You cannot Prove God's existence.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You need to read the OT. You will see that they believed the Earth was flat and the sun went around the Earth.

What verse says "the Earth is flat"?

Originally posted by Nellinator
No they didn't. Read the OT and will find that they knew full well that the earth was a suspended globe.

Show me the OT verses that say the Earth goes around the sun, or that the Earth is a suspended globe.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
What verse says "the Earth is flat"?

http://www.answering-christianity.com/earth_flat.htm

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
http://www.answering-christianity.com/earth_flat.htm

"Four corners of the Earth" and "ends of the Earth" is the same as saying "sailing the seven seas". It's an arbitrary term that refers to the vastness of the Earth. There's no line that lierally says "the Earth is flat".

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
"Four corners of the Earth" and "ends of the Earth" is the same as saying "sailing the seven seas". It's an arbitrary term that refers to the vastness of the Earth. There's no line that lierally says "the Earth is flat".

You can make excuses all you like. A table has 4 corner.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You can make excuses all you like. A table has 4 corner.

And the Earth does not. You're taking the line literally, as if they actually believed the Earth has the same structure of a table.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
And the Earth does not. You're taking the line literally, as if they actually believed the Earth has the same structure of a table.

And they did. Just because you choose to take it figuratively does not mean it was not written literally.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
And they did. Just because you choose to take it figuratively does not mean it was not written literally.

C'mon, do tables have mountains, forests, jungles, deserts and bodies of water? Of course not.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Show me the OT verses that say the Earth goes around the sun, or that the Earth is a suspended globe.

Originally posted by Nellinator
To expect that it is is foolish. To check is another. I would say it's foolish because we know so very little of spiritual things to say what power it can have over the physical world.

That it can have any affect on the physical world is what makes it quantifiable.

Originally posted by JacopeX
Or prove that the bible is all fake. It is actually based on [B]faith. I am catholic and I believe that faith is what you have even if your a non believer, or Christian, catholic, Muslim, etc. You cant prove god is real or not. Thats impossible really, as well as proving the existence of god wrong. All I have is faith, and I will always believe in god and my religion, holy spirit, Holy Catholic church, and life everlasting.

So, I think it is pretty pointless to try to prove that God and the bible is true or false. If you don't believe in god, that is fine with me. You just don't have faith with it. You don't believe in a god. Does not mean you should try to ruin it all with so many things. We have our defence of our religion as well, but in my opinion, its all faith. So lets end the whole debate and move on. 😄

Thoughts? [/B]

But you cannot prove he does exist, Evolution and the big bang have proven god does not exist, as well as how the world works and the morels you choose to abide by, Evolution is the true answer, and christians now seem to brake the very rules they believe in, another thing is if there was a God he would not let bad things happen to good people, the bible is something made up by someone for amusement, keep your faith's but to me it is all false.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Umm... verses have nothing to do with it. Are you familiar with Jewish writings on the matter? Are you familiar at all with Jewish astronomy?

So, you are telling me that the people who wrote the bible knew that the Earth orbited the sun, and was a ball in space? 😆

I honor my parents sometimes to most of the time.

And fully honoring someone 24/7 - 365d/yr. is unrealistic cause they aren't perfect either. Is the text saying I honor my parents regardless of anything. if so I disagree with that.

What if my father murdered an Innocent child on purpose let's say out of selfishness or greed. Shall i still honor him?

Opps. wrong thread.....

my bad

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
That it can have any affect on the physical world is what makes it quantifiable.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
So, you are telling me that the people who wrote the bible knew that the Earth orbited the sun, and was a ball in space? 😆

Originally posted by Nellinator
That's an assumption that may or may not be correct. You shouldn't assume.

I'm saying you are too ignorant on the subject to even talk about it.

I don't think you are qualified to make that judgment. You have not shown that you are more educated on this topic then I am. Therefore, you are at least as ignorant on the subject as I am. Also, I don't answer to you, or check with you on what I post.

You Christians apparently love your fellow man, yet in past history and even today, christians did bad things, they killed and drove people away so that they were not undermined, some priests have been doing bad things this century.

Originally posted by Nellinator
That's an assumption that may or may not be correct. You shouldn't assume.

But you assume your religion is absolute truth....so I don't understand ?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don't think you are qualified to make that judgment. You have not shown that you are more educated on this topic then I am. Therefore, you are at least as ignorant on the subject as I am. Also, I don't answer to you, or check with you on what I post.

Originally posted by Nellinator
That would be a logical fallacy. I'm merely suggesting you should do your research before spouting ignorance.

I always do my research before spouting ignorance. 😆

Do you enjoy beating your girl friend?