Well, with the new ability shown in the comics, Wolverine can apparently return from death. Not because of a power but something spiritual. The ability to return from death is not, as clearly shown in the comic, because of some power. Maybe he's Death's favorite or something. Or some other entity. It's not like he is alone in that, Thanos (with Death), Namor (with Neptune), Mr. Immortal (with Deathurge), Deadpool (with Thanos) are all immortals in pretty same way. Whenever they have died, they are brought back. Or don't die at all. Not because of some power but because of an connection to something more powerful.
So yeah, I think that he can survive a nuke...not by durability but because something brings him back.
That first nuke feat was retarded though. Come on, he still had pants left.
Originally posted by long pig
Maybe it was a really small nuke. Like, a gary coleman of nukes.And thus ends the debate.
CASE CLOSED!
Well, some nukes can detonate with less force than a ton of TNT....
I don't think a ton of TNT would leave your pants unscathed, but it could certainly be responsible for such a small blast radius and what not.
the pants thing is a rather lame arguement. It not the writers fault for what the artist draws. also any nuke or bomb or napam would destroy his pants and the whole area. The pants arguement is hard one to sue, becuase by using it you are allowing for many other feats to be written off sololy due to the art.
also they could also have been specially designed like wolverine uniform which unable it to with stand extreme tempitures and radiation.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
I thought it was Doorman that is powered by Deathurge
doorman took over for deathurge, and is "powered" by oblivion. mr. immortal is an offshoot of mutantkind who has evolved beyond death, and is essentially "powered" only by his own genetics. oblivion, and by corollary deathurge, took an interest in him since his birth due to that fact.
also, capt, you do realize that art is half of a comic book, yes? if the script said "snikt," but no claws came out, wolverine wouldn't be able to stab someone. if someone's described as a blonde, but drawn as a redhead, they're a redhead. you can't discredit half of what makes canon canon because it displeases your argument.
Originally posted by Disappear
doorman took over for deathurge, and is "powered" by oblivion. mr. immortal is an offshoot of mutantkind who has evolved beyond death, and is essentially "powered" only by his own genetics. oblivion, and by corollary deathurge, took an interest in him since his birth due to that fact.also, capt, you do realize that art is half of a comic book, yes? if the script said "snikt," but no claws came out, wolverine wouldn't be able to stab someone. if someone's described as a blonde, but drawn as a redhead, they're a redhead. you can't discredit half of what makes canon canon because it displeases your argument.
it works both ways. Just becuase wolverine has pants does not make the event pis nor does it make it bad evidence. It means the artist made a mistake. They do it a lot.
for example to say that we can not use wolverine comic as evidence because his pants were still there is like saying every hulk comic is pritty much pis, becuase hulk pants should not be able to exspand and survive the punishment that they do.
growing a few times your normal size wouldn't have nearly the same effect as being hit with a nuke, especially on pants. if the artist had wanted to establish that the bomb was a nuke, they could have used clever shadows or smoke or anything else. it was a constant theme in your much-touted issue 32, was it not? the nudity, that is.
the thing i'm hearing from your argument is that you know the artist was wrong because what they did does not agree with what you believe; but you refuse to accept that what they did might not be wrong because that would agree with what other people believe. and, since you're not the artist, i don't see where you're qualified to succinctly make that distinction.
Originally posted by Disappear
growing a few times your normal size wouldn't have nearly the same effect as being hit with a nuke, especially on pants. if the artist had wanted to establish that the bomb was a nuke, they could have used clever shadows or smoke or anything else. it was a constant theme in your much-touted issue 32, was it not? the nudity, that is.the thing i'm hearing from your argument is that you know the artist was wrong because what they did does not agree with what you believe; but you refuse to accept that what they did might not be wrong because that would agree with what other people believe. and, since you're not the artist, i don't see where you're qualified to succinctly make that distinction.
what type of bomb blows up a town yet leave wolverines pants...........honestly please I love to know of a bomb that explodes yet a persons pants are fine? You argument is sad. Your trying to disprove the type pof bomb based off wolveriens pants remaining? That does not matter sicne any bomb with that type of explosion would have destroy wolverine pants.
Also when help with it with massive waves of radiation and becmae the hulk. His pants were fine yet all else was destroy........also it si the same thing. When hulk gets hit with explosions his pants are always undamaged yet they should be destroyed. Also when panner goes from being 5 foot nothing to 11 feat his pants would be ripped in haft. The movement he makes running around would destroy his pants. The sonic bombs he causes the destruction he does would all destroy his pants and yet they remian........it must be pis. It funny your holding one stander for one character, but not another.
also by the way that type of explosion>>>>>pants, so your arguement not being a nuke is useless since well any bomb would have destroyed his pants.......
much tooted issue 32? When did I even bring up 32? You mean miller issue 32? Logan was never naked in that if I recall........he actaully never even said a line..........
black shadow cast over him the entire time. you hailed and praised that issue like it was jesus himself back when you were wolverine88888888.
my initial point was not the pants. i brought them up as counterpoint to you bringing them up. if you recall, i brought up the complete ridiculousness of the bomb that struck wolverine being a nuke due entirely to its lack of any nuclear traits. if i'm remembering the scene correctly, there was intact vegetation and a sign nearby to the crater. even if it was a so-called "low yield" nuclear device, the radiation would have spread out much farther than the crater made by the initial blast, and would have immediately blackened anything remotely alive. and everything else would be either on fire, disintegrated, or otherwise molested by the blast and radiation. there weren't trees living all free and clear near hiroshima, champ.
art is one half of a comic book. you cannot discredit it because you decide it doesn't suit your point. that's just how it is.
Originally posted by Disappear
black shadow cast over him the entire time. you hailed and praised that issue like it was jesus himself back when you were wolverine88888888.my initial point was not the pants. i brought them up as counterpoint to you bringing them up. if you recall, i brought up the complete ridiculousness of the bomb that struck wolverine being a nuke due entirely to its lack of any nuclear traits. if i'm remembering the scene correctly, there was intact vegetation and a sign nearby to the crater. even if it was a so-called "low yield" nuclear device, the radiation would have spread out much farther than the crater made by the initial blast, and would have immediately blackened anything remotely alive. and everything else would be either on fire, disintegrated, or otherwise molested by the blast and radiation. there weren't trees living all free and clear near hiroshima, champ.
art is one half of a comic book. you cannot discredit it because you decide it doesn't suit your point. that's just how it is.
in issue 32? umm he had clothing on the entire time if I am not mistaken............
I hailed and praised issue 32 by miller back when I was wolverine8888? Interesting since it had not even comeout till after I had been banned...........
did'nt you think the bomb was napalm...........I hope that was not you since you know napam looks completely different.
any ways first it was stated to have nuked the town. It also talked about how the cockroaches should have survived implying that the bomb had to have been radiactive. How many types of bombs are radioactive? Also i recall the issuses stateing that all live was dead for miles, but I will have to look that up yet again.
also what your obssession with bring up my old aka? honestly? You do it all the time. stop living in the past. You talk about me using issue 32 all the time for evidence as wolverine8888 yet the issue was not even out till after I was banned. Not to mention the fact that was like 2 years ago and was extremely dumb and irrelivant to bring up.
I AM WOLVERINE8888 OK. YOU GOT IT GOOD. YOU ALL SEE THIS THAT GOOD. SO IS THERE A NEED FOR YOU TO BRING UP THIS FACT FOR THE 5th TIME?
i dont remember bringing it up more than once before, nor in any derogatory or insulting way. so, try not to blow things out of proportion.
also, the issue 32 situation sticks out prominently in my mind as an argument in which you wouldn't yield an inch to either xmarksthespot or i when discussing it. whether it was as 88888 or another name, we can both admit it happened.
i'd also suggest you look up the definition of words such as obsession before throwing the around so loosely.
Originally posted by Disappear
i dont remember bringing it up more than once before, nor in any derogatory or insulting way. so, try not to blow things out of proportion.also, the issue 32 situation sticks out prominently in my mind as an argument in which you wouldn't yield an inch to either xmarksthespot or i when discussing it. whether it was as 88888 or another name, we can both admit it happened.
i'd also suggest you look up the definition of words such as obsession before throwing the around so loosely.
admitt what happen? I think you have the wrong guy........I am not sure what I would debate about issue 32. Since I am not even sure issue 32 is the one by miller. It may have been issue 31. Either way I am not sure why you or me would have debate the issue since well it stated every thing with in the text. It was decises and really left nothing to be implied.
Originally posted by Disappear
written in journal form by a nazi. hence our entire debate on its credibility
ive seen some lame arguments in the last few pages
i dont even know why Capt it up is even bothering with them
How can anybody argue what a nuke is in a comic hehe,wait that is not iron man-we cant have flying suits of armor,hey they cant teleport we cant make teleporters,hey my grenade does not explode like punishers
why bother involving real life situations to compare a nuke in a comic
Hey the human torch did not burn threw the wall there is no smoke,no ashes,no melted parts,the hulk did not really get engulfed in that fire,his pants are still on,Doc samson did not get pulled by his shirt by the hulk and thrown thru the wall,his shirt would have ripped it could not have happened
amazing things happen in a comic
Originally posted by Disappear
but most comics aren't narrated by nazis. but, those nazis are famous for being completely forthright with their intentions. what was i thinking, suspending my disbelief of a nazi's description of events?