Have you ever felt oppressed b/c of your opinion?

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Actually, opression because of opinion is far more common in western Capitalist countries than you would think.

I sometimes feel opressed because of my opinions, particulary on the ideas I have in regards to consumerist society of the West, because of political correctness, because of all around stupidity.

Most of the times, I don't feel opressed, but enraged.

uhm, are you of the New Age philosophy and concerned with the planet and trees? (i'm not mocking you or New Age at all, some of it makes complete sense to me)

are you concerned with the lack of recycling of goods or just the idea of overconsumption (as some religions teach moderation in every thing, no exess in spending or pleasure, etc).

Originally posted by Kinneary
Define oppression in regards to this topic.

Oppression is a subjective emotion. For clarity, however, I would broadly define "oppression" as the feeling of an unfair action, an abuse of power that results in the person or group unable to exact a fair or balanced voice without fear of being silenced (this could be from an abusive parent, spouse, coworker, neighbor, etc., it's not strictly related to a gov't authority, although one may consider disciplinarian parent as an authoritative gov't in their own home).

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I absolutely concur.

As I stated before, people seem to love to seek approval by trumpeting ''safe truths'' for which they know no consequence will befall them.

that's called playing politics, for some, it's a good diplomatic character, for others, it's a flaw, really depends on how far they go.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
What tis thread and many of the posts in it fail to consider is that some ideas and perspective are just wrong. That's all there is to it. Some people are just wrong.

What really needs to change is the political effects of some issues. If someone wants to pretend to be noble for expressing his or her opinion, maybe they should think about why they're expressing it in the first place, rather than just saying it to feel like their opinion is valid.

Enjoy stinging the ego? (Ouch)

I agree with you, sometimes, we should reflect more about our own intentions, rather then enjoy the chiming of our own thoughts and voice, tough thing to do though, but not impossible.

We still need a Republic, b/c we are too skewed in special interest to be a real democracy, someone else will feel things are unfair, esp. anyone who is minority or a small population/representation of the group that didn't have their say, or feel as if their say is being ignored.

Originally posted by Badabing
I wasn't thinking that people are literally oppressed and they've lost their rights. I meant that smearing somebody's name, labeling or any other form degradation for a differing opinion is a form of oppression.

I don't think so.

To call someone, scum, ******* or whatever is not oppressing them. You do not take their rights away, you just make your own opinion on them public.

Originally posted by botankus
You need to search for a KMC member named Alpha Centauri. Strike up a debate with him when you find him. It could be on anything, even if one of you believes the sky is pink and the other thinks it's green. Let me know how it goes.

Originally posted by Badabing
Good call. Political Correctness reminds me of "New Speak" from Orwell's 1984.

Other instances of oppression and retaliation is when folks who don't support Illegal Immigration, Gay Marriage, Gun Control and Green Energy are labeled Anti-Latino, Homophobic, Anti-American and Tree Huggers. I feel it's ridiculous to label people just for an opposing viewpoint as long as the viewpoint is backed by rationale and facts and not dictated by prejudice.

Uhm, so what you are stating is that the concept of "duality" inherently triggers oppression when one side "wins" over the other? Duality is an important philosophical, mathematical, political, entertainment and religious concept in most of the world.

So, once there is duality, the losing side may end up feeling oppressed?

The word oppression is such a horrible, horrible word to use for this topic.

Stereotyped is much closer to what the subject of this thread is about.

Originally posted by Kinneary
The word oppression is such a horrible, horrible word to use for this topic.

Stereotyped is much closer to what the subject of this thread is about.

perhaps share with us a more accurate definition of oppression? i don't want to sound spoiled, as if we are in such comforts we have no clue, etc. for instance, i have heard people talk about how Americans do not have a clue about poverty, our form of poverty is like cake walk compared to other countries. with that frame of thought, i don't want to sound as if we are living high and mighty that we don't know what "oppression" would feel like in the act of asking the question (what do you define as oppression?) i mean, Japanese are living pretty good, but maybe you have a different perspective that we can learn from..or at least, "i" can learn from...🙂

Oncewhite, this is a very interesting topic. 😎

Originally posted by Badabing
Oncewhite, this is a very interesting topic. 😎

wait, is this coming from the "Mr. O'Reilly" himself? 😱

"Help, help! I'm being (re)oppressed!" - Peasant 'Monty Python and The Holy Grail'

Originally posted by Robtard
"Help, help! I'm being oppressed!" - Peasant 'Monty Python and The Holy Grail'

i don't know if inanimate objects could feel oppressed, but if so, i would guess that the thong on that pic of yours is being relieved of oppression.. 🙂

Originally posted by Oncewhite
i don't know if inanimate objects could feel oppressed, but if so, i would guess that the thong on that pic of yours is being relieved of oppression..

That is one type of oppression I'd gladly endure.

Originally posted by Robtard
That is one type of oppression I'd gladly endure.

okaaay 😄

Originally posted by Oncewhite
wait, is this coming from the "Mr. O'Reilly" himself? 😱

Originally posted by Badabing
No spin here! 😆

🙂 I was wondering when you were going to say that.

Originally posted by Oncewhite
perhaps share with us a more accurate definition of oppression? i don't want to sound spoiled, as if we are in such comforts we have no clue, etc. for instance, i have heard people talk about how Americans do not have a clue about poverty, our form of poverty is like cake walk compared to other countries. with that frame of thought, i don't want to sound as if we are living high and mighty that we don't know what "oppression" would feel like in the act of asking the question (what do you define as oppression?) i mean, Japanese are living pretty good, but maybe you have a different perspective that we can learn from..or at least, "i" can learn from...🙂

Oppression is when a government or heirarchy makes cruel or tortourous restrictions on human rights. Unless you've ever been beaten, threatened (seriously threatened), or intimidated (felt the actual threat of bodily harm), then you have not been oppressed.

Originally posted by Kinneary
I'm not Japanese. I just live here.

Oppression is when a government or heirarchy makes cruel or tortourous restrictions on human rights. Unless you've ever been beaten, threatened (seriously threatened), or intimidated (felt the actual threat of bodily harm), then you have not been oppressed.

yeah, when I was in Brooklyn from ages 7-10 i was beaten (not that badly, as I would defend myself but I was very skinny so that was something that made them think I was an easy target), threatened, intimidated, even had females barge into my bathroom stall (totally tacky) some would go to the next one and stand on the stall and peep on the other side and just stand there...so, yeah, it may not have been a "government" but it was a group of people who felt that these tactics were important for some reason, all it did was teach me to stay away.

And why would they do that? If it was just kids being kids, then that's bullying, not oppression.

laughing Kinda, i once got sent to the principals office due to my opinion that nuns are called that cause they get "nun".

Originally posted by Kinneary
And why would they do that? If it was just kids being kids, then that's bullying, not oppression.

i dont see the difference? if i couldn't walk home going the same direction every day, in concern that some silly kids would stalk me on my way home and do something stupid...that's bothersome...bully tactics are oppressive...