Darkseid vs. Thanos

Started by Hazsekswthurmom141 pages

Originally posted by carver9
You might need to learn a lil more about hulk. Let's use the mountain as an example. Savage hulks base strength is 90 tons. Well someone decides to toss a 150 billion ton mountain on his head... within the span of a second he amps his strength from 90 tons to being able to lift a 150 billion ton mountain without trouble before it drops on his head.

Hulk has a long history of amping immediately to insane levels.

facepalm Your using a Savage Hulk feat to prove your argument, when Grey Hulk and him don't have similar strength increases. The feat in discussion was more of a silly plot device than a legit strength. A non enranged Grey Hulk that's Thing level at base, is launched into an asteroid like a bullet and destroys it. Do you not see what's wrong there? Now your just arguing for the sake of it.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
facepalm Your using a Savage Hulk feat to prove your argument, when Grey Hulk and him don't have similar strength increases. The feat in discussion was more of a silly plot device than a legit strength. A non enranged Grey Hulk that's Thing level at base, is launched into an asteroid like a bullet and destroys it. Do you not see what's wrong there? Now your just arguing for the sake of it.
No, you're in denial and are actually saying a strength feat shouldn't count for the Hulk. The sheer lunacy in dismissing a strength feat for the posterchild for meatheads.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Starbreaker feat: He had help from GL, making the feat questionable.

"Unimaginable strength" as a comment from another character is not a good measure of strength.

"by the look" is not a good measure of size... :-/

Will recheck your other "feats" when I've got time...

What questinable about the starbreaker feat ? At its weakest it would take one world pushing feet just to stalemate it. And since it wasnt a stalemate you got two times that amount. If you want to give Lantern more credit than building the harnass and keeping it together against opposing forces , be my guest. That leaves each with one earth pushin display.

Why is the image of the cylindical ship not a good reference? They gave the 600 miles diameter number and it clearly looked that much longer. Yes its a guestimation, but its ballpark 😄

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
[B]Starbreaker feat: He had help from GL, making the feat questionable.
There's no evidence of Lantern assisting him in pulling earth, he merely created a construct that could grasp the planet allowing Superman to pull it.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
There's no evidence of Lantern asisting him in pulling earth, he merely created a construct that could grasp the planet, allowing him to pull it.

Wanna bet?

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Wanna bet?
Whatever

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Whatever

I can prove my point. Can you prove yours?

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
There's no evidence of Lantern assisting him in pulling earth, he merely created a construct that could grasp the planet allowing Superman to pull it.

Didn't superman ask gl to keep pulling?

You make me wonder about you sometimes.

Originally posted by paisapower
What questinable about the starbreaker feat ? At its weakest it would take one world pushing feet just to stalemate it. And since it wasnt a stalemate you got two times that amount. If you want to give Lantern more credit than building the harnass and keeping it together against opposing forces , be my guest. That leaves each with one earth pushin display.

Why is the image of the cylindical ship not a good reference? They gave the 600 miles diameter number and it clearly looked that much longer. Yes its a guestimation, but its ballpark 😄

How much of the weight was the gl pulling? Once you answer that... how much force was being applied against superman and the gl?

Originally posted by carver9
How much of the weight was the gl pulling? Once you answer that... how much force was being applied against superman and the gl?

To be honest, I dont think Lantern was pulling anything, just focussing on keeping it together.

As for the force against them, at least the amount needed to move the earth.And it would take equal that foce to have a stalemate. And since they were winning the tug contest you need one planet pusher feat to stalemate it added to another needed to pull it in the opposit direction so you got 2x earth moving force

If you want to get technical throw in the gravitational pull of the sun and what you got will not be to your liking

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
I can prove my point. Can you prove yours?
Go ahead and make the first move. 🙂

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Go ahead and make the first move. 🙂

Post the feat (the 2 pages) or reread it. You'll get my point...

Originally posted by paisapower
To be honest, I dont think Lantern was pulling anything, just focussing on keeping it together.

As for the force against them, at least the amount needed to move the earth.And it would take equal that foce to have a stalemate. And since they were winning the tug contest you need one planet pusher feat to stalemate it added to another needed to pull it in the opposit direction so you got 2x earth moving force

If you want to get technical throw in the gravitational pull of the sun and what you got will not be to your liking

Why would superman ask lantern to keep pulling if he wasn't pulling anything?

I don't consider pulling feats to be a strength feat anyway... its kind of different to me.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Post the feat (the 2 pages) or reread it. You'll get my point...
Hur? I can only find one scan and there's no reference of Gl aiding him in the feat.

Originally posted by carver9
Why would superman ask lantern to keep pulling if he wasn't pulling anything?

I don't consider pulling feats to be a strength feat anyway... its kind of different to me.

What comic was this from ?

Originally posted by carver9
Why would superman ask lantern to keep pulling if he wasn't pulling anything?

I don't consider pulling feats to be a strength feat anyway... its kind of different to me.

I think your missing the point. I just showed you they displayed the force needed to move 2 earths minimum. If you give them 50/50 you still have 1 feat each, no way around it

O and how conveniant that pulling feats dont cut the mustard with u

What kind of feats would u like me to provide u ?

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Hur? I can only find one scan and there's no reference of Gl aiding him in the feat.

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/103/supermanmovesplanetfm9.jpg

Green Lantern (Hal): "We've got to pull the planet back into place"

Superman: "Add your power to mine"

Also, FYI, If you're planning on doing an interpretation debate here, I already had a 10 page debate with h1a8 about this to be found here:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=513211&pagenumber=11

He lost that debate (pretty badly).

Originally posted by paisapower
I think your missing the point. I just showed you they displayed the force needed to move 2 earths minimum. If you give them 50/50 you still have 1 feat each, no way around it

Didn't see you provide "2 Earth weights" minimum proof. Pls repost it here so ppl can scrutinize your "proof".

Edit. Is it just me or is your posting style/argumentation style exceedingly similar to h1a8's...?

h1's not been seen since I murdered him in the Dr M debate... :-0

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/103/supermanmovesplanetfm9.jpg

Green Lantern (Hal): "We've got to pull the planet back into place"

Superman: "Add your power to mine"

Also, FYI, If you're planning on doing an interpretation debate here, I already had a 10 page debate with h1a8 about this to be found here:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=513211&pagenumber=11

He lost that debate (pretty badly).

This is exactly what I figured. The evidence you provided is to subjective, obviously Lantern is providing assistance by creating the construct......in that sense yes, GL is helping Superman move the planet. But as far as actually being a secondary force pulling the planet it's the evidence is not blatant enough. "The add your power to mine" line seems more like a reference to the actual construct. What leads me to believe so, is GL specifically created a harness for Supes to pull.

And H1a8 didn't really lose that badly.....from what I can understand, he's made alot shitty post that hurt his credibility, that just happened to be an argument he couldn't win due to his reputation.

Regardless, this shit isn't relevant to the point I was making earlier.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
This is exactly what I figured. The evidence you provided is to subjective, obviously Lantern is providing assistance by creating the construct......in that sense yes, GL is helping Superman move the planet. But as far as actually being a secondary force pulling the planet it's the evidence is not blatant enough. "The add your power to mine" line seems more like a reference to the actual construct. What leads me to believe so, is GL specifically created a harness for Supes to pull.

And H1a8 didn't really lose that badly.....from what I can understand, he's made alot shitty post that hurt his credibility, that just happened to be an argument he couldn't win due to his reputation.

Regardless, this shit isn't relevant to the point I was making earlier.

We. Pull. Planet. Really? This isn't proof enough? Sigh.

There is more evidence pointing to GL helping pull the planet than there is that states that Superman did it solo. Dialogue from both characters point out to a sharing of the task and you have to provide PROOF if you want to disprove this.

I stated that the feat is QUESTIONABLE due to the nature of how the feat was portrayed and I'm right.

Well, it looks like you and I have different ways of "interpreting" reality/circumstances. I happen to believe yours is pretty biased as I can actually point out some evidence while you cannot.