Iron Fist Vs Batman H2H

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
subsequent to that, he's now faster and stronger.

So is Danny, I believe (I haven't read Iron Fist in a while).

From a Respect Thread:

"A couple years back, Danny was given an even bigger upgrade when he absorbed the energy of a previous Iron Fist, and was said to have his sense of self increased 10,000 fold and his powers posses infinite depth. He also is able to manipulate his chi into concussive blasts.

Some Feats:

Taking down a kinetic energy eating monster by taking out it's Achilles Tendon.

Eliminating an opponent before the bullet can leave the gun's barrel.

Destroying a train with enough raw explosives to, "make Hiroshima look like a sparkler". He also absorbs some of the kinetic energy of the blast.

Through simulations, takes out Spider-Man, Wolverine, and Captain America. (He gets the surprise attack on Spider-Man, but the feat is still impressive).

With one punch, takes out a Helicarrier."

Link here:
https://www.google.co.za/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/203b9t/respect_iron_fist/

Oh no, I meant AFTER he took the hits from WW (without his armour) he was subsequently made stronger and faster.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh no, I meant AFTER he took the hits from WW (without his armour) he was subsequently made stronger and faster.

Oh, I wasn't arguing with you. 😛

Just pointing out that Danny got some upgrades too, from what I understand.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And took surprise hits from a bloodlusted GoW Amped Wonder Woman, whilst injured and half naked.

subsequent to that, he's now faster and stronger.

And dodged HV from a bloodlusted Superman AFTER it was fired.

That would make him fast as Flash.

I hate to call PIS foul on anything, but just saying, that would make him Val Arnorr or Wally West.

Which he may well be at now, depends on if those kinds of feats stick.

Too true.

Does Danny have h2h feats with heralds too, then? Taking their blows, fighting others, and dodging attacks?

@cdtm I call PIS on it too, but its Batsy, he's chock full of PIS. Hence why he's a better match for Cap.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Too true.

Does Danny have h2h feats with heralds too, then? Taking their blows, fighting others, and dodging attacks?

Early days, he landed a good kick on a speedster. Impossible to say exactly how fast he was, but his powers aged him in short order.

Also KO'd Bres, a one shot character from Avengers best known for manhandling Thor and getting KO'd by weakness exploit (Iron Man's "Iron"😉.

Not really as impressive as hanging with f'n Superman or Wonder Woman, but it's something.

Oh, and The Living Weapon series gets a bit crazy.

I hated it for all the SJW content, but he brought a skyscraper to life there and piloted it like a mech to fight a giant flame monster that was sucking souls from New York/The Earth (In Marvel, aren't they the same thing? 🙂 )

And then amped himself up even more and just flew at the creature and punched it, way up in the skyline.

He was amped, but it was implied the final amp stuck (Which it clearly did not looking at Power Man and Iron Fist.)

Bottom line, the series was written by a Canadian SJW who must have been smoking some really good stuff.

Just posting the link here for reference purposes.

Iron Fist Revamped Respect Thread

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=554998&pagenumber=2

Wolverine is near Batman level, above Black Panther and IF.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe

Wolverine is near Batman level, above Black Panther and IF.

Originally posted by Dreampanther
First, your scans: Again your own scans prove you a liar. In that same issue, Cap remarks on the fact that Danny is pulling his punches, even though he doesn't know why. And that backhand from Danny that Cap catches on his shield, which is supposed to absorb kinetic energy, still sends Cap flying through a wall.

A)Iron Fist isn't "pulling his punches". He is even surprised that Captain America is able to roll with the blows.

"Pulling the punches" doesn't reduce the skill, unfortunately this argument is invalid.

Would you like me to post those scans?

You failed to provide evidence by posting irrelevancies so far...

Next, your claims/statements.

1) So is yours.

I presented evidence for everything so that's my opinion.

2) Proof?

I already posted multiples examples of Batman one-shotting superhuman with light touches, Danny has nothing on that order.

3) So now we have moved from "paralysed and disabled" to "affected". Lol. Just call it what it was: Startled.

I compared the effects of the attacks that both did to the Hulk.

Danny did nothing.

Batman provoked an involuntary reflexes.

That means that Batman's skills are superior to Danny as it have been demonstrated many times in that thread.

4) So now catching bullets has somehow become avoiding projectiles?

That's on the same order, an irrelevancy.

That's a typical red herring from someone whom is trying to avoid posting hand-to-hand feats which are asked in that thread.

I must confess, I am very impressed by your ability to look at a scan, completely ignore what is there and state with complete confidence that it means something else.

You must confess that you are borrowing the account of a friend because if nobody noticed I know who you are. After the irrelevancies, the personal attacks.

There is a huge difference between dodging bullets and catching them, a feat Batman has never even attempted. For good reason. He can't do it. Because he's not in Danny's class.

There is something that they have in common.

None of those feats are relevant to that thread.

Now, if you have no relevant feats to add to that thread please restrain responding to me again.

You obviously want to spam irrelevancies and I'm not interested in reading them again.

Don't forget batman two shooting grundy who just a few seconds earlier was taking on Gotham and Gotham girl at the same time and getting the better of them. When it comes to high showing feats it's not even close

Or Bats taking hits from, then KOing Brute. The guy who OHKOs Wonder Woman.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Don't forget batman two shooting grundy who just a few seconds earlier was taking on Gotham and Gotham girl at the same time and getting the better of them. When it comes to high showing feats it's not even close

+1

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Or Bats taking hits from, then KOing Brute. The guy who OHKOs Wonder Woman.

+1

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I'm seconding you on this guys.

There's a difference between them listing feats and condoning them. 😛

Even if every single one believes Bruce wins, I'm reasonably certain they wouldn't be arguing he beats down, say, Spidey... Which Bruce's highs certainly make a possibility, even against Firelord..

Originally posted by cdtm
There's a difference between them listing feats and condoning them. 😛

Even if every single one believes Bruce wins, I'm reasonably certain they wouldn't be arguing he beats down, say, Spidey... Which Bruce's highs certainly make a possibility, even against Firelord..

Spidey had his superhuman physicals, limited precog, superior agility, "unpredictable" acrobatic fighting style and his vastly superior striking power against Firelord.

Batman and Iron Fist are close when it comes to the physicals stats so the hand-to-hand skills are discussed.

As you said yourself, he's enhanced normal.

Pretty much always amping himself with chi, and before pulling out the Iron Fist. (Same with Shang Chi.)

Originally posted by cdtm
As you said yourself, he's enhanced normal.

Nope.

It is a big misconception.

Danny is an athlete in normal and by athlete Marvel means the competitive Olympic athlete.

I think that the vast majority of people backing-up Danny doesn't understand how his abilities work.

That's probably comes from an ignorance of basics in martial arts legends and stuff like that.

Pretty much always amping himself with chi, and before pulling out the Iron Fist. (Same with Shang Chi.)

When Danny focus his own Chi then he becomes a peak human and what Marvel think as a peak human is the kind that outclasses Olympic athletes by a vast margin.

The only stat that Danny rise to enhanced human level by focusing his own Chi is his durability. Here we have Marvel's representation of the Shaolin Monks "STEEL SHIRT TECHNIQUE.

The Chi of Shou-Lao have other purposes like enhancing Danny's striking power to superhuman-level by making his hand superhumanly durable.

Originally posted by cdtm
That would make him fast as Flash.

I hate to call PIS foul on anything, but just saying, that would make him Val Arnorr or Wally West.

Which he may well be at now, depends on if those kinds of feats stick.

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Originally posted by RealityWarper
Nope.

It is a big misconception.

[B]Danny is an athlete in normal and by athlete Marvel means the competitive Olympic athlete.

I think that the vast majority of people backing-up Danny doesn't understand how his abilities work.

That's probably comes from an ignorance of basics in martial arts legends and stuff like that.

When Danny focus his own Chi then he becomes a peak human and what Marvel think as a peak human is the kind that outclasses Olympic athletes by a vast margin.

The only stat that Danny rise to enhanced human level by focusing his own Chi is his durability. Here we have Marvel's representation of the Shaolin Monks "STEEL SHIRT TECHNIQUE.

The Chi of Shou-Lao have other purposes like enhancing Danny's striking power to superhuman-level by making his hand superhumanly durable. [/B]

If his speed isn't enhanced, how do you explain catching a sniper round at point blank range? (Sniper guns tend to be more powerful then small arms, and thus faster.)