Apocalypse vs. Martian Manhunter

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Only his TP is superior, and Apocalypse has greater energy reserves. And better shapeshifting.

Yes,Yes hell no.

Firstly,as of the latest Retcon last months,flames,whether they be passionate or not,don't do sh*t to Jonn

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic100.jpg
Secondly,Apoc does not have better shapeshifting abilities then Jonn,and i ask you to prove it.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic102.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic103.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic132.jpg

Thirdly,Apoc will never get the Chance to even take a swing at Jonn as he is being speedblitzed at every second.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic128.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic104.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic105.jpg

Fourthly,even were the chance to present itself,Jonn is more then capable of engaging Apoc in H2H and taking the win.With his superior.strength,healing factor and Durability.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic116.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic117.jpg
A jonn who just battled Asmodel is still capable of supporting the heavenly chariot despite it lighting him on fire.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic108.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic109.jpg

Jonn stops an energy blast capable of destroying the warlogog using his bare hands.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic113.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic114.jpg
Jonn takes a full scream from Asmodel and is still standing,then gets caught in an explosion...

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic115.jpg

5 pages later he's still standing.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic120.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic121.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic122.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic123.jpg

Jonn casually wrecks some uber-tanks.

Now,suppose somehow that Apoc is still standing,he also has to deal with Jonns eyebeams...

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic118.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic119.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic101.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic-4.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic112.jpg

Assuming that Apoc hasn't been mindraped to next sunday....
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic110.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic111.jpg

Jonn overrides the Warlogog...a universal artifact..

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic106.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic107.jpg

Jonn turns Joker sane..

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic124.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic125.jpg

Jonn stalemates Starro and then sends him packing with a special frequency.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic129.jpg

States how only Jonn could resist the combined telepathic might of a couple dozen beings.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic137.jpg

Navigates across thousand of miles whilst peircing Maggedons psychic wake,something which can affect planet fulls of Darkseid level beings...

Yah,Apoc ain't doing shit.

Originally posted by bigbran
I have that comic... horrible fight, I mean... stabbing an Eternal?

I keep hearing that...

Why is there a law against stabbing an Eternal??

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Yes,Yes hell no.

Firstly,as of the latest Retcon last months,flames,whether they be passionate or not,don't do sh*t to Jonn

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic100.jpg
Secondly,Apoc does not have better shapeshifting abilities then Jonn,and i ask you to prove it.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic102.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic103.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic132.jpg

Thirdly,Apoc will never get the Chance to even take a swing at Jonn as he is being speedblitzed at every second.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic128.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic104.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic105.jpg

Fourthly,even were the chance to present itself,Jonn is more then capable of engaging Apoc in H2H and taking the win.With his superior.strength,healing factor and Durability.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic116.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic117.jpg
A jonn who just battled Asmodel is still capable of supporting the heavenly chariot despite it lighting him on fire.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic108.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic109.jpg

Jonn stops an energy blast capable of destroying the warlogog using his bare hands.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic113.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic114.jpg
Jonn takes a full scream from Asmodel and is still standing,then gets caught in an explosion...

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic115.jpg

5 pages later he's still standing.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic120.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic121.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic122.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic123.jpg

Jonn casually wrecks some uber-tanks.

Now,suppose somehow that Apoc is still standing,he also has to deal with Jonns eyebeams...

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic118.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic119.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic101.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic-4.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic112.jpg

Assuming that Apoc hasn't been mindraped to next sunday....
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic110.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic111.jpg

Jonn overrides the Warlogog...a universal artifact..

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic106.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic107.jpg

Jonn turns Joker sane..

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic124.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic125.jpg

Jonn stalemates Starro and then sends him packing with a special frequency.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic129.jpg

States how only Jonn could resist the combined telepathic might of a couple dozen beings.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic137.jpg

Navigates across thousand of miles whilst peircing Maggedons psychic wake,something which can affect planet fulls of Darkseid level beings...

Yah,Apoc ain't doing shit.

Could you show me some bad showings of MM? 😛

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
I keep hearing that...

Why is there a law against stabbing an Eternal??

Stabbing him shouldn't have done what it did to him.

Originally posted by bigbran
Stabbing him shouldn't have done what it did to him.

Well, we only saw Ikaris hurt for like a second or two.

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
Well, we only saw Ikaris hurt for like a second or two.

Originally posted by bigbran
He was hurt for like 3 pages... to my memory...

Here are the three pages, I think you speak of.

As we see Ikaris stabbed, he gets up afterwards and fires his laser beam.

Now, in the last panel, I don't see a stab wound anywhere. So obviously he has healed from it.

Ikaris crashed into Earth... so of course he's going to be hurt there.

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
Here are the three pages, I think you speak of.

As we see Ikaris stabbed, he gets up afterwards and fires his laser beam.

Now, in the last panel, I don't see a stab wound anywhere. So obviously he has healed from it.

Ikaris crashed into Earth... so of course he's going to be hurt there.

Also, he was obviously hurt, if he can't redirect his flight path into Earth...

Originally posted by bigbran
How many times if Apoc going to be able to dodge these eyebeams?

I have that comic... horrible fight, I mean... stabbing an Eternal? You should have just showed the first page...

Why in the hell would MM need to transform into a gun?
Like I said, he uses his control more effective than Apoc.
http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla81eu2sy.jpg

Physical powers?
You mean something like this?
http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=japan59bu1ok.jpg

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Apocalypse fighting the eternal, what comic is that?

New Eternals: Apocalypse Now.

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
New Eternals: Apocalypse Now.

Martian Manhunter most likely wins. Sorry Trickster

Originally posted by Redatom65
Martian Manhunter most likely wins. Sorry Trickster

FANBOY!!!

Ok your right, I just like randomly shouting "FANBOY!"

Your a mongoose. it's what you do best

Ok, ok. At this point, even I have to concede J'onn can beat Apocalypse. 6/10 favoring J'onn. At least until I get more good scans of Apoc.

And btw, his molecular control IS NOT equal to Apoc's.

http://groups.msn.com/ultimatespidermanonlinecomic/sf014.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=35652
http://groups.msn.com/ultimatespidermanonlinecomic/sf014.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=35653

As you can see, his 'molecular control' can be disrupted.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ok, ok. At this point, even I have to concede J'onn can beat Apocalypse. 6/10 favoring J'onn. At least until I get more good scans of Apoc.

And btw, his molecular control IS NOT equal to Apoc's.

http://groups.msn.com/ultimatespidermanonlinecomic/sf014.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=35652
http://groups.msn.com/ultimatespidermanonlinecomic/sf014.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=35653

As you can see, his 'molecular control' can be disrupted.

What does that prove exactly?

Jonn was lit on fire first so that showing proves that a greatly weakened Jonn can be affected,plus that batch was also going to be used on Plasticman,don't tell me you think Apoc has better control then Plas.

Oh,and Ash,show me some bad showings of Apocalypse 😈

Incidentally a Jonn who wasn't weakened by fire was able to work a 833rd century virius out of his system,so again Apoc's superiority isn't proved....

Originally posted by Martian_mind
What does that prove exactly?

Jonn was lit on fire first so that showing proves that a greatly weakened Jonn can be affected,plus that batch was also going to be used on Plasticman,don't tell me you think Apoc has better control then Plas.

Oh,and Ash,show me some bad showings of Apocalypse 😈

Incidentally a Jonn who wasn't weakened by fire was able to work a 833rd century virius out of his system,so again Apoc's superiority isn't proved....

I give Apoc 5/10 🙂

Originally posted by Martian_mind
What does that prove exactly?

Jonn was lit on fire first so that showing proves that a greatly weakened Jonn can be affected,plus that batch was also going to be used on Plasticman,don't tell me you think Apoc has better control then Plas.

Oh,and Ash,show me some bad showings of Apocalypse 😈

Incidentally a Jonn who wasn't weakened by fire was able to work a 833rd century virius out of his system,so again Apoc's superiority isn't proved....

Jonn's shapeshifting didn't help him stop him from being infected by nanites.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Jonn's shapeshifting didn't help him stop him from being infected by nanites.

What?

Do you mean tower of Babel?that's because they ste him aflame and he lost control of his power.

He was able to purge a virius from the 853rd century from his system with his control when he wasn't aflame.

APOC....APOC has fought and pwned lesser oppnents who could slaughter MM( living monilith)

Originally posted by swerve1988
APOC....APOC has fought and pwned lesser oppnents who could slaughter MM( living monilith)

I agree. This is just ridiculous, there is no way MM could stand a chance against Apocalypse.