Originally posted by celestialdemon
Wow. Your first point states even though the blood trick works, it will always ben PIS because it shouldn't work. Your very next point says because Storm can do the galactic core trick on panel, it's canon therefore my opinion doesn't matter. Talk about biased.Again, if Storm said she was going to break her vow for Magneto, why is he still alive? Why is she still holding back?
I'm not proposing anything. I'm going by what I've seen in comic books. Magneto has always been portrayed as superior to Storm. Obviously he wouldn't be if the writers didn't want him that way. Also, Magneto isn't the only one Storm loses to. She's lost to a lot of people before. If she's as powerful as you claim, that shouldn't happen.
Not every battle with her losing can be PIS.
1) You are using the "straw man" argument that 2Loud is so fond of pointing out as a tactic you and yours frequently employ. I said the iron on the blood is a power that he should have, but Storm should be immune to it as her abilities nullify its effectiveness on her in a negative way. Indeed, it should only empower her unless she chooses to chanel it. If you pit Magneto against Cyclops or Jean Grey, then the iron-in-the-blood trick should be VERY effective in eleminating them in combat.
The galactic core thing works as its part of Storm's power set given to her in canon. Magneto can manipulate the iron in one's blood as this has been given to him in canon. However, also given in canon to Storm are abilities that would nullify Magneto's iron in blood manipulations to harm her. I am not saying to take any aspect of Magneto's powers from him. I say give them to him. However, give Storm her full credit as well. Given this, her abilities nullify the effectiveness of his abilities in a way that works advantageous for him.
This was all very clear from my initial post. You intentionally misrepresented what I stated as my point is logically irrefutable.
2) Storm held back against Magneto because she saw that he did not kill Kitty. When she made that comment, she was fearful that Magneto would kill the X-Men including Kitty whom she saw as her "daughter".
3) Canon actually shows that Storm is stronger than Magneto and he only wins because she holds back when the two exchange blows.
As I said, Storm's powers are blatantly sufficient thus her powerlevel enables her to repeat feats.
Storm's First Limited Series #2
These scans give us great insight into how her powers work.
She now alters her percetion to view the Alien Planet's weather as patterns of energy
Follow up😊
She taps into the GC just as simply as she draws energy from the Earth to manipulate the weather.
As we see in this scan, the Galactic Core is to here millions of Suns and LIVING STARS and LIVING WORLDS
I'll be back with more😊
Originally posted by Rutog98
I don't think that's it. I think they simply have a problem with the character being as powerful as she is. They don't like it and want to force what they want on this character. It seems to be something they reserve for Storm only. It doesn't matter what canon states. They will bend forum rules and canon and everything to try and avoid giving the character her due. 🙄
I don't have a problem with the powers Storm currently has. It is all her FP extrapolated powers that I have a problem with.
There is no way for me to prove she won't ever have them, but you and 2damnloud cannot prove she can either. Its just a matter of what you want to believe.
As of right now there is not enough evidence for me to believe she will ever be written to the FP 2damnloud wants to see.
Just remember there is nothing cannon hinting Storm to be what 2damnloud claims a FP can become.
BTW I can't give Storm her due with Surfer cause there were so many things that were wrong in that showing, Surfer was written to forget most of his powers. If written correctly Surfer would just have raped the FF, Storm, and BP.
Originally posted by bean_machine
I don't have a problem with the powers Storm currently has. It is all her FP extrapolated powers that I have a problem with.There is no way for me to prove she won't ever have them, but you and 2damnloud cannot prove she can either. Its just a matter of what you want to believe.
As of right now there is not enough evidence for me to believe she will ever be written to the FP 2damnloud wants to see.
Just remember there is nothing cannon hinting Storm to be what 2damnloud claims a FP can become.
BTW I can't give Storm her due with Surfer cause there were so many things that were wrong in that showing, Surfer was written to forget most of his powers. If written correctly Surfer would just have raped the FF, Storm, and BP.
I was speaking in regards to the Storm/Magneto stuff. I don't see how anybody can say Magneto can beat her without PIS.
Originally posted by bean_machine
BTW I can't give Storm her due with Surfer cause there were so many things that were wrong in that showing, Surfer was written to forget most of his powers. If written correctly Surfer would just have raped the FF, Storm, and BP.
The same can be said for Storm vs Polaris or Magneto.
Btw, what would be the "hint" you're looking for?
And again, I ask what hinted at the Phoenix entity, and better still, what hinted at JEAN'S relationship with said entity BEFORE it happened??
Did Jean have any continuity for TK god-hood??
Does Storm have any continuity for spiritual, physical, and mental attunement to the eneviroment on a subatomic level?? I proposed this same power for Storm's ultimate FP with no limitations of scope. It would ultimately be God-hod with regard to her powerset in my opinion.
She's atomokenetic, she would just be atmokenetic with 0.000000 limitations of physical body and 0.00000000 limitations with reagrd the scope.
All this notwithsanding that she was actually WORSHIPED as Goddess for her mutant powers which could potentially prime her for literal God-hood and foster the certain Goddess-like qualities she has.
I've never asserted this to be her PRESENT STATE. Stop arguing that, it's Straw man territory. 😘
It is purely my opinion of what I believe her FP would/should be if written.
Originally posted by bean_machine
I don't have a problem with the powers Storm currently has. It is all her FP extrapolated powers that I have a problem with.There is no way for me to prove she won't ever have them, but you and 2damnloud cannot prove she can either. Its just a matter of what you want to believe.
As of right now there is not enough evidence for me to believe she will ever be written to the FP 2damnloud wants to see.
Just remember there is nothing cannon hinting Storm to be what 2damnloud claims a FP can become.
So you agree with Storm beating Magneto?
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Actually, now I don't know if he's being sarcastic or not.
Polaris could put up shield....... maybe. It may be to no avail. The solar winds are quite powerful. I don't know if she could handle and onslaught from Storm in an Intergalactic enviroment. 😕
You saw what she did to Surfer huh? He was like "AHHHHHH" for a moment.😖hifty:😎
Originally posted by 2damnloud
Polaris could put up shield....... maybe. It may be to no avail. The solar winds are quite powerful. I don't know if she could handle and onslaught from Storm in an Intergalactic enviroment. 😕You saw what she did to Surfer huh? He was like "AHHHHHH" for a moment.😖hifty:😎
Solar wind blowing something somewhere? It's not really wind, it's like fire. If you tried to blow something away with solar wind and it wasn't protected in some way it'd be burned up, not get pushed along like a sailboat or something.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Ehh... I think you missed the point, unsurprisingly.Solar wind blowing something somewhere? It's not really wind, it's like fire. If you tried to blow something away with solar wind and it wasn't protected in some way it'd be burned up, not get pushed along like a sailboat or something.
I KNOOOOOOW. 🙄
Did I meantion that it was actual air anywhere in my post??
Originally posted by 2damnloud
I've never asserted this to be her PRESENT STATE. Stop arguing that, it's Straw man territory. 😘It is purely my opinion of what I believe her FP would/should be if written.
I am not claiming that you are claiming a FP Storm in her current state. I am just saying that it seems unlikely Storm will ever reach omniversality. That is it, nothing more. PF is not even close to omniversality and it also seems unlikely PF ever will. Its a big powerboost to omniveresality and it just seems very unlikely.
Originally posted by bean_machine
I am not claiming that you are claiming a FP Storm in her current state. I am just saying that it seems unlikely Storm will ever reach omniversality. That is it, nothing more. PF is not even close to omniversality and it also seems unlikely PF ever will. Its a big powerboost to omniveresality and it just seems very unlikely.
Think of it as "Ororo Prime" 😆
