With IF technique Danny takes it. Without IF technique its a toss up.
Batman has moved trees with kicks and can put his hand through bricks easily. One of his feats had him kick down a door designed to take a cruise missile. He has also one shotted Croc among other feats. Batman like Danny has stalemated the best MA fighters in his verse.
On speed, Ironfist is fast but he is no Spiderman, nor is Batman of course. Especially considering characters without "Dragon enhanced chi" such as Daredevil/Batgirl also have speed feats like Ironfist or equivelent.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
With IF technique Danny takes it. Without IF technique its a toss up.Batman has moved trees with kicks and can put his hand through bricks easily. One of his feats had him kick down a door designed to take a cruise missile. He has also one shotted Croc among other feats. Batman like Danny has stalemated the best MA fighters in his verse.
On speed, Ironfist is fast but he is no Spiderman, nor is Batman of course. Especially considering characters without "Dragon enhanced chi" such as Daredevil/Batgirl also have speed feats like Ironfist or equivelent.
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Originally posted by tkitna
I think Batman has mastered more forms of combat and would win if Danny didnt use the Chi.I see Batman as maybe a hair behind Cap in fighting ability and I see Cap as being better than Danny for sure, so,,,,
Batman 6/10 without Danny using the IF.
Doesn't matter how many styles you master, that Doesn't make you a great fighter only more knowledgeable, and knowledge Doesn't just grant you a win.
It how you effective you employ what you know, along with tactful thinking and countering, which IMO batman outclasses fist. So in a way I agree with you, but not how you imply it.
However, I only voted for Iron fist because of his Iron fist attack, which batman would have no answer for in H2H.
If there were no chi amping, I believe Batman would take it.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
Doesn't matter how many styles you master, that Doesn't make you a great fighter only more knowledgeable, and knowledge Doesn't just grant you a win.It how you effective you employ what you know, along with tactful thinking and countering, which IMO batman outclasses fist. So in a way I agree with you, but not how you imply it.
However, I only voted for Iron fist because of his Iron fist attack, which batman would have no answer for in H2H.
If there were no chi amping, I believe Batman would take it.
I agree with what your saying, but i'm stating my opinion in the same fashion as how Captain America told Danny he was good, but he was nowhere good enough to beat him and I think Danny is a better martial artist than Cap. I'm leaning towards Batman being the same as Cap in that context.