Spiderman versus Sabretooth

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
So why would he flee Jinzin? (Sabes vs. DD)

I'm not sure if it could really be considered "fleeing"

sabretooth didn't seem to be running away from anything.. rather running amok aimlessly through the tunnels...
maybe a response to his inability to keep from letting loose his bloodlust on his mate?

meh anything I could construe would be nothing more than speculation though. The point was that Sabretooth was still fit enough to run around.. dd wasn't.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
He does hold the winning advantage, even Srank said that. And you agreed with him before, WHEN he said it, now you are shifting again.
However I'm not going to pretend to have as much knowledge as you in Wolverine, but I know whenever I see their encounters in general I see Wolverine win by taking advantage of Sabretooth's CIS (or temper).

When did I agree with him?

How long ago was it?

My interest in Creed didn't begin to peek until about a year ago, but from what I've learned and gathered within that time I've come to find that Creed does indeed hold a solid advantage to wolverine's on panal victories. 😬

Now: you STILL haven't answered my question.
What standard of evidence are you looking for when reffering to "statistical" data in terms of Creed's strength?

Originally posted by jinzin
I'm not sure if it could really be considered "fleeing"

sabretooth didn't seem to be running away from anything.. rather running amok aimlessly through the tunnels...
maybe a response to his inability to keep from letting loose his bloodlust on his mate?

meh anything I could construe would be nothing more than speculation though. The point was that Sabretooth was still fit enough to run around.. dd wasn't.

But one has a durability advantage, Black Cat's situation was entirely different.

Originally posted by jinzin
When did I agree with him?

How long ago was it?

My interest in Creed didn't begin to peek until about a year ago, but from what I've learned and gathered within that time I've come to find that Creed does indeed hold a solid advantage to wolverine's on panal victories. 😬

Now: you STILL haven't answered my question.
What standard of evidence are you looking for when reffering to "statistical" data in terms of Creed's strength?

Srank disagreed with you and you said, "Yea but you know what I mean."

I did answer it: if you are arguing him higher than 10-15 tons (which you might not be), where does it say that?

Spider-Man lose to Wolverine. Spider-Man lose to Sabertooth too.

From Canada?

lol (inside joke)

It's not patriotism, lol 😛 But the facts are the facts...

Or subjective opinion. 😛

sabs 7/10

I can agree with that assessment in most instances.

Well I say Spiderman, I don't see Sabretooth getting near him!

I always remember when Iron Fist beat Sabretooth up a few times.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
But one has a durability advantage, Black Cat's situation was entirely different.

if hulk and rogue go at it, and rogue's pounding on hulk the whole fight but at the end of the fight he smacks her down and walks away virtually unaffected while she's too injured to persist... she didn't hand him his ass. 😬

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You had been saying that ever since it's been brought up, it's general forum knowledge from what I seen that people agree that Logan beats Sabes on panel more often.

Srank disagreed with you and you said, "Yea but you know what I mean."

I did answer it: if you are arguing him higher than 10-15 tons (which you might not be), where does it say that?

I had been saying that for quite some time, BEFORE I familiarized myself with Sabretooth's entire career. Now I know different.

And: "it's general forum knoledge that people agree"...? 😕

does a bunch of uneducated people making statements mean that because they say the same thing it's the correct thing to say?

I guess you'll just have to trust me on this one.. sabretooth DEFINITELY has more on panal victories, decisions, and upper hands than logan. It's not up for debate.

Finally.. no you didn't answer my question. All you did was state that Sabretooth can't lift 20 tons as if there's nothing to debate there...
Again, my question is WHAT statistical evidence do you need to confirm Carver's position?
What are you looking for?
Does it need to be stated somewhere? I mean I can jot it down on wikipedia if you'd like.

Originally posted by Flame On!!
Well I say Spiderman, I don't see Sabretooth getting near him!

K, do you "see" THIS?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4742042

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4742044

Originally posted by Flame On!!
I always remember when Iron Fist beat Sabretooth up a few times.

It was more like.. two times.. at the very beginning of sabretooth's career... 😐

you know what I remember?

when an ESTABLISHED Sabretototh took out an upgraded constrictor (who already beat danny), took danny's iron fist without going down, and toe to toed it with luke cage... wasn't even KOed until X-factor got there to put a stop to him..

Originally posted by jinzin
It was more like.. two times.. at the very beginning of sabretooth's career... 😐

you know what I remember?

when an ESTABLISHED Sabretototh took out an upgraded constrictor (who already beat danny), took danny's iron fist without going down, and toe to toed it with luke cage... wasn't even KOed until X-factor got there to put a stop to him..

PIS. I remember when an injured Danny KO'ed Sabretooth by turning out the ligts and hitting him with a vase. Twice is a couple or a few.

Originally posted by Flame On!!
PIS. I remember when an injured Danny KO'ed Sabretooth by turning out the ligts and hitting him with a vase. Twice is a couple or a few.

yes twice is a couple.. which is why a few is more than a couple.. 😐

and you remember incorrectly.. Sabretooth was the one who turned ou the lights.. and Danny Koed him with a kick after he lured sabretooth into a false sense of security.

And it's not PIS, it's called character growth.. Danny beat sabretooth before sabretooth had any sort of healing factor, or enhanced strength and durability.

Sabretooth being hit by the iron fist and standing up to it didn't further any plot line whatsoever.. it's not PIS.

Originally posted by jinzin
yes. and?
It still stands the same.. dd didn't hand him his ass...

if hulk and rogue go at it, and rogue's pounding on hulk the whole fight but at the end of the fight he smacks her down and walks away virtually unaffected while she's too injured to persist... she didn't hand him his ass. 😬

I had been saying that for quite some time, BEFORE I familiarized myself with Sabretooth's entire career. Now I know different.

And: "it's general forum knoledge that people agree"...? 😕

does a bunch of uneducated people making statements mean that because they say the same thing it's the correct thing to say?

I guess you'll just have to trust me on this one.. sabretooth DEFINITELY has more on panal victories, decisions, and upper hands than logan. It's not up for debate.

Finally.. no you didn't answer my question. All you did was state that Sabretooth can't lift 20 tons as if there's nothing to debate there...
Again, my question is WHAT statistical evidence do you need to confirm Carver's position?
What are you looking for?
Does it need to be stated somewhere? I mean I can jot it down on wikipedia if you'd like.

Because Rogue didn't and wouldn't make Hulk look outclassed.

And no what I meant is pretty much the whole forum agrees, the educated ones, I don't bother listening to people who don't have good knowledge on the matter.

I did answer your question: where is it statistically stated that he lifts twenty tons, or thirty, or whatever? I didn't ask you to make it, I simply asked where, is it anywhere?

Originally posted by jinzin
yes twice is a couple.. which is why a few is more than a couple.. 😐

and you remember incorrectly.. Sabretooth was the one who turned ou the lights.. and Danny Koed him with a kick after he lured sabretooth into a false sense of security.

And it's not PIS, it's called character growth.. Danny beat sabretooth before sabretooth had any sort of healing factor, or enhanced strength and durability.

Sabretooth being hit by the iron fist and standing up to it didn't further any plot line whatsoever.. it's not PIS.

I could have sworn they were in a museum and Danny kicked a vase at him. Been years since I read it.

All I remember is Sabretooth got owned.

Nah, a couple and a few are reasonably interchangeable.

Think how spidey has grown, he defeats Sabretooth types all the time.

Originally posted by Flame On!!
I could have sworn they were in a museum and Danny kicked a vase at him. Been years since I read it.

they were in a museum but that didn't take place.

Originally posted by Flame On!!
All I remember is Sabretooth got owned.

Originally posted by Flame On!!
Nah, a couple and a few are reasonably interchangeable.

Originally posted by Flame On!!
Think how spidey has grown, he defeats Sabretooth types all the time.

And. No he doesn't. Spiderman regularly fights people with sabretooth's strength (sure), or sharp claws of (course), or natural ferocity (absolutely), but spiderman hardly EVER fights anyone with all of those factors PLUS sabe's healing factor, superb fighting skill, experience, and incredible stamina/durability all at the same time.. the last time he fought anyone even CLOSE to Sabretooth that WASN'T sabretooth himself, was when he fought black turantula... and he got nothing more than a lesson in humility.

Originally posted by jinzin
they were in a museum but that didn't take place.

Not really... he had a strict advantage over danny in the dark.. danny just tricked him.

Perhaps, but they DO imply different relativity. 😬

ah yes, spidey has grown so much he.... nearly gets dropped by captain america?

And. No he doesn't. Spiderman regularly fights people with sabretooth's strength (sure), or sharp claws of (course), or natural ferocity (absolutely), but spiderman hardly EVER fights anyone with all of those factors PLUS sabe's healing factor, superb fighting skill, experience, and incredible stamina/durability all at the same time.. the last time he fought anyone even CLOSE to Sabretooth that WASN'T sabretooth himself, was when he fought black turantula... and he got nothing more than a lesson in humility.

He fights people like Carnage, Venom, Carrion etc all of whom would destroy Sabretooth.

- FO!!

i am ruining this debate ONCE and for all🙂