P.O.T.C. 3 vS Spiderman 3/Box Office Face-Off

Started by ragesRemorse13 pages
Originally posted by exanda kane
Batman Begins and Superman Returns are both superior to the Spiderman movie franchise as so far, in my opinion.

I'm sorry to disagree with you. I agree with you on the batman begins aspect, but Superman returns? I mean seriously that film had no story. It was essentially a remake of Superman1. I am a huge Superman fan and appreciate the action given in the film. However, i dont know how you can say superman returns was a superior film than the spiderman films. Is it because you just liked it more? If so then i'll understand your comment, but when looking at the movie unbiased as a fan but as a movie fan. What did superman offer that was superior than the Spiderman movies? I thought the Cgi was better, but it had almost triple the budget of spiderman1.

I thought superman returns was one of the most dissapointing oppertunities in recent film. The story line opened up and showed Great potential for a superman movie, but then did nothing original or new with the franchise. The overall message of the movie to me was asking the question, why does the world need superman. At the end of the movie we were supposed to have an asnwer to that question, but i found none. the movie basically told me that the world does not need superman. Infact Superman does more harm than good, by giving brilliant villians the means to destroy the world. Superman was all but absent through out the movie and had no dialogue. Not to mention the cheap ingrediant of giving superman a son.

thats easy to say,they were better because the spiderman films are kiddle flicks,their a disgrace to the comicbook and should be burned.Superman returns isnt all that great either,they are not magical films like the first two,but they are not near as bad as the burton batman movies or those disgraceful spiderman kiddie flicks.You just need to forget how cool and awesome the special effects for the spiderman movies are and you'll see just how horribly written these movies are.spiderman was never about one girl and never should be unfortunatey thats what these crappy movies are all about.

Originally posted by exanda kane
Batman Begins and Superman Returns are both superior to the Spiderman movie franchise as so far, in my opinion. I think DC have a right idea, and have built upon the hindsight and not thrown all there licenses into half arsed films like Daredevil, Fantastic Four and others.

They've taken things down a key, and used CGI only when they need, avoiding the blue screen syndrome so popular these days. The action sequences in both Spiderman films just seemed a little too cartoonish for my tastses.

I think the part that does work well in the Spiderman films are story of Peters life, and the human emotion. The CGI sequences just don't really add much to my viewing experience, and sometimes just make it anti-climatic.

yep.except I disagree about the second spiderman film.The special effects for the spiderman films -well at least the second one,are its one saving grace that makes it worth sitting through.everything else about those movies dont even come close to measuring up to the greatness that Batman Begins possess.any true spidey fan would know that.Thank god for Batman Begins.it erased that nightmare franchise of those pathetic Burton/Scumacher monstrocity franchise.Its the one and only true batman movie.

Spidey can not defeat the fangirls. look at Titanic and the first 2 pirates movies. the reason why those movie made so much money was because of fangirls. They would rather watch Johnny Depp running around in makeup acting like a assclown than Spidey. Potc3 will win because of the fangirls.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
thats easy to say,they were better because the spiderman films are kiddle flicks,their a disgrace to the comicbook and should be burned.Superman returns isnt all that great either,they are not magical films like the first two,but they are not near as bad as the burton batman movies or those disgraceful spiderman kiddie flicks.You just need to forget how cool and awesome the special effects for the spiderman movies are and you'll see just how horribly written these movies are.spiderman was never about one girl and never should be unfortunatey thats what these crappy movies are all about.

i think spuerman returns is far more disgraceful to the comics than spiderman.

Originally posted by exanda kane
Batman Begins and Superman Returns are both superior to the spider-man movie franchise as so far, in my opinion. I think DC have a right idea, and have built upon the hindsight and not thrown all there licenses into half arsed films like Daredevil, Fantastic Four and others.

They've taken things down a key, and used CGI only when they need, avoiding the blue screen syndrome so popular these days. The action sequences in both spider-man films just seemed a little too cartoonish for my tastses.

I think the part that does work well in the spider-man films are story of Peters life, and the human emotion. The CGI sequences just don't really add much to my viewing experience, and sometimes just make it anti-climatic.

I have to disagree with you on your thinking that Superman returns is better than the spider-man franchise that film was horrible, at least while viewing spider-man it had my attention and i wasn't falling asleep cant exactly say the same for SR.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
i think spuerman returns is far more disgraceful to the comics than spiderman.

It is more the underlining ethos DC comics have taken with their reinvention of their best franchises, the way they have strove and taken measures to just not flippantly throw all the material they have into production, hoping unrealistic CGI effects will be a banker, and forget the human narrative.

X-Men 3 is a prime example of this, the story is amock with a sense of self indulgence, and the development of entire characters are simply lacking, having no real importance to the story, other than to deomnstate their mutant power. I believe Colossus is a prime example of this. Instead of a russian farmboy with a deep sense of honour and loyalty, he is simply an american high school jock, who throws Hugh Jackman around. Now, of course, Colossus certainly isn't a main character in the story, but it shows just how wasted the potential is, even before the character has got the chance to be developed.

In comparison, both Batman Begins and Superman Returns develop their main characters well, Christian Bale and Brandon Routh are both exellent choices, and while I haven't really seen Routh perform amazingly, he does his job, and lets the script do what its meant to. CGI sequences aren't used for the sake of it, they only enhance the human story. After the last decade has gone CGI crazy, DC made a very wise choice by going back to basics, allowing us to engage with these iconic characters again, instead of getting caught up in all the effects, the same can be said for James Bond and Casino Royale.

As I said before, I find the human story of Peter Parkers life much more interesting to watch than the action, part of Spiderman's appeal is that we may feel that we connect with Peter Parker, or at least every one of us knows a Peter Parker, he's an alienated kid, a loner and his struggle to overcome simply day to day life and issues.

When I saw the Spiderman films, I thought this was achieved, yet I felt the action scenes were anti climatic, disjointed and just a little too unreal. When I say that, I do not simply mean the quality and quantity of the CGI, but how it is used; the editing, the sound, the emotional response it evokes, all of those elements.

What I enjoy about Superman Returns is the way it is more involving than a few cliche fights with bad guys, some CGI and a weak emotional story. In many respects, its not much of an action film at all. It doesn't appeal to the audience Marvel tries to hound, doesn't lower to that level. The look of the film isn't flashy or over the top; it has a classical look to it, the influences of 30s, 40s and 50s design were a good choice, and the golden, yellow filter really works well.

Although I think Brian Singer being credited as being a hugely intelligent film maker is wrong, you have to admit, the man can hit the mark on the event movie sometimes, one that does not insult the audiences intelligence.

I'm glad that the Superman mythos has been taken in a new direction, the inclusion of the Richard character really had me doubting whether the world did need a Superman, and the idea of Lois' son was intruiging, I felt teased by it, something Singer always seems to do, but is never able to explore further.

In conclusion, I must say that before the recent reinvention of DC franchises, I found Batman and Superman to be totally uninteresting characters, well passed there sell by date and really not worth reinventing. I even found DC comics themselves duller in contrast to Marvel.

But ever since finding myself totally indifferent after watching the X-Men and Spiderman films, I've admired DC's new found care to their franchises, while Marvel shifts its factory line ever further with the help of computer generated imagery. However, that doesn't mean more money at the box office for DC, as Superman Returns proved, but then, that hardly determines whether a film is worth watching. Superman Returns just struck a cord with me. 2 hours of emotional involving escapism.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
i think spuerman returns is far more disgraceful to the comics than spiderman.

Nope.for that to happen he would like to have to be flying around on a jetpack or something.It doesnt even come close. 🙄

superman returns was nothing compared to spiderman movies... but i think it will be interesting to see which movie makes more money

Originally posted by General G
Spiderman just isn't as popular and isn't as good as Pirates...from me watching the last two, nothing really hapenned that made me remember anything significant, they were good movies and I liked them, but they just won't be able to outdo Pirates.

WTF are you talking about, fool?! Spider man 2 was arguably the best comic flick! Especially with the cliff hanger at the end, combine that with, sandman and VENOM!!! Spiderman 3 is crushing, potc!

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
i think spuerman returns is far more disgraceful to the comics than spiderman.

co-signed!

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
I think most people wear black, or even dark blue, shoes to a movie theatre.

LOL...WTF is wrong with this guy?

Originally posted by doomsday49
WTF are you talking about, fool?! Spider man 2 was arguably the best comic flick! Especially with the cliff hanger at the end, combine that with, sandman and VENOM!!! Spiderman 3 is crushing, potc!

You seem to be neglecting every fact that has been said in favour of Pirates, and mentioning a few villains who the majority of the cinema population simply do not care about as evidence.

Originally posted by exanda kane
You seem to be neglecting every fact that has been said in favour of Pirates, and mentioning a few villains who the majority of the cinema population simply do not care about as evidence.

and you seem to be neglecting that the majority of cinema population watching a spiderman movie are COMIC FANS!! I guess i didn't clarify this in my last post, but i am a POTC fan, but, spiderman's is just waaaayyy too much for it! But we'll see in may.

Originally posted by doomsday49
and you seem to be neglecting that the majority of cinema population watching a spiderman movie are COMIC FANS!!

What? The Spiderman fanbase is but a tiny percentage of the cinema going population, it's all but a moot statistic when you count the Pirates fanbase, it completely balances the equation.

Originally posted by doomsday49
WTF are you talking about, fool?! Spider man 2 was arguably the best comic flick! Especially with the cliff hanger at the end, combine that with, sandman and VENOM!!! Spiderman 3 is crushing, potc!

your hliarious. 😆 If that kiddie flick didnt have the amazing special effects going for it, it would be nothing. arguably the worst comicbook flick maybe. 😄 well that just says it all about you,that poster is a fool because he doesnt feel the same way as you do huh?great logic there. 🙄

Originally posted by Mr Parker
your hliarious. 😆 If that kiddie flick didnt have the amazing special effects going for it, it would be nothing. arguably the worst comicbook flick maybe. 😄 well that just says it all about you,that poster is a fool because he doesnt feel the same way as you do huh?great logic there. 🙄

*PFFFF!!!! LMAO!! And now.....ignoring this chump*

Originally posted by exanda kane
What? The Spiderman fanbase is but a tiny percentage of the cinema going population, it's all but a moot statistic when you count the Pirates fanbase, it completely balances the equation.

again, we'll see what happen in may!

Originally posted by doomsday49
*PFFFF!!!! LMAO!! And now.....ignoring this chump*

Ignore anyome who doesn't share your opinion?