Darkseid vs. Thanos

Originally posted by quanchi112
Didn't have have help towing earth ? destroying something three times the size is much more impressive than either of these. the moon sized object ko'd him also while he was going much faster than the Hulk so by direct comparison the Hulk is much more impressive as he remained conscious, went slower, and destroyed something over 5 times the size of what Superman destroyed.

He pulled the Earth by himself by strapping himself with an Oan energy harness. You're thinking of the one with Martian Manhunter and Wonderwoman.

The astroid feat is obviously impressive but the fact that is was Grey Hulk kind of defeats your purpose. Grey Hulk is weaker than Hulk, and is certainly weaker than Superman.

I would put said feat below pushing against Imperiex amped War World, but said feat was also a one off.

The Grey Hulk feat is an abnormality, you were quick to talk about averages but ignore them for Grey Hulk to hype Thanos.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The Hulk didn't destroy anything that was 3x the size of Earth.

None of these feats match up. Him tossing something moon sized means nothing compared to this feat.

the feat still counts for the hulk while handbooks are always dismissed in lieu of comic book feats. I proved my point and yet Thanos tossed around more powerful Hulks like children.

It was 2x the size of Earth.

No Mentioning Events of PIS

Plot Induced Stupidity, or PIS, is when characters don't use their abilities or skills to the fullest extent as shown before, even within their personality ranges, for the sake of the story plotline. It makes lesser powered characters an actual challenge against higher powered characters in the comics. Examples of PIS include Flash stories lasting longer than three panels, or Toy Man as a threat to Superman.

Originally posted by Allankles
He pulled the Earth by himself by strapping himself with an Oan energy harness. You're thinking of the one with Martian Manhunter and Wonderwoman.

The astroid feat is obviously impressive but the fact that is was Grey Hulk kind of defeats your purpose. Grey Hulk is weaker than Hulk, and is certainly weaker than Superman.

I would put said feat below pushing against Imperiex amped War World, but said feat was also a one off.

The Grey Hulk feat is an abnormality, you were quick to talk about averages but ignore them for Grey Hulk to hype Thanos.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
No Mentioning Events of PIS

Plot Induced Stupidity, or PIS, is when characters don't use their abilities or skills to the fullest extent as shown before, even within their personality ranges, for the sake of the story plotline. It makes lesser powered characters an actual challenge against higher powered characters in the comics. Examples of PIS include Flash stories lasting longer than three panels, or Toy Man as a threat to Superman.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's one feat of the Hulk's which outclasses Superman's which also shows why feats themselves don't determine who is stronger and it never has.

Not really, pushing Imperiex infused War World was a bit more impressive, especially in terms of the power levels required.

Originally posted by Allankles
Not really, pushing Imperiex infused War World was a bit more impressive, especially in terms of the power levels required.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
No he didn't, green lantern created a construct to hook the earth. Superman merely pulled it. And supposedly there was some kind of force pulling against the earth at the time, making the feat even more impressive.

No the moon sized object was a spaceship, that he tossed.

Again, it was Grey Hulk who is the weakest incarnation of Hulk, at a measly class 70 strength. A feat like that is out of his strength range. Please read the forum rules.

I'm sorry to tell you this but grey hulk strength does increase while in a rage. Hell... it was stated once that he hit harder than his green counterpart at times. That feat belongs to hulk and we really can't tell what strength level grey hulk was at when he destroyed it but it happened and quan... it was only 2x the size of earth but its still impressive.

I don't know why people think superman and hulk are equal strength wise anyway... a guy that thunderclapped a galaxy to dust and a guy that punched through a time stream like it was nothing. A guy that held two antimatter bombs at a distance.

Strength is the hulk... hell, the guy held planet sakaar together while weakened and planet sakaar is twice the size of earth.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It's an unquantifiable feat and I think the asteroid feat is much more impressive but either way they are both exclusive feats which don't prove anything.

The thing they fail to realize is that superman was amped when he pulled war world. He didn't do it under his own power and that was the main reason he sundipped because he was unable to push war world under his own strength (which was the size of pluto).

Originally posted by carver9
The thing they fail to realize is that superman was amped when he pulled war world. He didn't do it under his own power and that was the main reason he sundipped because he was unable to push war world under his own strength (which was the size of pluto).

Originally posted by quanchi112
I can't even remember and I am too lazy to put the hard drive in.

Yeah, he sundipped for like 30 minutes t accomplish it... he wasn't the superman everyone know of when he did that feat... everything about him changed, even imperex pointed this out after his sundip.

Originally posted by carver9
Yeah, he sundipped for like 30 minutes t accomplish it... he wasn't the superman everyone know of when he did that feat... everything about him changed, even imperex pointed this out after his sundip.

Lol... well I am glad that I came because that's ridiculous. I have read that comic at least 9 times... one of my faves and he was energized. Hell, he was on a level that he has never been at his entire career. Flames were surrounding his body and he was shooting blast from his chest, arms, etc...

Originally posted by quanchi112
It's an unquantifiable feat and I think the asteroid feat is much more impressive but either way they are both exclusive feats which don't prove anything.

I think Superman's greatest strength feats are based on psionics i.e. mind over matter. So he can physical move incomprehensible forces because of that.

Originally posted by carver9
The thing they fail to realize is that superman was amped when he pulled war world. He didn't do it under his own power and that was the main reason he sundipped because he was unable to push war world under his own strength (which was the size of pluto).

Who said that wasn't his power? Last I checked, Superman's entire powerset is based on amps from stars. Basically he went and boosted his personal power, so technically it was his own power.

EDIT: And more importantly Carver it was a feat, as in I was talking about the level of sheer force required. Between the Imperiex infused War World and Superman's apparent power levels, it was a greater show of brute force than Grey Hulk busting a large asteroid. This is why I brought it up, nothing's being obscured here.

Originally posted by Allankles
I think Superman's greatest strength feats are based on psionics i.e. mind over matter. So he can physical move incomprehensible forces because of that.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's not pis. [/B]

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
I copied and pasted it directly from forum rules.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
I copied and pasted it directly from forum rules.

Well its not pis since grey hulk is able to amp his strength as well. I can't believe I am telling you all this, it should be common knowledge.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I already answered this you can continually say the same responses over and over again silent master but on kmc that doesn't fly. I answered your question with my reasoning multiple times.

Yea...your answer basically being that you don't let facts get in the way of your opinions.