Originally posted by carver9And do you have any evidence of this? I know for a fact base Grey Hulk isn't that strong and is one of the weakest incarnation of Hulk. Based off of on panel feats, something of that magnitude isn't with in his strength range.
I'm sorry to tell you this but grey hulk strength does increase while in a rage. Hell... it was stated once that he hit harder than his green counterpart at times. That feat belongs to hulk and we really can't tell what strength level grey hulk was at when he destroyed it but it happened and quan... it was only 2x the size of earth but its still impressive.
I don't know why people think superman and hulk are equal strength wise anyway... a guy that thunderclapped a galaxy to dust and a guy that punched through a time stream like it was nothing. A guy that held two antimatter bombs at a distance.That was Professor Hulk I believe and it was a dimension from what I understand and theirs no telling how large it was......and how in the blue monkey hell does holding two antimatter bombs makes Hulk>Superman? Superman has holding a black hole is far more impressive imo.
Strength is the hulk... hell, the guy held planet sakaar together while weakened and planet sakaar is twice the size of earth. [/B]Please enlighten me on this. 🙄
Originally posted by Allankles
Who said that wasn't his power? Last I checked, Superman's entire powerset is based on amps from stars. Basically he went and boosted his personal power, so technically it was his own power.EDIT: And more importantly Carver it was a feat, as in I was talking about the level of sheer force required. Between the Imperiex infused War World and Superman's apparent power levels, it was a greater show of brute force than Grey Hulk busting a large asteroid. This is why I brought it up, nothing's being obscured here.
I agree, it was a beautiful feat BUT I do not think that quan is arguing that grey hulk feat is > a sun dipped supes, he is debating that grey hulk feat is > our standard supes and it is if you look at it. All of his feats are inconsistent because all of his earth pull/moon pulling feats, he have someone assisting him whereas all hulks planetary feats, he soloed them. Hell, quan could easily bring up supes failing to stop a rocketing moon from hitting earth and he could also bring up the fact that it took the entire kryptonian race to move a moon back into orbit.
You see, that's what I mean by inconsistent... that's why it would be best to debate solo feats for both.
Originally posted by quanchi112Actually it is......plot induced stupidity actual refers to a feat, positive or negetive that occurs for the conveyance of the plot. In othe words it's lazy writing. For some reason SmvFl(Spider-man vs Firelord) is no longer under forum guidelines. But you should get the point.
I meant the Hulk feat. 🙂
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomHulk is one of the stronger top tiers out there yet you want me to ignore a strength feat of his. The reason is because it angers you it's an awesome feat from one of the weaker hulk's. The guy is strength personafied and the strongest top tier out there.
Actually it is......plot induced stupidity actual refers to a feat, positive or negetive that occurs for the conveyance of the plot. In othe words it's lazy writing. For some reason SmvFl(Spider-man vs Firelord) is no longer under forum guidelines. But you should get the point.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Then that feat doesn't count as we don't use amped feats for these characters.
Wut? You're the one who stated the asteroid feat was the greatest feat of brute strength between the characters. I offered up my counter by reminding you of the OWAW feat; an Imperiex infused Braniac 13'd War World vs a super jerked up Superman. What is difficult to understand here?
The level of his power vs the forces he opposed make it a greater show of brute force than your example, is what I'm saying. An indication that the asteroid feat is not the greatest show of brute force between them (Grey Hulk and Superman). This is all I've said here.
Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
And do you have any evidence of this? I know for a fact base Grey Hulk isn't that strong and is one of the weakest incarnation of Hulk. Based off of on panel feats, something of that magnitude isn't with in his strength range.
That was Professor Hulk I believe and it was a dimension from what I understand and theirs no telling how large it was......and how in the blue monkey hell does holding two antimatter bombs makes Hulk>Superman? Superman has holding a black hole is far more impressive imo.
Please enlighten me on this. 🙄
Yes... I have complete evidence of grey hulk strength, durabilty, and his speed increasing during a rage. Look at his first fight with wolvy, it was mentioned that all of this was increasing due to his rage. Again, I do not understand why I am debating this when it is a standard thing for ANY version of the hulk.
He held two antimatter bombs away from each other.. not held them in his hands. That feat alone takes an unlimited amount of force. By the way, you might want to reread the superman/black hole feat and stop relying on the respect thread. Superman did not hold a black hole in his hand, it was a black hole, but it was a contained black hole. The containment field was slowly shedding but once you read it, look at the ending result before they actually contained it again.
Uuummm, you stated that you are familiar with the hulk, so you should know of hm holding planet sakaar together.
Originally posted by AllanklesWe were comparing hulk to superman not amped. You having to use an amped Superman kinda shows how impressed you are with the Hulk.
Wut? You're the one who stated the asteroid feat was the greatest feat of brute strength between the characters. I offered up my counter by reminding you of the OWAW feat; an Imperiex infused Braniac 13'd War World vs a super jerked up Superman. What is difficult to understand here?The level of his power vs the forces he opposed make it a greater show of brute force than your example, is what I'm saying. An indication that the asteroid feat is [b]not
the greatest show of brute force between them (Grey Hulk and Superman). This is all I've said here. [/B]
You need a greater showing for an unamped Supes that's like me showing off war hulk feats.
Originally posted by carver9
I agree, it was a beautiful feat BUT I do not think that quan is arguing that grey hulk feat is > a sun dipped supes, he is debating that grey hulk feat is > our standard supes and it is if you look at it. All of his feats are inconsistent because all of his earth pull/moon pulling feats, he have someone assisting him whereas all hulks planetary feats, he soloed them. Hell, quan could easily bring up supes failing to stop a rocketing moon from hitting earth and he could also bring up the fact that it took the entire kryptonian race to move a moon back into orbit.You see, that's what I mean by inconsistent... that's why it would be best to debate solo feats for both.
That's not what we're debating really. He categorically stated that the asteroid feat was the greatest show of brute force between the 2 characters, I don't think that is true.
The fact that it was an amped Superman (amped by the Sun as always but only to a higher level due to proximity) indicates that the power he was throwing around was even greater. That his opponent was who it was (Braniac 13, War World with Imperiex tagging along) suggests that the forces at play were incomprehensively massive.
We're talking about the greatest brute force, you guys mentioning how amped Supes was just emphasizes my point fo me.