You cannot Prove God's existence.

Started by Shakyamunison14 pages
Originally posted by Nellinator
Proof of existence? No. You have a bad habit of making silly assumptions.

And what "silly assumption" are you talking about?

That I was suggesting the Bible was able to convey proof of God.

Originally posted by Nellinator
That I was suggesting the Bible was able to convey proof of God.

That was not what I was saying.

You said:

Do you really expect a being that is spiritual by nature to be tangible by science?

I said:

But this being is able to be conveyed in a book?

If a being that is spiritual by nature cannot be tangible by science, then that being cannot be tangible by a book.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Do you really expect a being that is spiritual by nature to be tangible by science?

If such a being interacts with the physical world, then yes, I do.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That was not what I was saying.

You said:

Do you really expect a being that is spiritual by nature to be tangible by science?

I said:

But this being is able to be conveyed in a book?

If a being that is spiritual by nature cannot be tangible by science, then that being cannot be tangible by a book.

That's poor logic. It would depend entirely upon the subject matter of the book. If the book is spiritually inspired then it would be able to convey the nature of a spiritual being.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
If such a being interacts with the physical world, then yes, I do.
That is foolish.

Originally posted by Nellinator
That's poor logic. It would depend entirely upon the subject matter of the book. If the book is spiritually inspired then it would be able to convey the nature of a spiritual being.

That is foolish.

You didn't know I was talking about the bible? 😱

BTW how can a book be spiritually inspired and not be able to be understood by science?

That is foolish
Said the wise man???

To call someone else a fool, makes one a fool. Even Jesus said that, but in harsher terms.

Yes, I did.

Because spiritual things are outside the scope of science.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Said the wise man???

To call someone else a fool, makes one a fool. Even Jesus said that, but in harsher terms.

Jesus was a fool though, you don't want to listen to that nut.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Yes, I did.

Because spiritual things are outside the scope of science.

But books are within the scope of science. The bible was written by humans who thought the world was flat and the sun went around the Earth.

Not, huh?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Jesus was a fool though, you don't want to listen to that nut.

I'm, huh, sorry... Not really. I don't know exactly where you come from or who do you think you are, but Jesus had no internet nor massive media for education, he also died. I don't know what makes you think you have the right to call any figure a fool, but well, it was just uncalled. Is Victor Hugo a fool?

Re: Not, huh?

Originally posted by Bentley
I'm, huh, sorry... Not really. I don't know exactly where you come from or who do you think you are, but Jesus had no internet nor massive media for education, he also died. I don't know what makes you think you have the right to call any figure a fool, but well, it was just uncalled. Is Victor Hugo a fool?

I think it was an attempt at sarcasm.

Originally posted by Bentley
I'm, huh, sorry... Not really. I don't know exactly where you come from or who do you think you are, but Jesus had no internet nor massive media for education, he also died. I don't know what makes you think you have the right to call any figure a fool, but well, it was just uncalled. Is Victor Hugo a fool?
I am pretty, pretty sure my country and the freedom on the Internet gives me the right to call anyone I want a fool. That's my first point. Second, though he used the word sarcasm incorrectly, Shakya is right, it was a joke directed at debbiejo's nonsense.

Hey, no one calls Bardock a fool! For damns sake he is delusional in HIS OWN RIGHT!!! 😊

Jesus was a fool though, you don't want to listen to that nut.
Let's take it step by step.

Originally posted by Nellinator
That is foolish.

How is it foolish to expect something that can affect the physical world to be quantifiable?

Originally posted by Nellinator
Do you consider your beliefs to be based on logic?

Of some sort yes.

You literally beleive in a all powerful white man who lives in the sky. Many people who beleive in God, including myself, Shakymunison, and Lil B define God as something we can't fully understand. A unifying force, more of an entity than a person.

You give God a gender. You give him such narrow definitions. You beleive in a self-contradicting God. One who "loves us unconditionally", but will commit murder, genocide, and torture to maintain order.

You know what I beleive already. In my perspective, if God exists, it is neither male or female. It is both. It is the sentience of the universe. That leaves much less conflict than the self-contradicting limitted deity you beleive in.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
Of some sort yes.

You literally beleive in a all powerful white man who lives in the sky. Many people who beleive in God, including myself, Shakymunison, and Lil B define God as something we can't fully understand. A unifying force, more of an entity than a person.

You give God a gender. You give him such narrow definitions. You beleive in a self-contradicting God. One who "loves us unconditionally", but will commit murder, genocide, and torture to maintain order.

You know what I beleive already. In my perspective, if God exists, it is neither male or female. It is both. It is the sentience of the universe. That leaves much less conflict than the self-contradicting limitted deity you beleive in.

👆

Originally posted by debbiejo
Said the wise man???

To call someone else a fool, makes one a fool. Even Jesus said that, but in harsher terms.

I didn't call anyone a fool. Don't be stupid.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
But books are within the scope of science. The bible was written by humans who thought the world was flat and the sun went around the Earth.

Yes, they are, but you are assuming that the inspirer has no knowledge of science which would be a poor assumption.
No, they didn't think it was flat. If this were true you could prove this.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
How is it foolish to expect something that can affect the physical world to be quantifiable?
To expect that it is is foolish. To check is another. I would say it's foolish because we know so very little of spiritual things to say what power it can have over the physical world.
Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
Of some sort yes.

You literally beleive in a all powerful white man who lives in the sky. Many people who beleive in God, including myself, Shakymunison, and Lil B define God as something we can't fully understand. A unifying force, more of an entity than a person.

You give God a gender. You give him such narrow definitions. You beleive in a self-contradicting God. One who "loves us unconditionally", but will commit murder, genocide, and torture to maintain order.

You know what I beleive already. In my perspective, if God exists, it is neither male or female. It is both. It is the sentience of the universe. That leaves much less conflict than the self-contradicting limitted deity you beleive in.


White man? Nope.
In the sky? Nope.
Gender? Nope. In fact, we've had that discussion before and I told you what I believe on the subject.
Self-contradicting? Nope.
And everything God has done has been justified and it wasn't to keep order because God leaves us to our own devices for the most part.

Anthropologists would say you've already limited your view of god because you only include two genders. In fact, I would say your god is very very limited.

Originally posted by Nellinator
...Yes, they are, but you are assuming that the inspirer has no knowledge of science which would be a poor assumption.
No, they didn't think it was flat. If this were true you could prove this...

You need to read the OT. You will see that they believed the Earth was flat and the sun went around the Earth.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You need to read the OT. You will see that they believed the Earth was flat and the sun went around the Earth.
No they didn't. Read the OT and will find that they knew full well that the earth was a suspended globe.