Potc 1 was great movie unfourtunately Potc 2 is one the most overrated movies in film history. the fact the it made over a billion dollers and broke the opening record is sickening. that brings me to my next point no matter that quality of the move fangirls will see this move 700 million times each so they can cream in there pants for Orlando "the *****" Bloom and Anti-American Hippy boy Johnny depp. If Spidey beats this I'll be shocked, but i'm pulling for it.
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
I think most people wear black, or even dark blue, shoes to a movie theatre.
I think your wrong and a waste of valuable space that could be used for more important things, like wasting time debating which movie may gross more money. Go do something important like wiping your ass, but dont forget to close your mouth afterwards. People dont like the smell of shit
Originally posted by ragesRemorse
I think your wrong and a waste of valuable space that could be used for more important things, like wasting time debating which movie may gross more money. Go do something important like wiping your ass, but dont forget to close your mouth afterwards. People dont like the smell of shit
I'd cry if didn't mean I'd have urine dribbling down my face.
I thought POTC 2 was very good indeed, and I feel that its one of the most underrated films, not with box office gross or critical reception, but with average internet fandom; it always gets a bad name, which I don't think it deserved.
I think it suffered from too much story, the plot was all over the place, but it definitely developed things alot more; Depps just fun to watch as usual, and the way they kinda moved Orlando Bloom out of the spotlight and into the gutter, were all good steps in my opinon.
Originally posted by exanda kane
I thought POTC 2 was very good indeed, and I feel that its one of the most underrated films, not with box office gross or critical reception, but with average internet fandom; it always gets a bad name, which I don't think it deserved.
Agreed.
I honestly thought it was a great film.
Originally posted by exanda kane
Well its colours are certainly nicer than Spiderman and his drab ensemble.
maybe, but atleast spiderman2 had a beginning middle and end. Not to mention more direction than the retarded puppy high on angel dust that was pirates of the carribean2. Pirates diddnt know where it wanted to begin or end. The entire first twenty minutes of the film was completely unnecassary. The remaining action sequences were redundant and drawn out. Take away pretty colors, and pirates was nothing more than johnny depp running away through out the entire film. i mean...that was the running joke and overall point o the movie right? johnny depp the anti hero runs away from every redeaming situation, untill the very end when he is forced into the one that will ressurect him for a third shitty installment. Anyone can pull shit out of their asses when they have millions of dollars and the finest actors to play with.
That's a spot on analysis of Pirates 2, but still, I felt that Bruckheimer playing with his train sets, cash and actors, is more than Spierman 2 or one.m At least Pirates has the action sequences, the only redeeming part of the Spiderman films have been the few moments when the human story of Peter evokes.
Originally posted by exanda kane
That's a spot on analysis of Pirates 2, but still, I felt that Bruckheimer playing with his train sets, cash and actors, is more than Spierman 2 or one.m At least Pirates has the action sequences, the only redeeming part of the Spiderman films have been the few moments when the human story of Peter evokes.
Well, i think the human question that the spiderman character asks is content enough for a movie. more so than the pirates sequal offered. Granted, spiderman2 was basically a remake of the first installment, i felt the film was more complete and better made than pirates2. Pirates2 diddnt fell to have any sense of direction to me. The action sequences in spiderman felt to me, to be sequenced perfectly for the pace of the story they went with. Where as pirates, the action dictated the story.
Dont mean to offend fans of the franchise but i really Dont get whats the big deal with POTC i have never seen number 1 or 2 and certainly Dont intend on seeing 3. So in terms of box office my money will be contributed towards spiderman3 which looks OK although the story has been fu.... up. Although the way things are looking Pirates might be the winner as its family orientated as well as able to pull in the teenagers heck the target market for POTC is huge.
Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Well, i think the human question that the spiderman character asks is content enough for a movie. more so than the pirates sequal offered. Granted, spiderman2 was basically a remake of the first installment, i felt the film was more complete and better made than pirates2. Pirates2 diddnt fell to have any sense of direction to me. The action sequences in spiderman felt to me, to be sequenced perfectly for the pace of the story they went with. Where as pirates, the action dictated the story.
Like I said earlier, Pirates2 suffered from too much story. The film opens, and we have 3 seperate strands of the film to attend to, and it really does take a while until they meet, we have Jack searching for a Key, we have Orlando Bloom (I'll just call him Orlando Bloom because I haven't really see him make any of his roles unique) going after Jack, and then we have Elizabeth going after Will, who's going after Jack.
We also have a hell of a lot of narrative engimas set up, but because of the overlapping story lines, we don't have the time to really take much notice of them. The 2nd and 3rd acts of Pirates2, I felt, were great.
Spiderman 2 was a different kettle of fish. I like Toby Maguire as Peter Parker, I like the the sense of alienation he gives out, but I was never much convinced by the action sequences, although they were a great deal of improvement on the first films. I really think that the part of Peter Parker's life could be much more dramatic and interesting had they just left the Spiderman bits completely out. it seems more like a distraction than a neccesity for the director to show us some eye candy, rather than a genuine fight against evil. I would really have liked to have seen Gyllenhal in the role, just to see what he might do with it.
Originally posted by exanda kane
dramatic and interesting had they just left the Spiderman bits completely out. it seems more like a distraction than a neccesity for the director to show us some eye candy, rather than a genuine fight against evil. .
what?
Just like any spiderman story. The villian always has some kind of relevance and connection to the inner battle that peter parker and spiderman are having at that time. The villian is usually always a metaphor to the enternal struggle that parker is having. which i thought was presented well enough in the film. My gripe with spidey 2 is that it diddnt seperate itself enough from the first film infact it felt like a retelling of the first film. I also cant stand parkers pussy, timid character in the movie.
I can kind of get what you were saying aout pirates having to much story. I think it would have benefited with a more comprehensive story. To me the story just felt like filler for the action sequences. Where as in Spiderman the story seemed to build up to the action sequences. PErsonally i dont think there is a better comic movie out there with more impressive fight scenes. The action sequences captured the fight style from the comics perfectly. Hellboy is a close second
I voted for the Pirates, you have to think of the viewing audiences, Spidermen is loved by kids sure, but I would think more families would be eager to see the Pirates more given the Disney Tag.
It could be a close one, but given the content Spiderman would have to come up with a kick ass story line.
All things aside I don't think the two should go head to head, they aren't in the same category, now if you were going to say Spiderman vs Batman (or another superhero from the comics) then it would be a better arguement.
Personally speaking, at home we have both sets of films on DVD, Spiderman gathers dust while the pirates are never off the telly, but thats just my personal choice.
We buy the spiderman dvds for my son and never bothers watching them... he's 9 btw
Batman Begins and Superman Returns are both superior to the Spiderman movie franchise as so far, in my opinion. I think DC have a right idea, and have built upon the hindsight and not thrown all there licenses into half arsed films like Daredevil, Fantastic Four and others.
They've taken things down a key, and used CGI only when they need, avoiding the blue screen syndrome so popular these days. The action sequences in both Spiderman films just seemed a little too cartoonish for my tastses.
I think the part that does work well in the Spiderman films are story of Peters life, and the human emotion. The CGI sequences just don't really add much to my viewing experience, and sometimes just make it anti-climatic.
I was actually glad of the Daredevil/Fantastic Four/Electra etc films due to the fact I missed reading the comics as a child and at least i got the gest of what they are all about.
Saying that, i'm constantly being reminded by him indoors that "thats not the way it happened!"
I was an incredible (bill bixby) hulk fan, and I knew that was nothing like the comics but i grew to love the show, the film sent my son to sleep in the cinema and i do wish me too looking back.
Well there is that about it, but not only cuz he's a stunner with black teeth, he has character and its a bloody good one, the humour in the film is very good, seen the trailer? I love the funny bits in that as it is, the monkey and the proposal... if thats something to go by...
Spiderman doesn't really have the humph that Pirates have but as i said they shouldn't be back to back really as they are both different types of movies.