Originally posted by Mr Master
Ahh whatever, I'm not going to waste anymore time on that, I know what the deal is,no need to try and change a dome that isn't going to budge.
For the Onlookers!
It's really irritating when you post opinions on matters you know nothing about.
You do realize He had the mind gem. He was super imposing his visualization and everyone else who knew about the ruse was playing along with him. He can't merge realities without the reality gem. He dind't have that ability. Post a scan of the magus Creating something with his Ig please. and then I'll think about changing my mind.
LT makes the Silver Surfer one with Everything!
"Would you like a moment of GODHOOD"
The Living Tribunal transforms Silver Surfer into a Universe
I can SEE him BECOMING...
Can you not SEE his structure changing...he's becoming translucent.
I can SEE him BECOMING...
His FORM is being manipulated...He's becoming LIGHT
I can SEE him BECOMING...
Silver Surfer exploding into a Universe
I can SEE him BECOMING... What does this look like to you?
Silver Surfer ACTUALLY EXPANDING into a UNIVERSE..or technically speaking,
CONNECTING to the INFINITE...
I can SEE he has BECOME...
Originally posted by Mr Master
LT makes the Silver Surfer one with Everything!"Would you like a moment of GODHOOD"
The Living Tribunal transforms Silver Surfer into a Universe
I can SEE him BECOMING...
Can you not SEE his structure changing...he's becoming translucent.
I can SEE him BECOMING...
His FORM is being manipulated...He's becoming LIGHT
I can SEE him BECOMING...
Silver Surfer exploding into a Universe
I can SEE him BECOMING... What does this look like to you?
Silver Surfer ACTUALLY EXPANDING into a UNIVERSE..or technically speaking,
CONNECTING to the INFINITE...I can SEE he has BECOME...
This is a great feat of Universal power on the LT's behalf.
Originally posted by Mr MasterThe Living Tribunal holding the embodiments of TWO Megaverses in one Hand.
Each Megaverse, is a COLLECTION of MULTIVERSES!!!
"he sits at the CENTER of ALL things, feeling the flow of countless Realities, their FATE irrevocably determined through the judgment rendered by HIS Three Faces"
"Two SIBLINGS whom the Tribunal has a place for in HIS great scheme of things""the Pulse of Creation reverberates through him, for he is its Heart, ALPHA & OMEGA revolve on the Wheel of Destiny, a Destiny SPUN by HIS mighty Hand"
"A Hand soon opening to allow TWO Brothers to assume their pre-destined Roles as Architects of New Realities ... and ONLY this Judge knows why"Nuff said.
Warlock destroys the hierarchy of representitives, except for LT ofcourse.
With a gesture LT STOPS the IG ATTACK and RECREATES the Abstratcs
That's all.
LT>>>>IG>>>I-IG>>>UN>>>Multiverse>>>>Universe
I agree.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What does that have to do with anything? Your treading very thin ice with ur attempt. your trying to say that the LT only loss becuz of God. Which doesn't sound right at all. That could almost be used for any character anywhere.
What ice did I break? I know Living Tribunal.
Originally posted by bigbran
Everytime Eternity was shown, he was a single universe.Multi-Eternity is the Multi-Verse.
There is no Marvel Universe in comics.
If it says universe, it is an universe. If it says multiverse, it is a multiverse. If it says omniverse, it is an omniverse.
It isn't that hard.
zOMG, unverse meenz univesre!
Who would have thought it?
"Universe"
Not teh multiverse, not teh omniverse, teh UN-I-VERSE!
All I am pointing out, is that, on-panel, it didn't absorb teh multiverse, it had only absorbed a universe.
Alright,
I figured I'd stick to this, cause the rest is just back and forth with us.
I researched this subject on the net, see if I can find Jim Starlin's take on his own Creation,
this is what I found.
www.newsarama.com/Marvel/THEEND
"A few months ago when veteran writer/artist Jim Starlin let it be known he was creating a new Marvel mini-series entitled The End of the Marvel Universe, most fans assumed it'd be his chapter in Marvel's series of "The End" projects, which are based on the creative conceit that they're the "last" stories told about Marvel's biggest icons set in the far-flung future.
Turns out they were only half right. Marvel Universe: The End (its official title), a six-issue monthly mini-series beginning this March with a double-sized first issue, is a part of "The End" series of books, but it does not take place in the far future. Starlin's story occurs during a time and place that will look real familiar to Marvel fans.
Starlin - who writes and pencils (with Al Milgrom on inks and Christie Scheele and Heroic Age on colors) - explained the series will feature "everyone in the Marvel Universe I can squeeze in", but focuses on the central characters Thanos and a newcomer named Akhenaten"
"Everyone dies at least once and a major change in the Marvel Universe happens at the end of the story," said Starlin, who hinted this change "involves Death" (with a capital 'D'😉.
What makes the project different from original expectations, however, is that it takes place in the contemporary Marvel Universe … well, sort of. Perhaps it would be better to say the identical twin sister of the contemporary 'continuity' Marvel Universe.
"By definition, a The End project stands outside of continuity," explained series' editor Tom Brevoort. "That said, Jim's story takes place in the here and now, rather than decades in the future as Hulk: The End did, so he's taking great pains to make it as up to date as he can."
"So much so Starlin is writing it as if it were an in-continuity story, even though it's really not. Or in other words, if you've always wanted to read about the current-day Marvel Universe coming to an end, this is your story. But you can still expect the Marvel Universe to be in business come September when this series winds up.
Just to be sure no one walks away confused, Brevoort explained some more…"
"It takes place out of continuity, but in a Marvel Universe that is as identical to the 'real' one to start with as we could make it, given the lead time. In other words, if this was the only project we were putting out in March, if we were really canceling the entire Marvel line, there wouldn't be any question as to when this story takes place. It happens now."
And as to that "change" to the Marvel Universe Starlin hinted at, Brevoort issued his trademark "wait & see" when asked for more detail, saying only that the series' scope is huge and any character a Marvel Universe fan would want to see will probably be in there somewhere.
So while Brevoort is on record promising this won't be the end of the Marvel Universe, with that persistent Marvel Universe vs. Ultimate Universe debate and 'Ultimatization' scuttlebutt, there may be some readers keeping a trained eye on this series"
Originally posted by Mr Master
Alright,I figured I'd stick to this, cause the rest is just back and forth with us.
I research this subject on the net, see if I can find Jim Starlin's take on his own Creation,
this is what I found.
www.newsarama.com/Marvel/THEEND
"A few months ago when veteran writer/artist Jim Starlin let it be known he was creating a new Marvel mini-series entitled The End of the Marvel Universe, most fans assumed it'd be his chapter in Marvel's series of "The End" projects, which are based on the creative conceit that they're the "last" stories told about Marvel's biggest icons set in the far-flung future.
Turns out they were only half right. Marvel Universe: The End (its official title), a six-issue monthly mini-series beginning this March with a double-sized first issue, is a part of "The End" series of books, but it does not take place in the far future. Starlin's story occurs during a time and place that will look real familiar to Marvel fans.
Starlin - who writes and pencils (with Al Milgrom on inks and Christie Scheele and Heroic Age on colors) - explained the series will feature "everyone in the Marvel Universe I can squeeze in", but focuses on the central characters Thanos and a newcomer named Akhenaten"
"Everyone dies at least once and a major change in the Marvel Universe happens at the end of the story," said Starlin, who hinted this change "involves Death" (with a capital 'D'😉.
What makes the project different from original expectations, however, is that it takes place in the contemporary Marvel Universe … well, sort of. Perhaps it would be better to say the identical twin sister of the contemporary 'continuity' Marvel Universe.
"By definition, a The End project stands outside of continuity," explained series' editor Tom Brevoort. "That said, Jim's story takes place in the here and now, rather than decades in the future as Hulk: The End did, so he's taking great pains to make it as up to date as he can."
"So much so Starlin is writing it as if it were an in-continuity story, even though it's really not. Or in other words, if you've always wanted to read about the current-day Marvel Universe coming to an end, this is your story. But you can still expect the Marvel Universe to be in business come September when this series winds up.
Just to be sure no one walks away confused, Brevoort explained some more…"
"It takes place out of continuity, but in a Marvel Universe that is as identical to the 'real' one to start with as we could make it, given the lead time. In other words, if this was the only project we were putting out in March, if we were really canceling the entire Marvel line, there wouldn't be any question as to when this story takes place. It happens now."
And as to that "change" to the Marvel Universe Starlin hinted at, Brevoort issued his trademark "wait & see" when asked for more detail, saying only that the series' scope is huge and any character a Marvel Universe fan would want to see will probably be in there somewhere.
So while Brevoort is on record promising this won't be the end of the Marvel Universe, with that persistent Marvel Universe vs. Ultimate Universe debate and 'Ultimatization' scuttlebutt, there may be some readers keeping a trained eye on this series.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
So there is no Heart at all and is useless in debate. And marvel does not have an equal power source or being to Michael theN? and then thanos didn't get an upgrade since there is no heart. The only thing is, the LT is always cannon. Even in what ifs. kind of confusing.
That's why I was telling you guys it was the Marvel Universe, as in all unto itself.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The only thing is, in that story other universes where shown and mentioned.
Fact of the matter is, those purple spheres have been confirmed as singular universes multiple times.
One I can easily recall, is when Doc Strange went out of the 616 universe because its begining to dip into oblivion.
He saw the limitless purple spheres which he stated on panel were universes.
Originally posted by Mr MasterI know this.
Alright,I figured I'd stick to this, cause the rest is just back and forth with us.
I researched this subject on the net, see if I can find Jim Starlin's take on his own Creation,
this is what I found.
www.newsarama.com/Marvel/THEEND
"A few months ago when veteran writer/artist Jim Starlin let it be known he was creating a new Marvel mini-series entitled The End of the Marvel Universe, most fans assumed it'd be his chapter in Marvel's series of "The End" projects, which are based on the creative conceit that they're the "last" stories told about Marvel's biggest icons set in the far-flung future.
Turns out they were only half right. Marvel Universe: The End (its official title), a six-issue monthly mini-series beginning this March with a double-sized first issue, is a part of "The End" series of books, but it does not take place in the far future. Starlin's story occurs during a time and place that will look real familiar to Marvel fans.
Starlin - who writes and pencils (with Al Milgrom on inks and Christie Scheele and Heroic Age on colors) - explained the series will feature "everyone in the Marvel Universe I can squeeze in", but focuses on the central characters Thanos and a newcomer named Akhenaten"
"Everyone dies at least once and a major change in the Marvel Universe happens at the end of the story," said Starlin, who hinted this change "involves Death" (with a capital 'D'😉.
What makes the project different from original expectations, however, is that it takes place in the contemporary Marvel Universe … well, sort of. Perhaps it would be better to say the identical twin sister of the contemporary 'continuity' Marvel Universe.
"By definition, a The End project stands outside of continuity," explained series' editor Tom Brevoort. "That said, Jim's story takes place in the here and now, rather than decades in the future as Hulk: The End did, so he's taking great pains to make it as up to date as he can."
"So much so Starlin is writing it as if it were an in-continuity story, even though it's really not. Or in other words, if you've always wanted to read about the current-day Marvel Universe coming to an end, this is your story. But you can still expect the Marvel Universe to be in business come September when this series winds up.
Just to be sure no one walks away confused, Brevoort explained some more…"
"It takes place out of continuity, but in a Marvel Universe that is as identical to the 'real' one to start with as we could make it, given the lead time. In other words, if this was the only project we were putting out in March, if we were really canceling the entire Marvel line, there wouldn't be any question as to when this story takes place. It happens now."
And as to that "change" to the Marvel Universe Starlin hinted at, Brevoort issued his trademark "wait & see" when asked for more detail, saying only that the series' scope is huge and any character a Marvel Universe fan would want to see will probably be in there somewhere.
So while Brevoort is on record promising this won't be the end of the Marvel Universe, with that persistent Marvel Universe vs. Ultimate Universe debate and 'Ultimatization' scuttlebutt, there may be some readers keeping a trained eye on this series"
What it seems though, is that it is canon to Thanos, LT, and Adam Warlock though.
You see, Thanos has recalled up events in his own series, and even said that "THIS UNIVERSE..." in his series.
Also, if Thanos's series is non-canon, then that also means that Annihilation is non-canon, and that any story following Annihlation's series is non-canon.
It all kind of... screws up, somewhere.
The most logical explanation, is that it happened to Thanos, LT, and Warlock... but even then, Thanos says that it happened in the universe he was in, in his series...
Also, that says that it only occurred in one universe...
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The only thing is, in that story other universes where shown and mentioned.
I'm starting to think Thanos absorbed all the balls, and I've been wrong all this time.
Otherwise you're right, it doesn't make sense.
Atleza anchors the 616 Reality, I don't doubt that anymore, but perhaps when Thanos said "so I continued to Absorb till nothing remained"
perhaps he meant all the balls.
And only the realms between Universes were left.
I'm speculating of course.
Perhaps when Thanos said,
"You & Gamora were Outside This Reality, tending Atleza, this Actuality's Cosmic Anchor"
Perhaps he meant "Outside this Reality" which also means "Outside" all Realities.
Since the Realm of the Cosmic Anchor is clearly Outside the Blue Ball.
In other words,
because Warlock was in Atleza's Realm, he was going to survive, because the Blue Balls make up Time & Space in the Omniverse, and Atleza's Purple Ball is Outside that:
And there are many Realms within the Omniverse where Time & Space are meaningless.
I'm still speculating,
but I like how it sounds.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Perhaps when Thanos said,
"You & Gamora were Outside This Reality, tending Atleza, this Actuality's Cosmic Anchor"erhaps he meant "Outside this Reality" which also means "Outside" all Realities.
Since the Realm of the Cosmic Anchor is clearly Outside the Blue Ball.
In other words,
because Warlock was in Atleza's Realm, he was going to survive, because the Blue Balls make up Time & Space in the Omniverse, and Atleza's Purple Ball is Outside that:
And there are many Realms within the Omniverse where Time & Space are meaningless.
I'm still speculating,
but I like how it sounds.
MM i gotta say now i like your posts..maybe its what im smokin now lol 😄 but you have a good point here, i never thought of it that way before.
