Ok this should just stop this debate. Everyone of spiderman PHYSICAL adversaries, spiderman cannot defeat them. Spiderman cant defeat black tarantula but to me sabertooth would kill black tarantula, he's not indestructible sabertooth can take him down. Second, morlun. Morlun dont stand a chance against wolverine or sabertooth. He would get killed but he did mop the floor with spiderman, actually almost killed him. Sabertooth is everything morlun is plus interest and you say that spiderman can beat sabertooth. Do me a favor, tell me how in the hell is he going to beat sabertooth, oh let me guess he's going to knock him out when sasquash or wendigo couldnt even daze him. IF spiderman web him up, sabertooth can just sit down just like wolverine did and take all of spiderman punches while trying to find a way to get out of the webbing (look at marvel knights #13, wolverine took an enraged spiderman punches and sat down and let him punch on him and spiderman can beat sabertooth.). Spiderman dont have a way of beating either of these characters. Spiderman get owned by lesser fighters and its just sad that you all think that he can beat people on these caliber.
Like I said before, silver samarai OWNED spiderman, knocking him out. Sabertooth took on SPIDERMAN AND THE PUNISHER AT THE SAME TIME AND ALMOST GOT KILLED, SABERTOOTH LET HIM GO. Spiderman in his iron suit just got owned by captain america saying "he has hit me three times and I didnt land a single hit" he had to resort to to the tentacles on his back to even land a hit. If he didnt have that captain america would still be b**** slapping him today. I seen somebody type that spiderman fight people on wolverine and sabertooth caliber, WHO, spiderman enemies isnt nothing but humans that was given a suit or was enhanced, they dont have any experience, no fighting skills that even come close to either wolverine or sabertooth. No do me this favor tell me which one of spiderman enemies has ........ healing factor (one of the best in marvel), enhanced strength, adamantium bones, adamantium claws or just regular sharp claws (dont have to be adamantium), ability to smell anywhere you go, cant hide or sneek him, enhanced hearing, speed, agility, and one of the best fighters in marvel. Who in spiderman rogue compare to that, no one.
None of spiderman enemies (like i said before) are fighters, theyre just meta humans. You cant say that spiderman fight people like wolverine or sabertooth because he dont. The closest person that he fought that came even close to everything that I named was black tarantula and we all know how that ended.
Venom isnt even everything that I named. Venom fighting ability is at 2, that why wolverine run circles around him (from the fights that i have witnessed). Im not saying that wolverine or sabertooth is more powerful than venom because theyre not but wolverine and sabertooth are on a different level than venom and they operate better than venom. Now let me tell you this. Puck; he's everything that spiderman is plus more. Hes stronger than spiderman, as fast as spiderman, as agile as spiderman and more durable than spiderman but wolverine slung him to the side like he was a toddler.
Sabertooth is just to much for spiderman, just like the pre upgraded sabertooth was to much for spiderman, he almost killed the guy.