Originally posted by Tha C-Master
1. Because it isn't within a reasonable scope of his abilities and.2. He hasn't done it consistently, making it SvFL.
It's no more stupid than him beating Lobo. An entire nuke? It's not even worth arguing.
so I am sorry if you dislike it, but it is useable. I don't like spidermans whole stinger crap, but it is part of his powers and is usable evidence.
Originally posted by capt it up
see since issue 48. His powers have been stated as a type of immortality which makes that feat not s vs fl since it a stated power and it makes it completely usable.so I am sorry if you dislike it, but it is useable. I don't like spidermans whole stinger crap, but it is part of his powers and is usable evidence.
Being hit by a "nuke" isn't a power it's a feat. It has nothing to do with what his powers. And your "immortality" doesn't work how you stated it, you are switching things around. He doesn't just take any damage he wants without flinching.
It has nothing to do with disliking it, it's a crap feat. And that "nuke" feat happened before he was "immortal".
So I'm sorry if you do like it, but it's a bad feat. And Wolverine still hasn't been "stated" (since you like that term), as superhuman, not even in the most recent updates. Not in strength or speed or anything.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Being hit by a "nuke" isn't a power it's a feat. It has nothing to do with what his powers. And your "immortality" doesn't work how you stated it, you are switching things around.It has nothing to do with disliking it, it's a crap feat. And that "nuke" feat happened before he was "immortal".
So I'm sorry if you do like it, but it's a bad feat. And Wolverine still hasn't been "stated" (since you like that term), as superhuman, not even in the most recent updates. Not in strength or speed or anything.
no the immortality thing works pritty much olike I said it does.
also it does not matter that the venom on the run feat came before becuase wolverine # 48 makes the feat possiable. So yes the feat is usable. You might not like it , but it does not change the fact it a usable feat
Originally posted by capt it upNo it doesn't.
no the immortality thing works pritty much olike I said it does.also it does not matter that the venom on the run feat came before becuase wolverine # 48 makes the feat possiable. So yes the feat is usable. You might not like it , but it does not change the fact it a usable feat
And he still hasn't stood up consistently to these "napalms" or nukes. So it's still horrible.
It's no different than me using Spiderman vs. Firelord. You can use it all you want to, but it only makes you look bad. Especially if you are using "immortality" as an excuse in all of your arguments now.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
No it doesn't.And he still hasn't stood up consistently to these "napalms" or nukes. So it's still horrible.
It's no different than me using Spiderman vs. Firelord. You can use it all you want to, but it only makes you look bad. Especially if you are using "immortality" as an excuse in all of your arguments now.
it totaly different from spiderman sv firelord.
Logans power is a stated on pannel ability. It not even debatable.
so yes Logan can come back from nukes, but he also can be killed for good by them as well it really depends what happens in limbo
Originally posted by capt it upOnly if he chooses to, and that's not an unlimited amount of times.
No it completely different sicne it in wolverines power set to beable to come abck from that type of damage.it totaly different from spiderman sv firelord.
Logans power is a stated on pannel ability. It not even debatable.
so yes Logan can come back from nukes, but he also can be killed for good by them as well it really depends what happens in limbo
You're mixing a feat up with a power.
Spiderman's stingers are an ability, him beating Firelord isn't. Wolverine's "immortality" is an ability, but him taking a nuke isn't. You're using what you read way after the feat happened to justify it as a power when it isn't. It's not even a consistent part of his career. The man has been hurt by much less than that, much more often.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Only if he chooses to, and that's not an unlimited amount of times.You're mixing a feat up with a power.
Spiderman's stingers are an ability, him beating Firelord isn't. Wolverine's "immortality" is an ability, but him taking a nuke isn't. You're using what you read way after the feat happened to justify it as a power when it isn't. It's not even a consistent part of his career. The man has been hurt by much less than that, much more often.
Originally posted by capt it up
yes but it is no part of his power reconning earlier events. Yes logan can be hurt by less, but that does not mean he can't take a nuke. Logan can take a nuke and come back. You act like he can't, but he can according to his revealed power. So yes it completely differen fromt eh spiderman vs fire lord. Becuase spiderman can't beat fire lord. Wolverine can come back from a nuke.
You're missing my point.
You and I will argue all day about what is a good feat, you and I can "use" what feats we want. We can agree to disagree, but a feat isn't a power.
People will argue Spiderman vs. Firelord admissable because of how it happened, just like you will argue the "nuke". I personally don't agree with either. I can't make you agree either. Which is fine. (It really hasn't retconned his entire history nor has it bumped up his stats, you just think it should be as you stated earlier. He can't come back an unlimited amount of times, so it doesn't make up for all of his bad writing, especially if he didn't even "die". Because he can't come back in each incident).
But now that you see my point (I hope), I'm off to bed, I'm tired as shit.
Originally posted by capt it upActually... you don't know for sure that he can... because being "nuked" and being hit by a "Nuke" can EASILY be considered two seperate things regardless.
yes but it is no part of his power reconning earlier events. Yes logan can be hurt by less, but that does not mean he can't take a nuke. Logan can take a nuke and come back. You act like he can't, but he can according to his revealed power. So yes it completely differen fromt eh spiderman vs fire lord. Becuase spiderman can't beat fire lord. Wolverine can come back from a nuke.
Originally posted by Disappear
the debate over the "nuke" went on for like, twenty pages, capt. there's no proof it was a nuke, and there's not much proof that it wasnt. please stop bringing it up like you referencing it again makes it so.
I don't know why people keep saying crap like this I posted a DIRECT QUOTE from the damned book where they call it a tactical nuclear device. 😬 it was a nuke.
Originally posted by Rick/Genis
Actually... you don't know for sure that he can... because being "nuked" and being hit by a "Nuke" can EASILY be considered two seperate things regardless.
when the smoke cleared the crater indicates that wolverine got nuked at ground zero...
not to mention that the bomb is 2 feet away from him heading in his direction immediately before it detonated.
I can see where maybe Loagan's skeleton would be across the country
But him surviving a nuke is not pis-why exactly would it be?
Among some of the views on his regeneration(if you dont agree with his immortality) one i have talked about with others(before issue #48) is,if his adamantium skeleton survives he has DNA in his bones and it will enable him to regenerate
Now if we see him get his Adamantium skeleton destroyed and he is totaly gone,and he then regenerates well i might debate the issue,i say might because of issue 48
If his adamantium regenerates well that is another matter
any sort of bomb can leave a crater, especially in the wilderness. a nuke cannot possibly leave a ten-foot crater with intact vegetation and a frickin' sign maybe another ten feet from the crater itself. if you still have the scan, i'll gladly see it. and if you're right, i'll concede the point to bad writing. but simply saying that it's a nuke doesn't counteract that the art of the issue itself says otherwise.
Originally posted by Disappear
any sort of bomb can leave a crater, especially in the wilderness. a nuke cannot possibly leave a ten-foot crater with intact vegetation and a frickin' sign maybe another ten feet from the crater itself. if you still have the scan, i'll gladly see it. and if you're right, i'll concede the point to bad writing. but simply saying that it's a nuke doesn't counteract that the art of the issue itself says otherwise.
And thus ends the debate.
CASE CLOSED!
Originally posted by jinzinHe's right. There's a difference between Plot-Induced-Stupidity and plain stupid bullshit.
when the smoke cleared the crater indicates that wolverine got nuked at ground zero...not to mention that the bomb is 2 feet away from him heading in his direction immediately before it detonated.