Spiderman versus Sabretooth

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
So are we going to lose low showings again? Spiderman has actually trumphed over many of his physical opponents, but then again his physical opponents are usually physically unbeatable, or made to counter him. He usually uses his brain.

What physical spiderman villian are you referring to that is unbeatable because sabertooth can kill either morlun or black tarantula. Spiderman get owned by any of the people that even come close to wolverine or sabertooth caliber. Spiderman get owned by king pin. I dont have to use a low showing for spiderman because he dont have ANY fighters in his rogue gallery to even compare to wolverine or sabertooth fighting caliber. Black tarantula is about the only fighter that is in spiderman rogue and he still aint even close to wolverine or sabertooth fighting style. Wolverine weakest villian fights better than black tarantula, out of the top ten fighters in marvel wolverine rogue would be in there, mr.x, mastered every fighting style on the planet, Deadpool, actually created from wolverine one of the best fighters in marvel. Gorgon, mastered every fighting style on the planet, ogun mastered over 13 fighting styles also creating his own. Sabertooth mastered almost all of the fighting styles on the planet, same goes for lady death strike and silver samarai. All of these people that i have name could be some of the best fighters on the planet. Now you name someone from spiderman rogue that even come close to one of the weakest fighters on this list ( silver samarai). You cant because spiderman would lose.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
And draning powers, all Sabes has is durability as well that is a huge advantage.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
No, because I don't bring up Spiderman vs. Wolverine in every thread.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I've brought him up as a comparison to Sabretooth, but that's it. It's you guys who bring that up in every thread. Unless you'd like to go point out where I did bring it up first.

Originally posted by carver9
What physical spiderman villian are you referring to that is unbeatable because sabertooth can kill either morlun or black tarantula. Spiderman get owned by any of the people that even come close to wolverine or sabertooth caliber. Spiderman get owned by king pin. I dont have to use a low showing for spiderman because he dont have ANY fighters in his rogue gallery to even compare to wolverine or sabertooth fighting caliber. Black tarantula is about the only fighter that is in spiderman rogue and he still aint even close to wolverine or sabertooth fighting style. Wolverine weakest villian fights better than black tarantula, out of the top ten fighters in marvel wolverine rogue would be in there, mr.x, mastered every fighting style on the planet, Deadpool, actually created from wolverine one of the best fighters in marvel. Gorgon, mastered every fighting style on the planet, ogun mastered over 13 fighting styles also creating his own. Sabertooth mastered almost all of the fighting styles on the planet, same goes for lady death strike and silver samarai. All of these people that i have name could be some of the best fighters on the planet. Now you name someone from spiderman rogue that even come close to one of the weakest fighters on this list ( silver samarai). You cant because spiderman would lose.

King Pin is such a low showing and you know it. Wolverine's foes have better fighting skills usually but are nowhere near as strong or fast with any certain powers.

Why don't you bring out some of Spiderman's higher showings, like Titania (who would own Wolverine), or when he fought Thor.

Spiderman has trumped over Ock, and even Venom before, he also was beating on SS when he had Carnage inside of him. He's owned Rhino several times, who has insane durability.

Wolverine can't beat Omega, he's freaked by Cyber, he can't beat Sabretooth eiteher, so that really leaves us nowhere.

Spiderman could web deathstrike and Cyber, and Silver Samurai HAS beaten Wolverine.

Hydroman and Sandman would be unbeatable by punches and kicks alone. Spiderman foes are usually designed to specifically target him. That's why he uses his head, because it's part of his character.

Wolverine can't beat Ock, nor Sandman, nor venom, nor carnage, nor Toxin, so why are we doing this because it really doesn't matter.

Originally posted by capt it up
Sabertooth has a lot more then durability. Morlun beat the crap out of spiderman. Morlun however would get pwned by sabertooth. Spiderman was unable to put morlun down in there first encounter because no matter what he did morlun was to durable however sabertooth has the ability to keep morlun down

Originally posted by capt it up
Nor do I .

You guys? You mea me in jinzin? Your wrong neither of us do. We never bring him up however if some one else brings him up saying some thing false we will quote them on it and tell them it is false

I was never pointed towards where I most recently did this.

Oh, man. Morlun would wreck Sabretooth.

He's so much faster, appears to be much stronger, and has some insane durability.

Originally posted by Flame On!!
Wolverine Vs. Hydroman or Sandman would be funny. Slash/ Slash drowned or suffocated.

spiderman without prep vs. those two would be funny as well, since the same exact thing would happen. 😐

Originally posted by Flame On!!
Then you'd know i was right. I remember when Cyclops beat up Wolverine in the Proteus saga. 🙂

yeah and I remember that wolverine was so shakin up from the illusions that he experienced that he coul hardly talk. I remember later how cylops admitted he was lucky, admitted wolverine wasn't near the top of his game, and I sure as hell remember how wolverine fighting at his best punked cyclops, hellion, and captain america at the same time.

Originally posted by Flame On!!
Is pritty the same as pretty.

🙂

I've proved my points. You're just to much of a "fanboy" to admit it. I bet you've been called a "fanboy before", haven't you "fanboy". 😉

- FO!!

you've proven nothing other than the fact that your perception of comic book events is skewed as hell. 😐

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
So are we going to lose low showings again? Spiderman has actually trumphed over many of his physical opponents, but then again his physical opponents are usually physically unbeatable, or made to counter him. He usually uses his brain.

in all honesty, I really do think spiderman has a GENUINE problem when he deals with MA's I think that his spider sense is a sense that plays him false when dealing with that kind of experience... but that's just me.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Oh, man. Morlun would wreck Sabretooth.

He's so much faster, appears to be much stronger, and has some insane durability.

he got taken out by a couple of stingers.. it's a pretty clear indication that creeds claws are going to be seriously damaging.

Originally posted by jinzin

and I sure as hell remember how wolverine fighting at his best punked cyclops, hellion, and captain america at the same time.

Im serioulsy not having that. Wolverine doesnt get to be that good without PIS. Apparently in that story Wolverine tackled Cyclops and he started bitching like a little girl, it in general seems to be badly written.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Wolverine has gotten owned by Silver Samurai, hell he was beaten by Arkangel, and even womped by an Elk, so I hope you aren't serious. He was also nailed by DD.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
King Pin is such a low showing and you know it. Wolverine's foes have better fighting skills usually but are nowhere near as strong or fast with any certain powers.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Why don't you bring out some of Spiderman's higher showings, like Titania (who would own Wolverine), or when he fought Thor.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Spiderman has trumped over Ock, and even Venom before, he also was beating on SS when he had Carnage inside of him. He's owned Rhino several times, who has insane durability..

He loses to ock more often.
venom the same.
and ss was fighting himself when spiderman did that so it's hard to give that to spidey.
wolverine's one shotted rhino, and cap's taken him down with kicks and punches so that's not really impressive either.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Wolverine can't beat Ock, nor Sandman, nor venom, nor carnage, nor Toxin, so why are we doing this because it really doesn't matter.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Im serioulsy not having that. Wolverine doesnt get to be that good without PIS. Apparently in that story Wolverine tackled Cyclops and he started bitching like a little girl, it in general seems to be badly written.

you can "not have that" all you like. Doesn't change comic book FACT.

And of course I'm going to bring high end showings here to level out that low end circumstantial bullshit they're trying to bring into this debate.

Originally posted by jinzin
you can "not have that" all you like. Doesn't change comic book FACT.

Yeah thats why we have a PIS and a SvFL, because if it happens in a comic we automatically accept it. 🙄

Wolverine aint taking Cap, Cyclops and Hellion...what a load of crap.

Furthermore Wolverine hadnt slept or eaten for days.....I dont think so somehow.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah thats why we have a PIS and a SvFL, because if it happens in a comic we automatically accept it. 🙄

Wolverine aint taking Cap, Cyclops and Hellion...what a load of crap.

Furthermore Wolverine hadnt slept or eaten for days.....I dont think so somehow.

pffft.. are you trying to insinuate that the whole idea of PIS isn't a subjective one?

The only reason why you don't see it happening is because you don't like it.
Wolverine being a pain in the ass for multiple superheroes at once is nothing new.. he's had similar displays in the past.

Originally posted by jinzin
pffft.. are you trying to insinuate that the whole idea of PIS isn't a subjective one?

Yes it is.

Originally posted by jinzin

The only reason why you don't see it happening is because you don't like it.

Where else has he displayed the ability to do that after having no sleep and starving for days.

Originally posted by jinzin

Wolverine being a pain in the ass for multiple superheroes at once is nothing new.. he's had similar displays in the past.

What heroes where they and what were there circumstances.

Originally posted by jinzin

in all honesty, I really do think spiderman has a GENUINE problem when he deals with MA's I think that his spider sense is a sense that plays him false when dealing with that kind of experience... but that's just me.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Im serioulsy not having that. Wolverine doesnt get to be that good without PIS. Apparently in that story Wolverine tackled Cyclops and he started bitching like a little girl, it in general seems to be badly written.

Originally posted by jinzin
when did silver samurai ever own him? All I've seen of the two are heavy handed beatdowns in wolverine's favor..
being kicked by an elk proves nothing other than that he was kicked by an elk.
when has he ever been beaten by archangel? Again, from what I've seen a wolverine who was still recovering from being near death by the reavers held his own against warren just fine and he was holding back.

I generally don't think King Pin is that bad, he doesn't get enough credit IMO.

Titania wouldn't own wolverine. She hulk's had problems just trying to restrain wolverine. and titania got knocked out when she was hit with a car.
Spiderman was faster than eric masterson could percieve.. not the true thor.. good showing though I'll give you that.

He loses to ock more often.
venom the same.
and ss was fighting himself when spiderman did that so it's hard to give that to spidey.
wolverine's one shotted rhino, and cap's taken him down with kicks and punches so that's not really impressive either.

wolverine's beaten ock.. 😕
spiderman generally can't beat any of those characters mentioned thereafter either so no use bringing them up.
Wolverine has a wayyyyy better statistical record over venom than does spiderman though.
and
the toxin thing.. meh.

Wolverine wouldn't beat Ock in the forums.

c-master no we don't.

also morlun durability was the mai problem. sabertooth could last many times longer and would not be nearly as effected by enregy draining. His claws as well would put major damage on morlun that spiderman could not.

Originally posted by jinzin
he got taken out by a couple of stingers.. it's a pretty clear indication that creeds claws are going to be seriously damaging.

I was under the assumption that the stingers are magical in nature, seeming to be the only things that could actually stop Morlun. Nothing else Spidey threw at him was causing him any damage at all. Even things that would bruise or cut even superpowered foes did nothing to Morlun.

http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=e5xx.gif

You can see even a large slab of concrete didn't even phase him. Not even a scratch on his skin. And yet, Sabretooth would slice right through him? Yea, sure.

Therefore, it wasn't JUST stingers. 🙄

Of course, there's always the giant speed advantage Morlun has as well.

I think Sabretooth will win this match up cause of his healing factor and strength with claws

morlun has no speed advantage. so the stingers can pierce morlun, but not adamatium claws ya that make's complete sense🙄

Originally posted by capt it up
morlun has no speed advantage. so the stingers can pierce morlun, but not adamatium claws ya that make's complete sense🙄

And you say read the Morlun series?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
And you say read the Morlun series?

Originally posted by capt it up
c-master no we don't.

also morlun durability was the mai problem. sabertooth could last many times longer and would not be nearly as effected by enregy draining. His claws as well would put major damage on morlun that spiderman could not.