Forum Misconceptions

Started by The Libertine12 pages

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Actually both of them are right.

The problem lies in Marvel's egotism.

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Hmm, it can't be an Omiverse though even if they want to call it that as WD said. It's that simple. No scans required.

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Originally posted by The Libertine
Hmm, it can't be an Omiverse though even if they want to call it that as WD said.

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Yeah . . . thats what I just said.

Marvel has an Omniverse that is not really an omniverse. The term omniverse was used incorrectly by Marvel.

MrMaster is correct Marvel exists in what they call an Omniverse even though it isn't really the omniverse.

So the term Omniverse is correct when refering to all of Marvel even though Marvel is not using the correct definition.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Yeah . . . thats what I just said.

Marvel has an Omniverse that is not really an omniverse. The term omniverse was used incorrectly by Marvel.

MrMaster is correct Marvel exists in what they call an Omniverse even though it isn't really the omniverse.

So the term Omniverse is correct when refering to all of Marvel even though Marvel is not using the correct definition.

It's not correct though because as WD said it's not an Omniverse.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
See, I think you don't understand or just don't want to understand. Neither Marvel nor DC can claim they have an Omniverse is an absolute contradiction in itself. There cannot be two Ominverses because that's a total contradiction of the word. Both and others are part of one and not many Ominverses.

You welcome to post as many scans as you want. You still just accepting what Marvel is saying to you. What Marvel is saying is wrong...period. Again, an Omniverse implies all multiverses in one. If Marvel claims that they do have an Omniverse is nothing but pure lack of writting and facts.

I'm glad you said "Concerning their comic books, I have no choice." No one does...that doesn't mean you have to accept everything they tell you. You have your own logic which tells you they're either wrong or they don't know what they're doing. If you want to accept it then I have a bridge to sell you.

It's simple.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Again, you're taking what Marvel is saying. I'll repeat to you again..that Marvel isn't an authority on the theory of the Omniverse. Wiki on the other hand is implying a more accurate definition of the word. Which is why I continue to tell you that if you understand or not?

Marvel CAN claim anything they want. That doesn't mean they're right. To claim they have an Omniverse it's a blatant contraction.

Exactly! Right there where I quoted you on red is exactly the point. Logically there cannot be TWO Omniverses. Now, bare with me...if Marvel claims that there aren't two Omniverses and they fully understand the definition of the of the word. Then by all means they can't say they have it. Instead they're just part of ONE single Omniverse in all Comics. Which makes them a Multiverse.

For years DC Comics states that they have Multiverses not Ominverses. Because there isn't such a thing as Omniverses. Marvel on the hand is clearly stating that by having an Omniverse... implies they don't know what they're doing or writing or don't even know what an Omniverse means.

Because there isn't a DC Omniverse. There isn't a Marvel Omniverse. There isn't a Image Omniverse. Understand they're Multiverses of a single Omniverse.

I don't like the fact that Marvel is inproperly using the Theory of a Omniverse. That's what I don't like.

Hold on, I gave you Wiki as independent source. All you giving here is what Marvel says.

That is incredible bias. Do you have ANY other source outside of Marvel Comics that can prove your debate?

Don't take it....don't accept what I'm saying. But if you think you're right as far as what an Omniverse is...then you're wrong. Sorry, that's how it works. If you trully understand the definition of the word. You wouldn't be debating.

It's common sense WD, it's that easy! Marvel may call it an Omniverse but it's not!

Originally posted by The Libertine
It's not correct though because as WD said it's not an Omniverse.

It's common sense WD, it's that easy! Marvel may call it an Omniverse but it's not!

Let me put this in simple terms

FidelCastro's title was President

FidelCastro was a Dictator (ie not a president)

The proper thing to call FidelCastro was still President

Do you see how the concept applies to this argument?

Marvel calls itself an Omniverse

Marvel is not an omniverse

The proper thing to call Marvel is still an Omniverse

Because WrathfulDwarf is the expert on Marvel continuity.

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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Let me put this in simple terms

FidelCastro's title was President

FidelCastro was a Dictator (ie not a president)

The proper thing to call FidelCastro was still President

Do you see how the concept applies to this argument?

Marvel calls itself an Omniverse

Marvel is not an omniverse

The proper thing to call Marvel is still an Omniverse

The more proper way to describe Fidel Castro is to call him a "leader". See, simple definitions fit just well.

And as I already mention Marvel is just anotherMultiverse..there is no point in going back or repeating the same arguement.

It's common sense WD, it's that easy! Marvel may call it an Omniverse but it's not!

He is still using The Marvel Handbook. It's pointless to argue any further with him. It's just like when someone uses the Bible to explain how it all began and refutes any other arguement. He'll continue to thump us with the Marvel Handbook.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
And as I already mention Marvel is just anotherMultiverse..there is no point in going back or repeating the same arguement.

Actually Marvel has an Infinite Number of Multiverses and the sum of those Multiverses make up the Marvel Omniverse.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
He is still using The Marvel Handbook.

I see you're still using ...

what are you using?

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
It's pointless to argue any further with him. It's just like when someone uses the Bible to explain how it all began and refutes any other arguement.

Concerning the Bible?

Having the Bible on hand>>>>>Bibleless with pinions, speculations and theories.

That's how it applies to us here.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
He'll continue to thump us with the Marvel Handbook.

And you'll continue to thump us with ...

Still can't figure out your source of information that disputes what I posted concerning the Marvel cosmology.

Your argument is,

Marvel has no Omniverse cause I said so.

Proof?

No, I said so.

As you wish then.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
The more proper way to describe Fidel Castro is to call him a "leader". See, simple definitions fit just well.

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The title he took was President.

Marvel wants to call it an omniverse . . . why the hell do you want to argue the semantics of the name they chose?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
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The title he took was President.

Marvel wants to call it an omniverse . . . why the hell do you want to argue the semantics of the name they chose?

Which makes him a leader.

As for Marvel...I happen to disagree heavily. I'm sure you disagree in a lot of things. Hope you understand.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf

As for Marvel...I happen to disagree heavily. I'm sure you disagree in a lot of things. Hope you understand.

Yeah I get where you're coming from and I'm not willing to argue this ad infinitum.

We need a new misconception to occupy people.

The misconception that bricks can beat Doomsday. (Not counting Juggs....... 😉 )

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Yeah I get where you're coming from and I'm not willing to argue this ad infinitum.

We need a new misconception to occupy people.

😖hifty:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/441353_1-this-is-what-happens-when-you-grasp-at-straws

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
The misconception that bricks can beat Doomsday. (Not counting Juggs....... 😉 )
The misconception that Juggs can beat Doomsday 😬

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
The misconception that Juggs can beat Doomsday 😬

Juggernaut could take Doomsday. Juggs would fare much better than Hulk.

Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Juggernaut could take Doomsday. Juggs would fare much better than Hulk.

Hulk would get pwned.

And Juggs would lose, eventually.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Hulk would get pwned.

But so would Juggs.

Oh the uneducated youth.

Hunter/Prey Doomsday, yeah. He's a different beast entirely. DOS Doomsday, Doomsday Rex, OWAW Doomsday would lose.

Hard to gauge Hunter/Prey Doomsday, and why he was so much weaker in his appearance afterwards. Might have been writer wank.

Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Oh the uneducated youth.

Hunter/Prey Doomsday, yeah. He's a different beast entirely. DOS Doomsday, Doomsday Rex, OWAW Doomsday would lose.

Hard to gauge Hunter/Prey Doomsday, and why he was so much weaker in his appearance afterwards. Might have been writer wank.

You have a bad habit of attempting to patronize those who happen to disagree with your opinion. Don't. Just Don't. 😬

And, Juggs might win against a couple of those. But, you take DD's average vs. Juggs average (seeing as woth DD, theres hardly ever a standard level), and thats a firm loss for Juggernaut. Especially considering he isn't confirmed to be back to his 'classic power levels'.

How would Juggs beat doomsday....didn't he already die via physical?

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
You have a bad habit of attempting to patronize those who happen to disagree with your opinion. Don't. Just Don't. 😬

So, I can't comment on the fact that you're younger than me, Smurph?

Chill man.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
And, Juggs might win against a couple of those. But, you take DD's average vs. Juggs average (seeing as woth DD, theres hardly ever a standard level), and thats a firm loss for Juggernaut. Especially considering he isn't confirmed to be back to his 'classic power levels'.

I'm making reference to classic Juggs. Current would get f#@%stomped as far as I can tell.

Poor current Juggy. He'll be getting punked by Class 25-ers before long.. 🙁