Who's at fault when students fail?

Started by Oncewhite12 pages

Originally posted by soin2cal
Dont mention school, it gets me annoyed😂
Im no longer at school but i still get very annyed at hearing that word because i went through a lot of bad bullying 🙁

😄

I'm sorry to hear that, and I wish I could offer you the words that would help you find a positive motivation to go back, what do want to see differently in this world, when you imagine your free time, what are you doing or find pleasure doing? If you are in the USA you can go back to school at any age, sure, some may "out" you for going back, but forget about them...not easy for you to do, as it wasn't easy for you to just forget about your bullies, they won for now, but not forever. Stay strong.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Black children do not score as well as white children on scholastic aptitude tests, because of the institutionalized bias in scholastic aptitude tests that favors white children.

By your reasoning, black children do not score as well as white children on scholastic aptitude tests, because the parents of black children are uninvolved. Nice generalization, racist.

I don't want to turn this into a "racial" issue, what about Asian students, aren't they minorities and aren't they doing well in overall SAT scores in this country? I think these tests have a lot to do with prep classes, and also, test taking skills, as well as the reason why a person is in school in the first place....a parent has a lot of power...I am not blaming black parents, I am blaming ALL parents and teachers and the student when our future generation fails in school.

Originally posted by Oncewhite
I'm sorry to hear that, and I wish I could offer you the words that would help you find a positive motivation to go back, what do want to see differently in this world, when you imagine your free time, what are you doing or find pleasure doing? If you are in the USA you can go back to school at any age, sure, some may "out" you for going back, but forget about them...not easy for you to do, as it wasn't easy for you to just forget about your bullies, they won for now, but not forever. Stay strong.

Hehe thanks 😄 I think a lot of people suffer bullying and many people are actually so insecure that they bully people.
Hmm ya i heard that, unfortunately schooling only goes upto 16 years in the UK! Currently, but apparently it might be going upto the age like it is in the US so im glad i've left already as i hated school!!
It is horrible to be honest..you feel its ruling your life and i could only take so much of the hastle in!
I am better than what i was but i still have insecurity problems terribly at times, due to how i was at school i think its still inside me now. But talking to someone at college will hopefully help this by time😄
Oh yea i became a lot stronger, although i went through a hell of a lot of problems, it made me stronger in a way.🙂

Originally posted by soin2cal
Hehe thanks 😄 I think a lot of people suffer bullying and many people are actually so insecure that they bully people.
Hmm ya i heard that, unfortunately schooling only goes upto 16 years in the UK! Currently, but apparently it might be going upto the age like it is in the US so im glad i've left already as i hated school!!
It is horrible to be honest..you feel its ruling your life and i could only take so much of the hastle in!
I am better than what i was but i still have insecurity problems terribly at times, due to how i was at school i think its still inside me now. But talking to someone at college will hopefully help this by time😄
Oh yea i became a lot stronger, although i went through a hell of a lot of problems, it made me stronger in a way.🙂

you are right, it does rule your life, and bullies know it, and what is worse, is that SOME parents encourage their kids to bully, if you have a chance, watch the movie The Emperor's club http://imdb.com/title/tt0283530/ although a fiction story and a great story line, it also allows a glimpse into the world of a bully and how his father encourages that behavior...but i have experience knowing of one bully who's dad taught him to act that way, and if he didn't his dad would punish him, so, yeah, know that some kids are TRAINED to bully. and sometimes, they take that attitude to the work force, so watch out, and read books that will teach you examples of how to be stronger, i know you are strong already, but additional strength doesn't hurt anyone..watch movies that offer hints about this issue as well...you'll learn even more and be PREPARED, the thing with bullies is the element of surprise and the fact that their victims aren't prepared to react to the harassment, they don't know the tactics to keep their world safe from harm...sometimes, it's just a mental game and keeping one step ahead of the bullies, it's hard when they hunt in packs, but being prepared always helps, and that's in everything in this life, if school taught you anything, it should teach you the idea of preparation and knowing your own study strengths and weaknesses.

It's the fault of the parents. Their kid doesn't know anything until they've taught them. If they have taught him the right things, a big possibility that the kid will not fail in school. It's just a matter of spending valuable time with your child.

My two cents worth...

ArdRigh

Thats very exact 'oncewhite'. I have had a weakness of not being able to stand up for myself ever since i started high school ages and ages ago (when i was at school). Now im in college i still have these problems here a lot and in some ways worse because its whats been left from what happened in school.
It becomes very obvious that it gets to me because i have always showed it getting to me and just cannot help it most the time. I dont get it as much anymore but people still know how to easily run over me. I have always been a softy so its been really hard. Yet i still can stand up for myself very easily at times because i dont take shit from people most the time now. ut saying that...i still admit to having a big weakness of 'not' being able to be strong in front of bullies. Sometimes i wish i was becoming more like them because im sick of not mixing in with people...but people think that would seem a shame to altr myself when i'll come off a lot better than those will at the end of the day.
At least seeing someone now that truly underdstands these problems..should help🙂

Originally posted by soin2cal
Thats very exact 'oncewhite'. I have had a weakness of not being able to stand up for myself ever since i started high school ages and ages ago (when i was at school). Now im in college i still have these problems here a lot and in some ways worse because its whats been left from what happened in school.
It becomes very obvious that it gets to me because i have always showed it getting to me and just cannot help it most the time. I dont get it as much anymore but people still know how to easily run over me. I have always been a softy so its been really hard. Yet i still can stand up for myself very easily at times because i dont take shit from people most the time now. ut saying that...i still admit to having a big weakness of 'not' being able to be strong in front of bullies. Sometimes i wish i was becoming more like them because im sick of not mixing in with people...but people think that would seem a shame to altr myself when i'll come off a lot better than those will at the end of the day.
At least seeing someone now that truly underdstands these problems..should help🙂

My dear.

You already know the hierarchy of society, it's established throughout school, based on looks, athletics (looks or appeal) income, comedic value, and the ones who know how to "work adults" to their favor. If you are in a religious school, the one element that changes is the amount of the dominant faith and they establish their own hierarchy (although some may deny it, it's really a double edged sword, the hierarchy of society provides both structure and elimination).

You describe yourself as a person who is CORPERATIVE, and this puts you on a level of sophistication and class, however, if you don't have a strong social network, you'll find that opposing personalities find you to be a pushover and easy to use, one day in life, those characters REGRET treating someone like you badly, as they too go through users and abusers and scratch their head in wonder, and as they reminisce about their own life, they will either come across your name or disposition, something about you will remind them of something pure that they didn't know how to respect.

You have to learn to establish this respect and boundaries. You can do this through imagination, if you like music, use your favorite songs to PROJECT different problems, picture it as a movie in your head, pause the scenes you dislike, and edit it, and play it back in your head so that the outcome is agreeable to you. Then, ask yourself how can you play a moment of that success the next time you run into those characters. This method of imagination is good for about any emotional hangup you have in your life, it's good to do before work (if you want to "play" your entire work project in your head before you arrive at work), and you can do this on exams, pictures the questions in your head and guessing the answers, the more you use your imagination, as with anything both negative and positive, you'll get better at it. These folks are good at being negative, and they will bring a lot of heart ache in their life, although you think it's you that's receiving all of the grief, they will get their share of the pie as well. If you want a different outcome, change your tactic, that's the best way to stop it. If you are an empath, and find yourself caring for the feelings of others more then the feelings of yourself, know that this is a GIFT, and people will seek you later in life for it, and know that if you allow negativity, you are allowing them to get hurt for hurting you, and you can prevent both hurts by correcting them, this correction is DESIRED by them, that's one of the first ideas to soak in to your heart and mind; the negative people want to be corrected, they desire boundaries, they don't know what to do if you don't give them boundaries, like children out to play and cars are driving by, they need to have someone tell them when they are out of line, and that's your job dear.

Originally posted by soin2cal
Thats very exact 'oncewhite'. I have had a weakness of not being able to stand up for myself ever since i started high school ages and ages ago (when i was at school). Now im in college i still have these problems here a lot and in some ways worse because its whats been left from what happened in school.
It becomes very obvious that it gets to me because i have always showed it getting to me and just cannot help it most the time. I dont get it as much anymore but people still know how to easily run over me. I have always been a softy so its been really hard. Yet i still can stand up for myself very easily at times because i dont take shit from people most the time now. ut saying that...i still admit to having a big weakness of 'not' being able to be strong in front of bullies. Sometimes i wish i was becoming more like them because im sick of not mixing in with people...but people think that would seem a shame to altr myself when i'll come off a lot better than those will at the end of the day.
At least seeing someone now that truly underdstands these problems..should help🙂

Also, play (group) sports, even if it's chess (I've never seen a geeky chess player who is an easy pushover, they maybe nice and square and slow to react because they are THINKING, but they know the art of anticipation/strategy, and this is what you are missing)... you can gain this skill by playing sports, most group sports require you to think in terms of anticipation/strategy, so sign up for your local softball league or soccer or whatever group sport, but if you can find the time, join a chess team and learn to master it the best you can, people will learn to leave you alone shortly after you develop those skills, and you'll meet plenty of folks who are very cooperative and friendly.

Originally posted by soin2cal
i dont take shit from people most the time now

Kat! Good for you for not taking shit!

sorry but that big chunk of writing didnt make much sense to me. I really do know that those will come worse off and trying altering my mind simply wont work right now because i cannot take a lot of writing in like that. The person i see will alter me in that way, help me through this.
Yes, i try to not let people run over me sometimes.