If you had to describe a song/band..."This" meets "That"

I'm trying to write but I'm laughing too hard. I'm not gonna get into a long argument with someone who clearly has no idea what's goin' on...

You're getting (embarrassingly) worked up...and it's simply because you don't seem to have a very seasoned pop music knowledge. My thread wasn't "Describe EXACTLY what a band sounds like" ...it's an idea I threw out for fun.

My Shakti comparison was fun and accurate at the same time...and every single one of my comparisons have been the same. You not seeming to think so is demonstrating that:

a) you're not really with it, and...

b) you're being quite prudish.

I wasn't trying to pick a fight.

I don't know who Death blow is and what he said.

All I do know is what's goin' on in the world of music and how to tellingly sum it up in a few words or less...if you can't get on board with that...your loss.

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Eh, no; they are three great songs by a great band.

Also, it is only you who is being embarrassing (yet again!), and not even in an amusing manner. Please do something about that, please...

Originally posted by EPIIIBITES

You're getting (embarrassingly) worked up...and it's simply because you don't seem to have a very seasoned pop music knowledge. My thread wasn't "Describe EXACTLY what a band sounds like" ...it's an idea I threw out for fun.

Are you embarassed? I'm not. If you're going to make comparisons, don't make them half assed, make your point. Make it "poignant".

Main Entry: poi·gnant
Pronunciation: 'poi-ny&nt sometimes 'poi(g)-n&nt

3 a : pleasurably stimulating b : being to the point : APT

My Shakti comparison was fun and accurate at the same time...and every single one of my comparisons have been the same.

Shakti? Shaak Ti? Is that a misspelling in spite, or some Star Wars Freudian slip?

You not seeming to think so is demonstrating that:

a) you're not really with it, and...

b) you're being quite prudish.

The accuracy is in your opinion. I don't see it that way, and you haven't really given any examples as far as elements go to accomodate your comparisons. I'm "with it", I "get it", and if you think I'm aggravating, take a look at all your posts. I'm trying to make a point, you're just annoying people with inane logic.

I don't know who Death blow is and what he said.

Dated February 10;

Originally posted by Deathblow
Enter Shikari are quite big in England, considering they don't have an album out yet. I don't think they're that unique really, the sort of trance elements they have in their music are awesome but aside from that they could be a British Alexisonfire (before they turned boring).

Dated February 17;

Originally posted by EPIIIBITES

I'd say Enter Shikari is basically..."Alexis on Fire" meets "Venga Boys"

So, I'm supposed to chalk this up to coincidence? Deathblow mentions the comparison, and you toss in a random dance music group that isn't even trance, that have a reputation for making disposable, happy dance music? You're pretty well versed in electronica. To pick the ****ing Vengaboys means either A) you're looking to insult someone, or B) you never heard of Enter Shikari.

Considering you have ignored both times I've asked where you heard the music of Enter Shikari and Alexisonfire, and what songs, and instead decided to moreorless call me clueless and suggest I don't know anything, that alone speaks volumes.

All I do know is what's goin' on in the world of music and how to tellingly sum it up in a few words or less...if you can't get on board with that...your loss.

I'm on board, your OPINION is just different, and to be perfectly honest, you can't have an opinion on something you've never even heard.

Originally posted by The Core
Shakti? Shaak Ti? Is that a misspelling in spite, or some Star Wars Freudian slip?

That was funny. Seriously...props for that. That's what I get for being a Star Wars nerd and swinging back and forth KMC threads.

...now back to reading the rest of your post!

What's worse is that I actually knew who Shaak Ti was, lol.

Have you ever heard of something called You Tube??? There's pretty much tons of everything on there...that's where I've listened to them...and I'm honestly too lazy to try and figure out every single song I've heard before. But I'm very well aware of their sound.

And I picked Venga Boys because...a) I honestly couldn't find a popular enough trance group that I thought people would get the reference of...and b) because there are songs that sound as quirky and high tempo as the Venga Boys...It's funny, but it's true.

Relax a little

And as far as my abilities for comparisons go, if you know anything about The Killers, you know they basically worship The Smiths...and it shows, and they cited Springsteen as their major influence for their last record...what are you going about...seriously?

Crap, gotta do homework now...ciao.

Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Oh my. Krunk'd...stick to movies. Let me assure you that your crap metre in the world of film happens to be quite good...but you're a little out of your league here.

Am I assuming correctly that you think you are somehow above other people with your musical knowledge, despite being proven wrong on multiple occasions by The Core, Ya Krunk'd Floo, Alpha Centauri and Victor Von Doom?

I don't know...it just doesn't fit together somehow.

Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Have you ever heard of something called You Tube??? There's pretty much tons of everything on there...that's where I've listened to them...and I'm honestly too lazy to try and figure out every single song I've heard before. But I'm very well aware of their sound.

And I picked Venga Boys because...a) I honestly couldn't find a popular enough trance group that I thought people would get the reference of...and b) because there are songs that sound as quirky and high tempo as the Venga Boys...It's funny, but it's true.

Relax a little

And as far as my abilities for comparisons go, if you know anything about The Killers, you know they basically worship The Smiths...and it shows, and they cited Springsteen as their major influence for their last record...what are you going about...seriously?

Crap, gotta do homework now...ciao.

I appreciate you citing your sources, and while it still doesn't explain the reasoning behind selecting those bands, I'll take it because I don't want to go through this anymore. I'm satisfied.

Vengaboys are still a shitty choice, and all I know, and want to know, about The Killers is what I hear, and I didn't hear neither The Smiths, Morrissey, or The Boss in their new music. I hear, like I said, Roy Orbison over The Cure, at their peak.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Am I assuming correctly that you think you are somehow above other people with your musical knowledge, despite being proven wrong on multiple occasions by The Core, Ya Krunk'd Floo, Alpha Centauri and Victor Von Doom?

a) The Red Hot Chili Peppers are still relevant, and that "Can't Stop" is one of their "great" songs!!!

b) The Rolling Stones and Prince AREN'T in fact fading away, and that being in a Super-Bowl halftime time show or getting nominated for making a song for a movie (...like "Happy Feet"😉 can somehow support a statement like that.

c) There's no real truth in "silly" analogies like... Led Zeppelin = Apocalypse Now, Nickleback = Pearl Harbour. Pfft!

d) They don't actually care what others think of their taste...but really, I strogly doubt they know what that means.

And it's funny, if they REALLY did understand that their musical taste is as arbitrary as what their favourite colour is (and that they indeed shouldn't care), then they wouldn't get as defensive (as they have done COUNTLESS times on a variety of topics) when people put forth criticism about an artist they happen to like. Once you get past that, you'll become more adept at seeing that the music you like and music that's good can be two completely different things.

And about musical intelligence, I would maintain that if a person said they thought Happy Hardcore was good techno...it does indeed say something about their musical intelligence (apart from just being plain wrong).

I don't know where you yourself stand on all of this, but if you want to put yourself in the company of the people who I just summed up above...be my guest. Proven wrong?...countless times?...oh please. Those who are smart enough to know where I'm coming from and get my critique and wit regarding the music scene would very much disagree with you I'm afraid.

Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Oh thank you so much. Perfect...These people you mentioned have actually been as clueless as to go on record and say things like...

a) The Red Hot Chili Peppers are still relevant, and that "Can't Stop" is one of their "great" songs!!!

b) The Rolling Stones and Prince AREN'T in fact fading away, and that being in a Super-Bowl halftime time show or getting nominated for making a song for a movie (...like "Happy Feet"😉 can somehow support a statement like that.

c) There's no real truth in "silly" analogies like... Led Zeppelin = Apocalypse Now, Nickleback = Pearl Harbour. Pfft!

d) They don't actually care what others think of their taste...but really, I strogly doubt they know what that means.

And it's funny, if they REALLY did understand that their musical taste is as arbitrary as what their favourite colour is (and that they indeed shouldn't care), then they wouldn't get as defensive (as they have done COUNTLESS times on a variety of topics) when people put forth criticism about an artist they happen to like. Once you get past that, you'll become more adept at seeing that the music you like and music that's good can be two completely different things.

And about musical intelligence, I would mainitain that if a person said they thought Happy Hardcore was good techno...it does indeed say something about about their musical intelligence (apart from just being plain wrong).

I don't know where you yourself stand on all of this, but if you want to put yourself in the company of the people who I just summed up above...be my guest. Proven wrong?...countless times?...oh please. Those who are smart enough to get my critique and wit about most of what I've said regarding the music scene would disagree with that.

The Red Hot Chilli Peppers jsut put out an insanely great album, which was well received , topped the charts around the world and sold extremely well.

The Rolling Stones accomplished the biggest tour ever. Prince put out an album that also was very well received...

You put out the analogies, stop lying. And how can there be a real truth? Taste is subjective.

You are a moron

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And why are you the master of this "musical intelligence", did it ever occur to you that maybe you do not have the perfect taste? If there is an absolute truth, why do you think you know it, while the others I mentioned are wrong?

No point...

Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
No point...

No really, it amazes me. Why do you think that you know what is good and what not?

You're trying to goat me into saying I think I'm a "master of musical intelligence" or that I have "perfect taste"...what does THAT mean?

Again, no point explaining my arguments...there's already a thread around this stuff. Read up and post there if you like.

Seacrest...out!

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Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Oh thank you so much! Perfect! These folks you just mentioned happen to actually gang up to feel better about what they say to actually gang up, say the things they do mostly because they have a beef with my opinions, and have actually been as clueless as to go on record and say things like...

You're spectacularly paranoid to think we're out to get you. It just so happens we have strong, varying opinions. It has nothing to do with "feeling better" about what we say. It's trying to get actual points through your thick skull, which has failed miserably.

a) The Red Hot Chili Peppers are still relevant, and that "Can't Stop" is one of their "great" songs!!!

Wether you agree or disagree is your opinion. You present your opinion as fact, as witnessed here with the sarcasm. Just because your personal conviction that the song is trash is overwhelmingly strong doesn't make it gospel. It's your strong opinion, nothing more.

b) The Rolling Stones and Prince AREN'T in fact fading away, and that being in a Super-Bowl halftime time show or getting nominated for making a song for a movie (...like "Happy Feet"😉 can somehow support a statement like that.

Your original argument was that those two bands FADED away. PAST TENSE. You changed it to fading once you got schooled with proof that they're still important in some facets. You can cite the Super Bowl and Happy Feet all you want, while ignoring setting concert attendance records and Grammy nominations, Billboard sales, and chart topping fall to the wayside of your logic, just so you can be "right".

c) There's no real truth in "silly" analogies like... Led Zeppelin = Apocalypse Now, Nickleback = Pearl Harbour. Pfft!

There's no truth in it because it's subjective. I loathe "Apocalypse Now" and enjoyed "Pearl Harbor". Does that give me the right to go around suggesting everyone who likes "Apocalypse Now" has poor taste?

d) They don't actually care what others think of their taste...but really, I strogly doubt they know what that means.

Is it really that hard to grasp? We like what we like, and we don't have to justify what we listen to by convincing ourselves that it's "crap" when we don't think it is. Don't push your wacky ass logic on us just because you can't justify liking a band that you think sucks to begin with for the sake of not having a guilty pleasure.

And it's funny, if they REALLY did understand that their musical taste is as arbitrary as what their favourite colour is (and that they indeed shouldn't care), then they wouldn't get as defensive (as they have done COUNTLESS times on a variety of topics) when people put forth criticism about an artist they happen to like.

If you make a strong point and use valid reasoning, people wouldn't get on your ass about it. But when you make baseless assumptions and try to draw parallels based on what little you've heard, wether it was in spite or not, you should expect to be offended.

If I came out and said The Stone Roses sound like "Oasis meets The Who", cited the Stone Roses song "Waterfall", any Oasis song where Liam sings, and any Who song, would I be so far off in YOUR estimation? If YOU THOUGHT my comparison was unfair, you'd tell me in defense of the band you like, would you not?

Once you get past that, you'll become more adept at seeing that the music you like and music that's good can be two completely different things.

Tell me why..the ****..would we listen to music we thought was garbage.

****ing unbelievable. You've got some credence, there.

And about musical intelligence, I would maintain that if a person said they thought Happy Hardcore was good techno...it does indeed say something about their musical intelligence (apart from just being plain wrong).

An opinion can't be wrong! You've learned nothing! I just so happen to like some Happy Hardcore. I also like Opeth. I also like Paul Wall. I also like The Beatles. I also like Metallica. Does liking a particular form of music DEFINE ME? Does it represent my musical tastes ENTIRELY? NO! It does NOT!

I don't know where you yourself stand on all of this, but if you want to put yourself in the company of the people who I just summed up above...be my guest. Proven wrong?...countless times?...oh please. Those who are smart enough to know where I'm coming from and get my critique and wit regarding the music scene would very much disagree with you I'm afraid.

You have been proven wrong, with facts and figures. You can chose to deny it all you want, but you've just dragged your credibility through shit so many times in the music forum, and "the proof is in the pudding", so to speak.

Here's another one. "The writing is on the wall".

Leave.

Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
You're trying to goat me into saying I think I'm a "master of musical intelligence" or that I have "perfect taste"...what does THAT mean?

You've already done that to yourself more times than you realize, Mr. My-Opinion-Is-Fact.

You're scary...and you're making false points about me and what I've said. I think you need to go back and look at those posts again when you've cooled off.

What false points? There's no need to review them because it's the same song and dance over and over. Browbeat everyone with your logic then call us clueless.

Please. Cite the false points.

There's no point, seriously. It's all been said...

Have a nice day!

Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
There's no point, seriously. It's all been said...

Have a nice day!

Oh, a coward.

this is giving me such a headache.