Originally posted by HandOfFate
Agreed, I have no problem with Storm little feat here.I did find it interesting that Storm was able to create an atmoshere in the vacuum of space.
I suspect that the Surfer was holding back when he attacked them.
I wanted to see more of an exhange between those two. Once again being on a team is screwing over Storm.
I hated the part where she ask BP what he thought of her attack 😘
Originally posted by HandOfFate
Agreed, I have no problem with Storm little feat here.I did find it interesting that Storm was able to create an atmoshere in the vacuum of space.
Niether do I, wouldn't Epoch being a heavenly body an all have his own atmosphere. She's an atmokinetic and pulled in stray H2 atoms...must have have gotten it from somewhere.
Or not.
http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2000/DaWeiCai.shtml
"The interstellar medium is mainly made of lone hydrogen atoms. They do not even exist as pairs as they do on earth. I mentioned before that space is filled with hydrogen atoms. The actual density of hydrogen as it exist in interstellar space is on the average of about 1 atom per cubic centimeter. In the extremes, as low as 0.1 atom per cubic centimeter has been found in the space between the spiral arms and as high as 1000 atoms per cubic centimeter are known to exist near the galactic core."
Originally posted by 2damnloud
Yea, you misrepresented my stance and was arguing the GC being a one-time feat thus inadmissable according to forum rules. I then stated instances and brought up scans of Storm manipulating the EM spectrum ASIDE FROM the GC, You continued to misrepresent and harp on the GC core being a one-time feat.
The fact of the matter remains, this is the third time it seems you've missed the point. I'm not arguing that she can't manipulate EM energy. It seems like doing that on a subconscious level is the entire basis of her power. I'm arguing that she's only possibly manipulated that AMOUNT of energy once. Nothing else has even come close.
Magneto's never generated enough power to create a wormhole before so I consider THAT a one time feat as well. The blood holds, however, Magneto uses a bunch. He may even use it on himself to levitate but that could be gravity manipulation. Neither of us knows how he gets the power to do it but it's well established that he can do that whenever he feels like.
Surfer... well, he has the deus ex machina, Power Cosmic, he has much more leeway.
I asked for a number of times when both Polaris AND Magneto have maniped hemoglobin diamagnetism. Someone respeonded, except the rules changed and now POWER LEVEL dictates admissablility of feats and not consistentcy.
I brought up thoses scans and isntances ASIDE from the GC to show that Storm can manipulate Electricity and Electromagnetic energy in high yields, thus if "well-written" she can counter Magneto's or Polaris' energy.
Polaris sill would die at the hands of Storm with ease😐
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Umm... how can I misrepresent your stance you're the one attempting to counter my point? I wasn't talking about anything you said.The fact of the matter remains, this is the third time it seems you've missed the point. I'm not arguing that she can't manipulate EM energy. It seems like doing that on a subconscious level is the entire basis of her power. I'm arguing that she's only possibly manipulated that AMOUNT of energy once. Nothing else has even come close.
Magneto's never generated enough power to create a wormhole before so I consider THAT a one time feat as well. The blood holds, however, Magneto uses a bunch. He may even use it on himself to levitate but that could be gravity manipulation. Neither of us knows how he gets the power to do it but it's well established that he can do that whenever he feels like.
Surfer... well, he has the deus ex machina, Power Cosmic, he has much more leeway.
Someone else said that.
This doesn't really concern you calling me out on saying the galactic core was a one time feat.
I don't really care about this part. As far as I know, Polaris is Magneto except you sacrifice power for crazy and knockers. Anyone's welcome to say she railgun's Storm with Magneto's hat that she wore once. I really don't care enough about her to defend her.
And Yet you STILL harp on it 😘
Anyway, Magneto and Polaris may win at the total supsension of Storm's powerset.
She has shown the ability, unaided by tech, to manipulate HUGE amounts of Electromagnetic energy and miniscule sub-atomic particles.
No definitive number of times that Polaris and Magneto manipulating hemoglobin or diamagnetism has been given so..
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Are you even aware of what I'm talking about?
Of course.
You keep saying "OOOH the GC was one time for that amount"
You neglect Shaman's blizzard where she taped into the electrical potential of the earth itself and channeled the storm in herself to calm it, where she redirected Magneto's own energy, where she taped into Gamma radition to create COSMIC level turbulence, The fact that she can control the flow of Electrons, the fact that she can attune herself to an entire alien planet and gain control over it's entrie atmosphere, cause atoms in the air to electromagnetically orient themselves into an intricate article of clothing, focucs the electrical energy of an entire storm into one blast, fly on and control solar winds, tapping into the zero-point energy in vaccuous space to create lightinig, use an electric current to cause water to become oxygen while three other X-men were in the water unharmed, dipersing Blitkrieg's Electrical cage with a mere thought etc. etc.
Magneto and Polaris are certainly more powerful with the magnetic portion of the spectrum, but C'MON. Storm has certainly proven herself with the electrical portion and other parts of the spectrum as well. Magnetism does not exist without the movements of charged particles and fields don't exist without the alignement of atoms and electrons. Guess what Storm can control 😱
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/2933/energyworld2io.jpg
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/7523/energyworld24lq.jpg
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/2884/energyworld36ga.jpg
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/5931/energyworld42xc.jpg
*sight* The wonders of SUSPENDED powerset.🙄
And again, you show your bias by suggesting that Magneto can somehow manipulate gravity to afford him his levitating/flying abilities. Magneto has "reversed" gravity ONCE, he is NOT the UFT(THEORY).
Originally posted by 2damnloud
Of course.You keep saying "OOOH the GC was one time for that amount"
You neglect Shaman's blizzard where she taped into the electrical potential of the earth itself and channeled the storm in herself to calm it, where she redirected Magneto's own energy, where she taped into Gamma radition to create COSMIC level turbulence, The fact that she can control the flow of Electrons, the fact that she can attune herself to an entire alien planet and gain control over it's entrie atmosphere, cause atoms in the air to electromagnetically orient themselves into an intricate article of clothing, focucs the electrical energy of an entire storm into one blast, fly on and control solar winds, tapping into the zero-point energy in vaccuous space to create lightinig, use an electric current to cause water to become oxygen while three other X-men were in the water unharmed, dipersing Blitkrieg's Electrical cage with a mere thought etc. etc.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Nothing else has even come close.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Also, you're reaching for the stars on that zero point energy nonsense. Storm has never been anywhere near true, absolutely empty space.
Nope, I'm not. The scan said emptys pace. In true absolute empty space, NOTHING would exist.
Stop reaching. 😘
Her powers are enough to nullify his without huge displays of power such as a GC every five minutes.
Magneto's high feats are shit compared to hers. Her powerset allows her to do more with higher yields of power that just so happen to be apart to the EM spectrum.
Storm has also shown seemingly more control over atomic and sub-atomic particles.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
Nope, I'm not. The scan said emptys pace. In true absolute empty space, NOTHING would exist.Stop reaching. 😘
Her powers are enough to nullify his without huge displays of power such as a GC every five minutes.Magneto's high feats are shit compared to hers. Her powerset allows her to do more with higher yields of power that just so happen to be apart to the EM spectrum.
Storm has also shown seemingly more control over atomic and sub-atomic particles.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I'm barely moving a finger. Outer space is chock full of EM radiation and that's exactly what was at her disposal in every single instance she's been in space. Empty space obviously meant whatever space that isn't being taken up by matter. An empty space. Granted, outer space isn't completely empty, but it's pretty close.
It said "empty space" that's it.😐
Ouline the difference between "empty" and "outer" space.
