THe LT vs. Micheal the Arc Angel

Started by bigbran62 pages

Originally posted by Board Walker
That is a perfect example of Abraxas which is a universal power
Multiversal...

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Look at it this way, Thanos was universal in the first place, him becoming omnipotent wouldent necesserly mean that he get access to the others.

I agree with this, that the HOTU made him a universe, and the omnipotence only made him aware of all the other universes (spheres) around him; not make him any more powerful, as shown on panel he just like all the other spheres, just aware.

Originally posted by Board Walker
I agree with this, that the HOTU made him a universe, and the omnipotence only made him aware of all the other universes (spheres) around him; not make him any more powerful, as shown on panel he just like all the other spheres, just aware.

Wait you misunderstood me.
He had the power, just not the intelligence to use it to it fullest.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Wait you misunderstood me.
He had the power, just not the intelligence to use it to it fullest.

Regardless of lack of intelligence, or only being allowed and extremely limited ammount of it, it was still only universal power.

Thanos Absorbs LT and Eternity/Infinity the Universe

Thanos ABSORBED ETERNITY and INFINITY and there is still Space and star stuff behind

When a Universe is ERASED or ABSORBED, it's ETERNITY that Disappears:

The Ultimate Nullifier ERASING a Universe:

Realize it's ETERNITY that's being ERASED.

And AGAIN, now a Multiverse is ERASED by the Ultimate Nullifier:

Realize it's ETERNITY that's being ERASED.

Here it continues,

(REMEMBER, NOW this is AFTER he ABSORBED, LT, Eternity & Infinity)

Watch, and Read

"For IF this BAND (the Living Tribunal, ETERNITY/INFINITY) Could Defy Me...might not OTHERS* be equally Foolish?"

"Could I ALLOW ANY to question my divine AUTHORITY?"

"NO....So I CONTINUED to Absorb ALL that MIGHT THREATEN my REIGN...Until....

"Nothing Remained"

See...He's absorbing MORE SPACE now, WHERE is this SPACE coming from if he already absorbed the embodiment of Space and Time?

Better yet, (AFTER absorbing the Living Tribunal and Eternity and Infinity)

WHO else COULD question his AUTHORITY?

WHO else can THREATEN his REIGN?

In this "Single Universe?" dontgetit

For those that will claim they were M-Bodys.

"For IF this BAND Could Defy Me...might not OTHERS be equally Foolish?"

"Could I ALLOW ANY to question my divine Authority?

"NO....So I CONTINUED to Absorb ALL that MIGHT Threaten my Reign...Until....

"Nothing Remained"

I'm also interested in WHY would Thanos call the SAME Eternity and Infinity (assuming that's the case) "OTHERS"?

"Others" by it's very definition means: "used to refer to a person or thing that is different or distinct from one already mentioned or known about"

Sure it might be "Another M-body" but it's STILL coming from the SAME Universal Entity Eternity.

And again (assuming that's the case) WHY would Eternity even consider to show up with ONE "M-body" if it's just a portion of his power or being?

When towards the end of issue #5 he was treated like a child's toy,

Why not just send 1000 M-bodys or Millions of "M-bodys", because Eternity MUST know, that his ONE M-body was a total Joke to Thanos.

And this quote from the top scan really calls my attention:

"For IF this BAND Could Defy Me ... might not OTHERS be equally Foolish?"

Especially, "might not OTHERS be equally Foolish?"

If Eternity/Infinity and the Living Tribunal, were already Foolish enough to attack Thanos,

WHY is Thanos referring to "OTHERS that might be equally Foolish"?

If they (Eternity/Infinity & LT) ALREADY were?

No, the Ultimate Nullifier just deleted Multi-Eternity, see the red glowing circle on his cheast.
It's was in that arc that Reed learned of Multi-Eternity.

Originally posted by Mr Master
For those that will claim they were M-Bodys.

"For IF this BAND Could Defy Me...might not OTHERS be equally Foolish?"

"Could I ALLOW ANY to question my divine Authority?

"NO....So I CONTINUED to Absorb ALL that MIGHT Threaten my Reign...Until....

"Nothing Remained"

I'm also interested in WHY would Thanos call the SAME Eternity and Infinity (assuming that's the case) "OTHERS"?

"Others" by it's very definition means: "used to refer to a person or thing that is different or distinct from one already mentioned or known about"

Sure it might be "Another M-body" but it's STILL coming from the SAME Universal Entity Eternity.

And again (assuming that's the case) WHY would Eternity even consider to show up with ONE "M-body" if it's just a portion of his power or being?

When towards the end of issue #5 he was treated like a child's toy,

Why not just send 1000 M-bodys or Millions of "M-bodys", because Eternity MUST know, that his ONE M-body was a total Joke to Thanos.

And this quote from the top scan really calls my attention:

"For IF this BAND Could Defy Me ... might not OTHERS be equally Foolish?"

Especially, [B]"might not OTHERS be equally Foolish?"

If Eternity/Infinity and the Living Tribunal, were already Foolish enough to attack Thanos,

WHY is Thanos referring to "OTHERS that might be equally Foolish"?

If they (Eternity/Infinity & LT) ALREADY were? [/B]

As of right its pure speculation, if it was a universe or a multiverse, I believe it was a universe.

Even if it was a multiverse, the point stands that LT was defeated by the power of a Universe/multiverse.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Even if it was a multiverse, the point stands that LT was defeated by the power of a Universe/multiverse.

😆

Boardwalk, I must admit I like your persistence.

One question, Mr M, Michael or LT?

Originally posted by Mr Master
😆

Boardwalk, I must admit I like your persistence.

What can I say, I learned it from you during your days of battling the Phoenix Force.

Originally posted by bigbran
How come no one believes me?

I JUST SAID THAT IT ONLY HAD DESTROYED ONE UNIVERSE!!!

Do I strike people as a liar or something?
I tell what I know, and try to say it without "teh twisting".

Anyway...

Thanos #1.

So, after about a couple months of saying it absorbed "teh everyting!", and speculating from the same book/issue from one sentence, we actually have "Teh" Thanos telling us what he done did.
If we don't believe Thanos about him absorbing the universe, then why should we believe him about God's power?

Thanos only absorbed ONE UNIVERSE! No more speculations from this scan:

How about we look at teh facts.

What did Warlock just say? "My unique status in THIS universe..."

And... of course, from teh End #6.

Just tired of teh lying, and twisting is all. Trying to alert people of what actually happened.

Thanos was duped by Living Tribunal's Boss. That simple

Originally posted by Board Walker
What can I say, I learned it from you during your days of battling the Phoenix Force.

What can we say, the Phoenix Force is overestimated everywhere except here.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
One question, Mr M, Michael or LT?

LT is the most powerful entity in Marvel

Only the TOAA is above LT

Whatever the hierarchy in DC is that's their problem.

Nothing short of the Presence can defeat LT.

Second to the Presence stalemates him.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
What can we say, the Phoenix Force is overestimated everywhere except here.

lol I was one of those who argued against Galactic Storm

Originally posted by Mr Master
LT is the most powerful entity in Marvel

Only the TOAA is above LT

Whatever the hierarchy in DC is that's their problem.

Nothing short of the Presence can defeat LT.

Second to the Presence stalemates him.


2nd, Spectre powers varies, at peak it's equal to the Presence.
It's like comparing Galactus to Eternity.

Originally posted by Mr Master
LT is the most powerful entity in Marvel

Only the TOAA is above LT

Whatever the hierarchy in DC is that's their problem.

Nothing short of the Presence can defeat LT.

Second to the Presence stalemates him.

That logic is Faulty. Just becuz universe x's 2nd to god is thus powerful does not make him equal to universe Y's 2nd to God. This does not compute and is not logical. Just becuz the bears 2nd best player is this great does not make him equal to indiana's 2nd best player.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Thanos Absorbs LT and Eternity/Infinity the Universe

Thanos ABSORBED ETERNITY and INFINITY and [B]there is still Space and star stuff behind

When a Universe is ERASED or ABSORBED, it's ETERNITY that Disappears:

The Ultimate Nullifier ERASING a Universe:

Realize it's ETERNITY that's being ERASED.

And AGAIN, now a Multiverse is ERASED by the Ultimate Nullifier:

Realize it's ETERNITY that's being ERASED.

Here it continues,

(REMEMBER, NOW this is AFTER he ABSORBED, LT, Eternity & Infinity)

Watch, and Read

"For IF this BAND (the Living Tribunal, ETERNITY/INFINITY) Could Defy Me...might not OTHERS* be equally Foolish?"

"Could I ALLOW ANY to question my divine AUTHORITY?"

"NO....So I CONTINUED to Absorb ALL that MIGHT THREATEN my REIGN...Until....

"Nothing Remained"

See...He's absorbing MORE SPACE now, WHERE is this SPACE coming from if he already absorbed the embodiment of Space and Time?

Better yet, (AFTER absorbing the Living Tribunal and Eternity and Infinity)

WHO else COULD question his AUTHORITY?

WHO else can THREATEN his REIGN?

In this "Single Universe?" dontgetit [/B]

Hope this answers your question.

There is no time and space. There is nothing. That is what nothing looks like, and the same thing would happen to a multiverse, or a universe, or an omniverse... except... we have several confirmations (two on the scan I just showed, way more other places... I can actually give you about five or more on-panel evidences of it being a universe) that it was indeed a universe.

Warlock was inside Atleza'a domain too when this ocurred. If Thanos had actually erased everything, then he would have ht Atleza's realm. Did Warlock get erased? Does this not answer your question?

Also, we have never been inside "nothing" really before. So how can you say it was more than a universe?

So, as it turns out, it was a universe... nothing more, nothing less. Just because nothing remained, doesn't mean squat... actually, it means just that:
NOTHING!

To teh questions:

God.

God.

If he just beat LT on-panel, then by all means, who else could threaten his reign?

Yes, single universe.

As it turns out, one of (if not) the most powerful beings in Marvel, was only universal... more proof that being multiversal means shit.

Originally posted by Mr Master
LT is the most powerful entity in Marvel

Only the TOAA is above LT

Whatever the hierarchy in DC is that's their problem.

Nothing short of the Presence can defeat LT.

Second to the Presence stalemates him.

I no longer go by this track of thought, what is second most powerful in one comic company is not equal neccisarily equal to the second most powerful of another company.

The key reason I dismiss LT below Michael, is the fact that he was defeated by the power of the extremely limited HOTU, which was nothing more then a universe or a multiverse.

Regardless of which, universe or multiverse, Michael is above both; both Michael Demigueros and Archhangel Michael.

For this key reason I rank Michael > LT

But I respect Mr. M and I respect his view that LT is only stalemated by the second most powerful of a company, or beaten by its supreme being, because I can follow his track of thinking and comparison.

Originally posted by bigbran
Hope this answers your question.

There is no time and space. There is nothing. That is what nothing looks like, and the same thing would happen to a multiverse, or a universe, or an omniverse... except... we have several confirmations (two on the scan I just showed, way more other places... I can actually give you about five or more on-panel evidences of it being a universe) that it was indeed a universe.

Warlock was inside Atleza'a domain too when this ocurred. If Thanos had actually erased everything, then he would have ht Atleza's realm. Did Warlock get erased? Does this not answer your question?

Also, we have never been inside "nothing" really before. So how can you say it was more than a universe?

So, as it turns out, it was a universe... nothing more, nothing less. Just because nothing remained, doesn't mean squat... actually, it means just that:
NOTHING!

To teh questions:

God.

God.

If he just beat LT on-panel, then by all means, who else could threaten his reign?

Yes, single universe.

As it turns out, one of (if not) the most powerful beings in Marvel, was only universal... more proof that being multiversal means shit.

I completely agree with everything said here

Strange, now a days we agree much more on views, yet in the past we were against one another almost always.