THe LT vs. Micheal the Arc Angel

On another note, often enough, comic battles don't follow typical "Vs. threads" regulations, which is why I find the regulations on these threads peculiar. What do they prove? Not much. We can go by probability, but comic fiction seems to thwart that from time to time on purpose (for example, Thanos with the HOTU defeating LT and Squirrel Girl defeating Thanos).

Are things predestined or is it all chaos? But don't both comic companies have a God as in the God in a traditional, monotheistic sense? Does that insinuate predestined events? Destiny thwarts probability.

Originally posted by Gamesmaster
On another note, often enough, comic battles don't follow typical "Vs. threads" regulations, which is why I find the regulations on these threads peculiar. What do they prove? Not much. We can go by probability, but comic fiction seems to thwart that from time to time on purpose (for example, Thanos with the HOTU defeating LT and Squirrel Girl defeating Thanos).

Are things predestined or is it all chaos? But don't both comic companies have a God as in the God in a traditional, monotheistic sense? Does that insinuate predestined events? Destiny thwarts probability.

KMC alreadly has a philosiphy forum . . .

Originally posted by Mr Master
*Totaly making BW look stupid* (No offence, but seriously anyone could see it)

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Gotta say Mr M is not someone you wan't to argue with ...
Since he's right 110% of all the times.

IF he were right all the time then his silly little theory about dc's multiverse would have panned out. he was dead WRONG.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
IF he were right all the time then his silly little theory about dc's multiverse would have panned out. he was dead WRONG.

LT wins.

Originally posted by guy222
LT wins.

IT's pretty much been established that The LT cannot beat Arc Angel Michael.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
IT's pretty much been established that The LT cannot beat Arc Angel Michael.

Ok. For u, Archangel wins. Fair. For me, LT easy win.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
IT's pretty much been established that The LT cannot beat Arc Angel Michael.

By who, you?

micheal demigourge and lucifer morningstar together are suppose to be equal to the presance thus above LT and if not then in the dreaming or sandman the spectre said that lucifer was above him and its been proven that spectre does not > michearl demigour or lucifer morgeningstar

Originally posted by Mider999
micheal demigourge and lucifer morningstar together are suppose to be equal to the presance thus above LT and if not then in the dreaming or sandman the spectre said that lucifer was above him and its been proven that spectre does not > michearl demigour or lucifer morgeningstar

Since when did Michael and Lucifer become equal to god? Do you have proof or scans of such a theory?

I have returned!

Thank you for the scans Mr. M, but yes I have seen those before, some thing I picked up from you, is I only go by what is on panel.

Now regardless of what characters say what, I go by what is shown, and what was shown is that Thanos was made into a multiverse and nothing more, and with this power of a multiverse he defeated LT.

I do not buy that LT only lost because TOAA deemed it so, its the same as when Galactic Storm was saying Phoenix only loses when TOAA or itself deems it so.

Now you shot him down when ever he tried to claim that Phoenix only loses when its higher power deemed it so, even when he provided scans showing so.

Now ironically, you are doing very similar to him with the LT being defeated by the HOTU.

The HOTU may have had the infinite power of all of TOAA, but what was shown on panel, is that Thanos only had the power of 1 multiverse from it and nothing more.

LT was defeated with the power of 1 multiverse, nothing else.

I go by what is shown on panel, no speculation.

Regardless of all the claim and praise for LT on panel, he was defeated with the power of 1 multiverse; it is the same as the promethian giants of DC being praised and claimed on panel as multiversal powers, yet they showed other wise.

So if we accept that LT is by what he is claimed to be rather then what he is shown to be by actions, then I suppose we are also excepting that Superman Blue has the power to defeat two multiversal power Promethian Giants?

Originally posted by Board Walker
Thank you for the scans Mr. M, but yes I have seen those before, some thing I picked up from you, is I only go by what is on panel.

That's cool.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Now regardless of what characters say what, I go by what is shown, and what was shown is that Thanos was made into a multiverse and nothing more, and with this power of a multiverse he defeated LT.

Then you're not going by what's On Panel,

cause On Panel Thanos clearly had the power of the "Supreme Being, of the "Almighty" ...

So again, if you've read the End, you would know that Thanos was MANIPULATED!!! by TOAA/GOD whatever.

Thanos was NOT allowed to go ape shit and erase the Omniverse.

The Fact that Thanos erased LT with such ease is the Feat.

LT, the Entity that Holds Megaverses in his Hand.

Originally posted by Board Walker
I do not buy that LT only lost because TOAA deemed it so, its the same as when Galactic Storm was saying Phoenix only loses when TOAA or itself deems it so.

You must have me mistaken,

I've always said LT lost to the HOTI because it was MORE powerful than him, NOT because Anyone deemed it so.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Now you shot him down when ever he tried to claim that Phoenix only loses when its higher power deemed it so, even when he provided scans showing so.

Now ironically, you are doing very similar to him with the LT being defeated by the HOTU.

Make sure you know what you're saying friend, before posting.

I'll take it as an honest mistake but I have NEVER dismissed a Feat that he has posted.

I'll challenge you to find this happening, but like I said I'm sure it was an honest mistake.

The scans I presented just goes to further show that even On Panel it was directly stated that the Almighty WANTED the Heroes to LOSE including LT.

Originally posted by Board Walker
The HOTU may have had the infinite power of all of TOAA, but what was shown on panel, is that Thanos only had the power of 1 multiverse from it and nothing more.

LT was defeated with the power of 1 multiverse, nothing else.

I go by what is shown on panel, no speculation.

What you're still not getting is that the Almighty only ALLOWED Thanos to take his power as far as he did.

It's Not speculation, it was stated On Panel by the characters that knew, namely Thanos and Warlock.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Regardless of all the claim and praise for LT on panel, he was defeated with the power of 1 multiverse; it is the same as the promethian giants of DC being praised and claimed on panel as multiversal powers, yet they showed other wise.

So if we accept that LT is by what he is claimed to be rather then what he is shown to be by actions, then I suppose we are also excepting that Superman Blue has the power to defeat two multiversal power Promethian Giants?

I don't know where you're going but LT was defeated by the most powerful being in the Omniverse, conceivably below TOAA/God.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
By who, you?

Michael is ABove a full powered spectre easily and can DESTROY the spectre out right if he wished to. Spectre full power is equal to the LT. Now run along.

Mr. M I appologize for saying you said "LT only lost because TOAA deemd it so", I did not know you acknowledged that LT lost because the HOTU>LT.

Now what I am arguing is that Thanos was only allowed the power of 1 multiverse from the HOTU, and with that extremely limited power he defeated the LT.

Thats my argument right there, that with the limited power of 1 multiverse he defeated the LT.

AoR + Excalibur could sunder the Omniverse

But there is no way they would be superior to the Heart.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Now regardless of what characters say what, I go by what is shown, and what was shown is that Thanos was made into a multiverse and nothing more, and with this power of a multiverse he defeated LT.

I JUST SAID THAT IT ONLY HAD DESTROYED ONE UNIVERSE!!!

Do I strike people as a liar or something?
I tell what I know, and try to say it without "teh twisting".

Anyway...

Thanos #1.

So, after about a couple months of saying it absorbed "teh everyting!", and speculating from the same book/issue from one sentence, we actually have "Teh" Thanos telling us what he done did.
If we don't believe Thanos about him absorbing the universe, then why should we believe him about God's power?

Thanos only absorbed ONE UNIVERSE! No more speculations from this scan:

How about we look at teh facts.

What did Warlock just say? "My unique status in THIS universe..."

And... of course, from teh End #6.

Just tired of teh lying, and twisting is all. Trying to alert people of what actually happened.

Now what I am arguing is that Thanos was only allowed the power of 1 multiverse from the HOTU, and with that extremely limited power he defeated the LT.

Thats my argument right there, that with the limited power of 1 multiverse he defeated the LT.

I'm with bigbran, it was stated a couple of times that it was just one universe, and none that they refered to the multiverse.

And you got it wrong, bw.

It's not necesserly:
Omniversal > Multiversal > Universal

Abraxas defeating Roma (the omniversal guardian for example)

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I'm with bigbran, it was stated a couple of times that it was just one universe, and none that they refered to the multiverse.

And you got it wrong, bw.

It's not necesserly:
Omniversal > Multiversal > Universal

Abraxas defeating Roma (the omniversal guardian for example)

This is exactly what I am trying to argue, that just because one is claimed as the Megaversal judge and guardian, it does not mean that being is more powerful then the megaverse, or the multiverse, or etc.

That is a perfect example of Abraxas which is a universal power, defeating Roma the Omniversal Guardian.

LT is the claimed Megaversal Judge, but he was defeated by the extreme limited power of the HOTU which showed on panel to be nothing more then a universe/multiverse (I am not sure)

Originally posted by Board Walker
This is exactly what I am trying to argue, that just because one is claimed as the Megaversal judge and guardian, it does not mean that being is more powerful then the megaverse, or the multiverse, or etc.

That is a perfect example of Abraxas which is a universal power, defeating Roma the Omniversal Guardian.

LT is the claimed Megaversal Judge, but he was defeated by the extreme limited power of the HOTU which showed on panel to be nothing more then a universe/multiverse (I am not sure)