Differentiating between PIS and 'IDLI,IDH'

Started by Newjak7 pages

Originally posted by batdude123
What? Do you know that much about Magneto? 😕 He doesn't just control metal, you know. That seems to be the popular assumption here.
Well seeing as I did watch your match yes I know exactly what Mags can do 😉

Hence he shouldn't be over Iron Man level by too much 😛

Originally posted by Newjak
Well seeing as I did watch your match yes I know exactly what Mags can do 😉

Hence he shouldn't be over Iron Man level by too much 😛

We didn't even mention a quarter of the things Magneto can do. You can't judge one's power level on a few scans. That's hardly fair. How many "mid" tier level characters play around with subatomic particles like nothing?

http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?image=classicxmen1909lm4.jpg

Or manipulate the Earth's magnetic field to inhibit all long ranged telepathy?

http://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?image=classicxmen1911tg4.jpg

I'd say he's above Iron Man by quite a bit. 🙄

Jobbing is seperate from PIS in that PIS is stupidity used to further the plot, while jobbing is a term for when a character is affecting/beating another character who is way beyond their power level because the former character is a cash cow, typically.

PIS: Strange being taken out by Hiler's gun
Jobbing: Batman kicking Spectre
WB (Writer's Bias): Daredevil taking out Wolverine with a throat-shot

Originally posted by batdude123
We didn't even mention a quarter of the things Magneto can do. You can't judge one's power level on a few scans. That's hardly fair. How many "mid" tier level characters play around with subatomic particles like nothing?

http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?image=classicxmen1909lm4.jpg

Or manipulate the Earth's magnetic field to inhibit all long ranged telepathy?

http://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?image=classicxmen1911tg4.jpg

I'd say he's above Iron Man by quite a bit. 🙄

You know BD for some strange reason I doubt you held back his best feats 😉

Secondly the first scan isn't very impressive at all. I could point out that people like Radioactive Man and Crystal all could do similar things and they were all allowed into the Iron Man levle tourny

The last one is even less impressive. For one it doesn't say that he effected the entire Earth it seems more like he sheilded the area around them. He even mentions that he did it slwoly and didn't he have the help of some machines as was pointed out in the trounry 😉

Facr it BD I know you got a hard on for Mags in your tourny matches but he isn't nearly as powerful as one would think. 😛

Hulk losing EVER is PIS, BS, CSI, ABC, HBO, MADD, WWE, MTV....

Originally posted by Badabing
Hulk losing EVER is PIS, BS, CSI, ABC, HBO, MADD, WWE, MTV....
You forgot ESPN 😛

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Jobbing is seperate from PIS in that PIS is stupidity used to further the plot, while jobbing is a term for when a character is affecting/beating another character who is way beyond their power level because the former character is a cash cow, typically.

PIS: Strange being taken out by Hiler's gun
Jobbing: Batman kicking Spectre
WB (Writer's Bias): Daredevil taking out Wolverine with a throat-shot

Um, that first example doesn't work. Turns out that gun is ludicrously powerful. nosweat

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=440414&highlight=hitler+gun

Even LP admits that one may not be PIS.......

Originally posted by Newjak
You forgot ESPN 😛
You're right! 😆

I always thought that CIS would be something like:

Batman fights Bane... he begins to win... as bane is about to take the final hit, batman turns around, not wanting to fight anymore because it's not in his nature to kill... bane gets up, grabs batman and cracks batman's back on his knee........again.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Um, that first example doesn't work. Turns out that gun is ludicrously powerful. nosweat

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=440414&highlight=hitler+gun

Even LP admits that one may not be PIS.......

The gun beat Strange because "It's evil aura was too much for Strange to combat"

Dr. Strange... the Dr. Strange who has faced the likes of Mephisto...

Originally posted by Newjak
So Common Sense has got to play a factor. You know you have to look at powersets realize what someone with said power set can truely accomplish along with the feats.

And that is where KMC is kind of falling apart. We are using to many feats without first taking a look back at the power sets using them and limits they have shown before.

i totally agree with this... a character has a defined power set for years, and some idiot writer comes in and completely ignores it just so he can write the comic he wants to, making a character do something they shouldnt be able to...

Originally posted by pr1983
i totally agree with this... a character has a defined power set for years, and some idiot writer comes in and completely ignores it just so he can write the comic he wants to, making a character do something they shouldnt be able to...
Exactly and not only that but writers will come in and completely do things with a character that is past their power set.

Originally posted by Newjak
Exactly and not only that but writers will come in and completely do things with a character that is past their power set.

and then we have to put up with this one feat being vehemently defended in the vs forum, even though its complete lunacy...

Originally posted by pr1983
and then we have to put up with this one feat being vehemently defended in the vs forum, even though its complete lunacy...
I know what you mean. Then of course everyone starts to bust out everyone's one time super duper feat

and Logic and Common Sense cry in the background cryoh

😛

Originally posted by Newjak
I know what you mean. Then of course everyone starts to bust out everyone's one time super duper feat

and Logic and Common Sense cry in the background cryoh

😛

at least they have each other...

Originally posted by pr1983
at least they have each other...
That is true 😆

Originally posted by Newjak
That is true 😆

yeah... the lack of writers who stick to the characters written histories can be a bit worrying at times though...

Originally posted by pr1983
yeah... the lack of writers who stick to the characters written histories can be a bit worrying at times though...
I know what you mean and it isn't even that they know every single bit of it. I don't expect anyone to know that what worries me is when wrriters completey disregard any kind of contintuity simply for sake of making them fit in the story they wrote.

Originally posted by Newjak
I know what you mean and it isn't even that they know every single bit of it. I don't expect anyone to know that what worries me is when wrriters completey disregard any kind of contintuity simply for sake of making them fit in the story they wrote.

and it seems to get more and more common nowadays, though there are a few writers who do seem to follow established continuity, which is nice...

Originally posted by pr1983
and it seems to get more and more common nowadays, though there are a few writers who do seem to follow established continuity, which is nice...
I know to me when a character jumps around so many stories from one plot need to another I find myself not very interested in them. To me a character like that looses depth to them.