Have you ever felt oppressed b/c of your opinion?

Originally posted by Oncewhite
uhm, are you of the New Age philosophy and concerned with the planet and trees? (i'm not mocking you or New Age at all, some of it makes complete sense to me)

are you concerned with the lack of recycling of goods or just the idea of overconsumption (as some religions teach moderation in every thing, no exess in spending or pleasure, etc).

No. I am concerned about the world peace, and the immense amount of ignorance, especially since he great majority of people in the most powerful country in the world do not know basic history about majority of the countries they are fighting with/for.

I am concerned about how you watch TV, and all you hope to see are ''reality'' TVs where peopleget humiliated or hurt. (not you personally, but you colectivelly)

This is the consumarism of violence and humiliation, and boy, is West eaing it up.
i am concerned about ''buy this, i will make your life better'' shite.

At the same time, I am concerend about the political correctness - making people say something in a different way will not make them less racist - in fact it will give them a tool to be racist and biggoted as much as they wish, but through flowery language.

I am freaked out at the exportation of those ideas around the world through the all known Western consumerism. It is infectious and parasite like.

Not that existing communism has an answer, but I am just stating.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I am concerned about how you watch TV, and all you hope to see are ''reality'' TVs where peopleget humiliated or hurt. (not you personally, but you colectivelly)

This is a very disturbing part of our culture at the moment especially how folks do like to see so many people get hurt or "fail."

This is the consumarism of violence and humiliation, and boy, is West eaing it up.
i am concerned about ''buy this, i will make your life better'' shite.

I agree, it's very apparent that people live beyond their means and go deep into the "credit world" to have these items, especially in USA (it's my only reference point for my opinion.)

Lil, you aren't just a communist bastard! Very well said, now only if folks in the USA would get some of this message.

if an opinion can remain valid even if its based on evidence which is false, how is it that it should be respected? i see alot of people with 'opinions' based on nothing but lies, propaganda, heresay, and nothing at all factual. i respect views based on fact and a genuine pursuit of truth, not a person's primal ability to choose one side or another and chant/bleat their side till they are blue in the face.

to people whom i refer: your opinion is shit and you are shit

see the conundrum there? thats right. you must respect my opinion that you are shit, or you're a hypocrite. and im not saying that you're shitty, but that your body and mind are actually composed of fecal matter. this is my opinion and damn anyone for trying to oppress me.

point: opinions in themselves are worth precicesly dick and i will not respect a single one which is based on nothing genuine, factual and/or tangible.

Originally posted by PVS
if an opinion can remain valid even if its based on evidence which is false, how is it that it should be respected? i see alot of people with 'opinions' based on nothing but lies, propaganda, heresay, and nothing at all factual. i respect views based on fact and a genuine pursuit of truth, not a person's primal ability to choose one side or another and chant/bleat their side till they are blue in the face.

to people whom i refer: your opinion is shit and you are shit

see the conundrum there? thats right. you must respect my opinion that you are shit, or you're a hypocrite. and im not saying that you're shitty, but that your body and mind are actually composed of fecal matter. this is my opinion and damn anyone for trying to oppress me.

point: opinions in themselves are worth precicesly dick and i will not respect a single one which is based on nothing genuine, factual and/or tangible.

Which then includes youself, as your opinion of other people who are ''shit'' is based on nothing factual, but your own opinion.

Furthermore, while we are at it, please do not use language like that again.

How do you know his opinion isn't based on anything factual? He might not have any way to prove they are shit, he obviously has a way to prove why he believes so. So what you SHOULD have said is that his opinion of people being shit cannot be proven, his reasons for holding said opinion, can be. If someone said "I think you're shit, I have no genuine reason why.", then fine.

I know for a fact that if you asked PVS to prove WHY he thinks they are shit, not that they are undeniably shit, then he would.

The base level is respecting that everyone has the right to an opinion, it stops there. Nobody need accept what that opinion is, and if PVS isn't going to respect an opinion based on anything other than honesty, proven fact or anything tangible, that's up to him.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
and if PVS isn't going to respect an opinion based on anything other than honesty, proven fact or anything tangible, that's up to him.

-AC

more like this: i do not by default respect someone opinion. like, someone comes up and says "i think blacks are subhuman" and im supposed to respect that. well...no i wont.

and milla, if you missed that point, then fine, we all miss points. but are you really coming down on me for saying "shit"?

Originally posted by PVS
more like this: i do not by default respect someone opinion. like, someone comes up and says "i think blacks are subhuman" and im supposed to respect that. well...no i wont.

Precisely. I respect the persons right to believe that, I don't respect the belief or the opinion itself, just the right to have it.

Originally posted by PVS
and milla, if you missed that point, then fine, we all miss points. but are you really coming down on me for saying "shit"?

I seriously doubt she's doing that, in her defense. Just because it would be a new level of hypocricy.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Precisely. I respect the persons right to believe that, I don't respect the belief or the opinion itself, just the right to have it.

there is an infinately fat line between respecting one's right to an opinion and simply respecting any and all opinions.

It's usually people with shit opinions that confuse the two, but of course, they'd never admit that.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It's usually people with shit opinions that confuse the two, but of course, they'd never admit that.

-AC

also what bothers me is the lack of willingness of certain people to allow scrutiny of their opinion. for example religious types who lean on scripture. any challenge on the validity of said scripture is instantly called "religious persecution".

so the idea is that their opinion is right because its based on something holy, and to question its holiness is an insult/desecration/etc.

Originally posted by PVS
more like this: i do not by default respect someone opinion. like, someone comes up and says "i think blacks are subhuman" and im supposed to respect that. well...no i wont.

and milla, if you missed that point, then fine, we all miss points. but are you really coming down on me for saying "shit"?

No.I am not coming down at you at all. I am just saying the way you put the sentance together was unecessary. There are other ways to put your point across then saying
''and im not saying that you're shitty, but that your body and mind are actually composed of fecal matter''.

Funny that people (Her) speak out against oppression and political correctness, only to suggest things be worded in ways that they like.

You've gotta laugh, really.

-AC

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
No.I am not coming down at you at all. I am just saying the way you put the sentance together was unecessary. There are other ways to put your point across then saying
''and im not saying that you're shitty, but that your body and mind are actually composed of fecal matter''.

its satire. the presenting of a ridiculous opinion that is based on nothing worth consideration which by the logic of someone who says "all opinions must be respected", must be respected.

also it is not aimed at anyone in particular. if personal offense is taken by anyone i fail to see how thats not exclusively their problem as opposed to mine.

Originally posted by PVS
its satire. the presenting of a ridiculous opinion that is based on nothing worth consideration which by the logic of someone who says "all opinions must be respected", must be respected.

also it is not aimed at anyone in particular. if personal offense is taken by anyone i fail to see how thats not exclusively their problem as opposed to mine.

I don't recall mentioning anything about personal offences.

I am talking about the unnecessary language you used, and asking you not to use it again. There ARE ways in which satire can be expressed intelligently without using words you did ad in the matter you did, so I am asking you to utilise such way of getting your point across.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Funny that people (Her) speak out against oppression and political correctness, only to suggest things be worded in ways that they like.

You've gotta laugh, really.

-AC

I will ask you only once not to write provoking comments.

Second, this is a board which is PG-13 and has rules which are put in place by the administrator, and which are to be enforced.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I don't recall mentioning anything about personal offences.

I am talking about the unnecessary language you used, and asking you not to use it again. There ARE ways in which satire can be expressed intelligently without using words you did ad in the matter you did, so I am asking you to utilise such way of getting your point across.

It's actually gone past the point of me wanting a sensible reply, I just hope somebody sees how far off the deep end of abusing your powers you've actually gone.

"Don't type like that, I don't like it.".

Actually ridiculous.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I will ask you only once not to write provoking comments.

Second, this is a board which is PG-13 and has rules which are put in place by the administrator, and which are to be enforced.

When? When you're on the back foot in a debate? Cos that's when you always become Mod Milla. Not replying to me, fine, I can handle it, but you're actually taking it out of hand now, and I seriously doubt any mod here would consider your actions justifiable.

-AC

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I don't recall mentioning anything about personal offences.

i dont recall implying that you took personal offense.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I am talking about the unnecessary language you used, and asking you not to use it again. There ARE ways in which satire can be expressed intelligently without using words you did ad in the matter you did, so I am asking you to utilise such way of getting your point across.

so i should make my words more...flowery?

Last warning Alpha Centauri, get back on topic, or if you have issue with me, take it to PM.

Edit - same to PVS, if you have an issue with me, take it to PMs.

You've got more issues than I could ever give you.

I think PVS is right.

Many people do have opinions composed of shit, fecal matter, turd, that brown stuff (Pick your word) whatever you want to call it. They do not, nor does anybody, deserve default opinion respect.

-AC

Never thought I'd come to his defense, but it seems that AC ended up a victim of the very opression that the thread spoke about.

And he didn't even use cursing.

He merely stated his right to have an opinion on others opinions. And if his opinion is that another person's opinion is bullcrap, it's America.... he can say so.

Bad Form 'lil B. 👇