, it wasn麓t hard to find out who he was, so whats the point of it any way.
Re: Re: Re: The Biggest Traitors in History!
Originally posted by Bicnarok
Judas wasn麓t a traitor, he did what he was expected and created to do seeing as God and his prophets predicted it in advance.If he hadn麓t done what he did there wouldn麓t be Christianity.
Mind you seeing as Jesus was running around talking in open, it wasn麓t hard to find out who he was, so whats the point of it any way.
Exactly, he had no choice but to do so, according to Christian superstition, Jesus had to die for everyones' sins in order for humanity to be saved.
With that in mind, Judas would be the far greater martyr of the two. Jesus willingly died knowing he would come back and then go to Heaven. Judas willingly did what he did for all humanity, knowing he would burn in the lowest pit of hell for all eternity; that is the far greater sacrifice.
Christians should really worship Judas or at least include him in their daily prays.
Re: Re: Re: Re: The Biggest Traitors in History!
Originally posted by Robtard
Exactly, he had no choice but to do so, according to Christian superstition, Jesus had to die for everyones' sins in order for humanity to be saved.With that in mind, Judas would be the far greater martyr of the two. Jesus willingly died knowing he would come back and then go to Heaven. Judas willingly did what he did for all humanity, knowing he would burn in the lowest pit of hell for all eternity; that is the far greater sacrifice.
Christians should really worship Judas or at least include him in their daily prays.
Jesus didn't have to die on the cross for our sins. It just so happens that he forgave of us of all of our sins as he died on the cross. This is just what i believe. It is very possible that Calvinism is right and we are all born predestined for either Heaven or Hell but i feel that we all have a chance for salvation. Judas betrayed his Christ for many reasons. I have read the Bible three times and i've never read that he betrayed Christ to save humanity.
Originally posted by NonSensi-KlownExactly, a good, hard working man, that guy.
... he didn't. He didn't betray Christ thinking "I'm doing this for humanity..", He betrayed him thinking "I'm getting paid. **** Christ."
And, though not consciously, enabled that Jesus fellow to rid us of all our sins. Swell guy.
I also heard he grew hydroponic shit with Jesus' brother, Craig.
Originally posted by NonSensi-KlownThat's cause you are black...
I wouldn't necessarily count selling some dude out as hardworking, considering it's mostly just like... words and stuff. But then again, I think that undereducated factory workers should get paid more than CEO's. So... meh.
Silly idea about factory workers you have there, though.
Originally posted by Bardock42
That's cause you are black...Silly idea about factory workers you have there, though.
Meh. I just feel that if you're risking losing limbs and and possibly dying, and you work in an eviroment that is incredibly hazerdous... you should get paid a lot more then some fat ****er who sits around surfing Myspace a quarter of the time and chilling out in an AC'd meeting room for half the time, and writing a report or two the remaining quarter.