ROTS Anakin V.S. KOTOR Revan

Started by Count Makashi18 pages

I say Anakin.

The most powerful Jedi of his generation. Perhaps of any generation. The fastest. The strongest. An unbeatable pilot. An unstoppable warrior. On the ground, in the air or sea or space, there is no one even close. He has not just power, not just skill, but dash: that rare, invaluable combination of boldness and grace.
He is the best there is at what he does. The best there has ever been. And he knows it. - ROTS novel.

Originally posted by allfg
I'd personally say Revan takes it, even in saber combat.

Vandar described him as a saber prodigy, indicating that his natural grasp of the saber is on quite the high level; I would actually hesitate to even call Anakin a saber prodigy at all given he didn't technically advance at any extreme rate, and was only as good as he was because of his force strength.

Now we know that Revan did actually beat Darth Malak in saber combat, while being powered up by the Star Forge and described as near invincible. That's the same Malak who has quite the achievement under his belt, given that even in the days before he was powered up by the Star Forge, defeated Master Kavar, who was basically the BattleMaster of the KotOR Jedi Order, indicating he was one of the top KotOR Jedi Order duelists, and probably the best.

Revan's also faced far more combat against other force users and lightsaber users than Anakin has, seeing as he was involved in the Jedi Civil War. Add in the Mandalorian Wars, and he even has a greater overall battle experience than Anakin.

There's also the fact that Revan was perfectly content with going into battle with three powerful jedi with just his saber. Now we now that Revan certainly has the ability to have just taken them all out with the force, yet he was still confident enough in his saber ability to take it easy and just use his saber, implying that he might have been as confident in his ability with a saber as he was with his ability with the force.

The thing is, force ability [b]strongly correlates with saber ability (precognition, reflexes, increasing your speed for example), and Revan being as strong as he is with the force heavily supports him being awesome with a saber.

So I'd say Revan takes this, due to his prodigious saber skills coupled along with his immense strength with the force, and his greater battle experience. [/B]


Kavar might not be the best cause when exterminating the Jedi in KOTOR 2 Vrook was above him in combat. Not too mention that in KOTOR 2 it seems that Vrook leads the Jedi after the Appearant death of Master Vandar 🙁But I do agree) Revan > anakin)

Originally posted by Count Makashi
Or the same thing could happen in the duel against Dooku, he only needed to decide to win, in the fight against Obi-Wan he was emotionally conflicted. And Revan would probably think he is better to, then his opponent, like Dooku did.

Yeah, but first of all, Anakin becomes more arrogant when he gets seduced by the Dark Side, he even says he is more powerful than Sidious, which is NOT true. (when he tells Padme to join her and together destroy Sidious and conquer the galaxy) And, yeah, he was sure he could beat Dooku, but in ROTS he happens to be better in saber combat than him, and since we dunno enough about Revan then we cant tell whos better. If Revan's better and Anakin starts with the "Youre no match for me, im the most powerful being in the Universe!" thing Revan could use thins in his advantage in a situation when Anakin happens to be overconfident. If not, then Anakin's words would mean nothing.

Unless something similar in the ROTS Anakin v.s. Obi finale happens.

Yea, unless something like that happens, then Revan wins, but have many times will Anakin fight, just when he has Choked his wife, on a normal day, Revan goes down.

It would be a very cool duel

It would be, but Anakin would probably be a winer.

Revan pwnz the shit out of Anakin.

Originally posted by Cryo
Revan pwnz the shit out of Anakin.

Reasons?

darth revna would pwn anikin

1. revan has more experiance battling jedi

2. revan has better force powers like ankin has force lighting and revan has force strom

and anikin does not choke her wife daily he only chokes her once because he thinks she betraded her

Originally posted by ihavenoname
darth revna would pwn anikin

1. revan has more experiance battling jedi

2. revan has better force powers like ankin has force lighting and revan has force strom

and anikin does not choke her wife daily he only chokes her once because he thinks she betraded her

1-Anakin attacked the Jedi temple, yes with Clones, but he still killed allot of Jedi.

2-So did Dooku, but still lost, i don't think Revans better control of the Force will save him.

And i don't know what you wore trying to say in the last thing you wrote.

I am with Revan. He is probably one of the top 3 sith ever. After some statements i got from master vrook, the jedi council, the great warriors of his era and adjunta pall himself i must say revan would probably win this. But it's a damn close fight to me.

Those are opinions from the characters, whose opinions are fallible and Anakin is described the strongest Jedi ever in the ROTS novelization and the writer wrote that.

In that case why yoda and sidious were stated in the MOVIE, the highest canon source, as the strongest force users from that time?

Anakin maybe the strongest jedi ever in POTENTIAL, but as far as we saw, he was not the strongest at that time so or this statement is wrong or the narrator is talking about potential power. If i am not wrong, in the same novelization is written that "The Jedi have never faced a crisis like the Clone Wars" and this is wrong if we include EU, so, this movie plot script is reliable in the movies world, but out of with and with EU it has flaws.

Yoda and Sidious are more powerful with the Force, i said those things, to make a point that characters opinions aren't 100% accurate and i don't think Revans better Force mastery will be enough, Dooku had also better Force mastery, but he still lost.

Actually, better or worst force mastery, anakin was not only superior with his lightsaber, he was also more powerful then dooku: “he could not meet Skywalker strength-to-strength-not only did the boy wield tremendous reserves of Force energy, but his sheer physical power was astonishing” [dooku]

So, as you see, in force power anakin>dooku, that's why dooku never used the force to take anakin down, because he coudln't since anakin's powers were greater, so even with greater mastery of the force, dooku wouldn't have enough power to surpass anakin's defenses as he did to obi-wan.

Also, i remember the same source stating that each lightsaber swipe from anakin was making dooku to use "lavishly" his force reserves.

So if revan had greater force powers then anakin, this could make the difference.

The quote is about physical power, not Force mastery and Dooku has better Force powers like, Lightning, Choking, Grip, Push... and it still didn't help him. And do you remember that he completely revitalized himself, when Obi-Wan was taken out of the duel.
Dooku>Anakin in Force powers.
Revan is going down.

Sorry? Yes, the second quote is abbout physical power but the first one is clear, "the boy wield tremendous reserves of Force energy", dooku himself is saying that anakin had "tremendous" force power, that's why dooku couldn't use his force powers to defeat anakin, because if he tried like he did with obi, even without knowing dooku's techniques, he would just shield himself against his attacks and kill him as he did with his lightsaber...

I don't think so.

Yes Force energy, that he wont get tired as quickly as Dooku, not that he has better Force powers.
And did you see the part where Anakin and Obi-Wan Force Pushed and wore equal on Mustafar, if what you say is true, Anakin would easily had stronger Force push, as Dooku is stronger then Anakin.

It could go either way