Have you ever felt oppressed b/c of your opinion? · General Discussion Forum

Oncewhite Restricted

Have you ever felt oppressed b/c of your opinion?

Do you think that only happens in communitist countries?

Do you think that what you write online has any effect on your personal life (if you know others around you come to the same message board that you comment on)?

Do you think it's right to oppress someone b/c of their ideas, if their perspective is different then the norm?

So, if you were in a communist country, and wrote things online that were different from the norm, do you feel that your phone would be tapped or other issues? Do you think that kind of stuff could happen in the US?

If you don't answer any of these questions, (simply because it doesn't apply or you don't have an opinion) what do you think the true meaning of FREEDOM of speech or Liberity is?

lil bitchiness -

Actually, opression because of opinion is far more common in western Capitalist countries than you would think.

I sometimes feel opressed because of my opinions, particulary on the ideas I have in regards to consumerist society of the West, because of political correctness, because of all around stupidity.

Most of the times, I don't feel opressed, but enraged.

Strangelove Misunderstood Genius

Not really. I don't really have any crazy, oppressable opinions

Badabing Gym rat

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Actually, opression because of opinion is far more common in western Capitalist countries than you would think.
I sometimes feel opressed because of my opinions, particulary on the ideas I have in regards to consumerist society of the West, because of political correctness, because of all around stupidity.
Most of the times, I don't feel opressed, but enraged.

Good call. Political Correctness reminds me of "New Speak" from Orwell's 1984.

Other instances of oppression and retaliation is when folks who don't support Illegal Immigration, Gay Marriage, Gun Control and Green Energy are labeled Anti-Latino, Homophobic, Anti-American and Tree Huggers. I feel it's ridiculous to label people just for an opposing viewpoint as long as the viewpoint is backed by rationale and facts and not dictated by prejudice.

Kinneary Ex scientia tridens

Define oppression in regards to this topic.

lil bitchiness -

Originally posted by Badabing
Good call. Political Correctness reminds me of "New Speak" from Orwell's 1984.
Other instances of oppression and retaliation is when folks who don't support Illegal Immigration, Gay Marriage, Gun Control and Green Energy are labeled Anti-Latino, Homophobic, Anti-American and Tree Huggers. I feel it's ridiculous to label people just for an opposing viewpoint as long as the viewpoint is backed by rationale and facts and not dictated by prejudice.

I absolutely concur.

As I stated before, people seem to love to seek approval by trumpeting ''safe truths'' for which they know no consequence will befall them.

debbiejo Dreamer

Yep, spineless. How can anyone make a difference if they can't put their word on the line.

Marxman Resident Communist

Oppression for liberal/"different" ideas is hardly something that is unique to communist countries. In a "free" country you may not be oppressed directly by the government but you can certainly be socially oppressed. Your peers look at you differently when you say you support communism. You're labeled a sinner and a murderer if you are Pro-Choice. You're destroying the sanctity of marriage if you support gay marriage. You're a religious fanatic who is attempting to impose your beliefs on the masses if you fight against abortion and gay marriage. Oppression comes in different forms and they come from all sides.

debbiejo Dreamer

Oppressive views come from weak minded sheep.

Kinneary Ex scientia tridens

You're the one who said you wanted to leave your hometown (or hte country, I don't remember) because it was full of idiots. Wouldn't that make you a weak minded sheep as well?

Like I said, oppression really needs to be defined for this topic. Stereotyped is maybe a better word to use. I don't think anyone here has been truly oppressed because of their beliefs.

debbiejo Dreamer

Not because of idiots. Because of no jobs here. Michigans economy is at the bottom of the 50 states.

Bardock42 Junior Member

Originally posted by Badabing
Good call. Political Correctness reminds me of "New Speak" from Orwell's 1984.
Other instances of oppression and retaliation is when folks who don't support Illegal Immigration, Gay Marriage, Gun Control and Green Energy are labeled Anti-Latino, Homophobic, Anti-American and Tree Huggers. I feel it's ridiculous to label people just for an opposing viewpoint as long as the viewpoint is backed by rationale and facts and not dictated by prejudice.

I agree on the political correctness part.

The terms and labels for people though are not oppression, but (maybe unfair) debating methods. It has nothing to do with oppression. Nor do western countries oppress...the societies on the other hand might demand ridiculous behaviour.

What do you count as oppression though? Is denying gay marriage oppression of homosexuals? Is voting against making abortion illegal oppression of pro-life people?
We live in cultures with multiple ideas and values, in some case there have to be decisions to be made. I don't think it is necessarily oppression just because your thoughts are not supported or put into action. They have to be denied...forcibly...preferably by a government.

doan_m Senior Member

hmm.... oppressed? Never, whenever somebody tries to "oppress" my opinion i tend to lash back like a bat out of hell. It's for that reason most people are afraid to debate with me.

Capt_Fantastic Restricted

What tis thread and many of the posts in it fail to consider is that some ideas and perspective are just wrong. That's all there is to it. Some people are just wrong.

What really needs to change is the political effects of some issues. If someone wants to pretend to be noble for expressing his or her opinion, maybe they should think about why they're expressing it in the first place, rather than just saying it to feel like their opinion is valid.

Badabing Gym rat

Originally posted by Bardock42
I agree on the political correctness part.
The terms and labels for people though are not oppression, but (maybe unfair) debating methods. It has nothing to do with oppression. Nor do western countries oppress...the societies on the other hand might demand ridiculous behaviour.
What do you count as oppression though? Is denying gay marriage oppression of homosexuals? Is voting against making abortion illegal oppression of pro-life people?
We live in cultures with multiple ideas and values, in some case there have to be decisions to be made. I don't think it is necessarily oppression just because your thoughts are not supported or put into action. They have to be denied...forcibly...preferably by a government.

I wasn't thinking that people are literally oppressed and they've lost their rights. I meant that smearing somebody's name, labeling or any other form degradation for a differing opinion is a form of oppression.

botankus Bass-ackwards

Originally posted by doan_m
hmm.... oppressed? Never, whenever somebody tries to "oppress" my opinion i tend to lash back like a bat out of hell. It's for that reason most people are afraid to debate with me.

You need to search for a KMC member named Alpha Centauri. Strike up a debate with him when you find him. It could be on anything, even if one of you believes the sky is pink and the other thinks it's green. Let me know how it goes.

Regret One Among Many

Re: Have you ever felt oppressed b/c of your opinion?

Originally posted by Oncewhite
Do you think it's right to oppress someone b/c of their ideas, if their perspective is different then the norm?

This occurs in all aspects of life. It is easily compared to evolution, stupid ideas die off while better fit ideas survive. It should happen, but not always in the manner it occurs. There are proper ways that suppress stupidity, but there are also improper ways. An example of a proper method of suppressing stupidity is the closing of stupid threads in the forum.

Lord Urizen Perfection

Originally posted by Badabing
Good call. Political Correctness reminds me of "New Speak" from Orwell's 1984.
Other instances of oppression and retaliation is when folks who don't support Illegal Immigration, Gay Marriage, Gun Control and Green Energy are labeled Anti-Latino, Homophobic, Anti-American and Tree Huggers. I feel it's ridiculous to label people just for an opposing viewpoint as long as the viewpoint is backed by rationale and facts and not dictated by prejudice.

I find it hilarious that you are pulling this card.

Your aims at keeping Conservatism in this nation indirectly lead to the oppression of several people (ex: your ideals against Gay Marriage and ideals of Immigration policy), yet you are crying that you are oppressed for your opinions...

😬

Lord Urizen Perfection

Originally posted by Badabing
I wasn't thinking that people are literally oppressed and they've lost their rights. I meant that smearing somebody's name, labeling or any other form degradation for a differing opinion is a form of oppression.

Someone labelling you a homophobe, racist, or or what-not is no where as oppressive as denying a Gay couple the right to marriage, or denying an immigrant freedom.

Please re-evaluate where you are coming from, and why you think what you do, before you make statements like this. Thanks.

Badabing Gym rat

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I find it hilarious that you are pulling this card.
Your aims at keeping Conservatism in this nation indirectly lead to the oppression of several people (ex: your ideals against Gay Marriage and ideals of Immigration policy), yet you are crying that you are oppressed for your opinions...
😬

I also used gun control and green energy. Where did I state my views on any of the examples? Oh, I didn't. What's your point? Your point is to skew posts in order to advance your agenda. I used examples of the left and right using labeling and smearing. It's not cool to take a post and try to skew it just to justify your position and point of view. I never said my opinions were oppressed. Please read my post again because I did not stir controversy. Once again, you've proved how closed minded you are. That's the no spin truth.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Someone labelling you a homophobe, racist, or or what-not is no where as oppressive as denying a Gay couple the right to marriage, or denying an immigrant freedom.
Please re-evaluate where you are coming from, and why you think what you do, before you make statements like this. Thanks.

Once again, I never stated my opinion but just used 4 well known examples that are from the Left and Right. You've shown how closed minded you are by labeling me a Conservative. Thanks for proving my points. 😉

My original post.

Originally posted by Badabing
Good call. Political Correctness reminds me of "New Speak" from Orwell's 1984.
Other instances of oppression and retaliation is when folks who don't support Illegal Immigration, Gay Marriage, Gun Control and Green Energy are labeled Anti-Latino, Homophobic, Anti-American and Tree Huggers. I feel it's ridiculous to label people just for an opposing viewpoint as long as the viewpoint is backed by rationale and facts and not dictated by prejudice.

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