Captain America and Black Panther versus Dare Devil and Elektra

Elektra and DD are both > Panther, combat wise. 😬

Originally posted by Bentley
I meant better fighters. Electra and DD won't hurt them in ranged combat, if they get close Cap is way too good for them. Panther and Rogers dictate the hows of the combat, they will win.

I dont agree. Cap may be a slightly better fighter than DD, but i think DD is slightly better skilled as well as Elektra. BP is below them all in fighting skills imo. I know DD can hold his own against Cap in h2h and i think he can beat him as well.

They still won't hurt them in ranged combat, is a hell of an advantage to have.

Originally posted by Bentley
They still won't hurt them in ranged combat, is a hell of an advantage to have.

Dang, I don't know enough of Black Panther to defend his case here. Can't his vibranium suit screw with Daredevil's senses somehow?

Originally posted by Bentley
Dang, I don't know enough of Black Panther to defend his case here. Can't his vibranium suit screw with Daredevil's senses somehow?

Nope.

*keeps quiet becuase he thinks cap could take both DD and Elektra at the same time but doesnt want to piss off his friend jrod*

I dont think this would be close...neither DD or Elektra are usually considered in the same league as BP and CA

Originally posted by King KAM
*keeps quiet becuase he thinks cap could take both DD and Elektra at the same time but doesnt want to piss off his friend jrod*

🙄

Cap and BP.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph

DD and Elektra both have pre-cog, so they'll know exactly what BP and Cap do before they do it. And, via telepathy, they can easily coordinate movements to put BP in a position where cutting his suit apart is cake. Not to mention, they both ALSO possess superhuman stats, so BP won't have much of an edge there.

Now I dont know about Elecktra but all this stuff you are saying about DD easily being able to out manouver Cap is a load of rubbish. Read a DD comic and see that whenever DD comes up against a top tier MA its like he doesnt have a radar sense, he gets punched in the face just like anybody else. I really dont think his radar sense is going to do **** at all really.

As for Elecktra pre-cog its the same case for DD, just because she has pre-cog doesnt mean shes going to be able to dodge the blows.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph

Elektra has thrown her sai through kevlar, into a hand, and the strength of the throw was so great that it completley cut off the hand and kevlar and carried it with it.

Vibranuim isnt like kevlar it absotbds impact.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph

DD is an absolute master at detecting weaknesses in the human body, and, with coordinated movements with Elektra, can easily set up BP for verious nerve strikes, etc. As soon as his suit is gone, his durability won't mean jack.

I can see DD detecting the weaknesses is BP suit thats why im going Cap vs DD and BP vs Elecktra.

I dont see how Electra si going to beat BP when hes a top tier MA, her pre-cog probably wont give her a big enough advantage because BP is too fast. BP has protection and his daggers.

Originally posted by Wynndar
I dont think this would be close...neither DD or Elektra are usually considered in the same league as BP and CA

🤨 DD and Elektra arent considered in the same league as Cap and BP in terms of what?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Now I dont know about Elecktra but all this stuff you are saying about DD easily being able to out manouver Cap is a load of rubbish. Read a DD comic and see that whenever DD comes up against a top tier MA its like he doesnt have a radar sense, he gets punched in the face just like anybody else. I really dont think his radar sense is going to do **** at all really.

As for Elecktra pre-cog its the same case for DD, just because she has pre-cog doesnt mean shes going to be able to dodge the blows.

Every top MA gets punched in the face. Some take it better than others. Its to make the fights interesting. His radar can or cant play a factor. Elektras pre-cog means that she CAN dodge the blows easily, but most likely wouldnt happen 80% of the time.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Vibranuim isnt like kevlar it absotbds impact.

Yea thats what its suppose to do, but we all know it doesnt always do that. There are ways around it.

Originally posted by Alfheim
I dont see how Electra si going to beat BP when hes a top tier MA, her pre-cog probably wont give her a big enough advantage because BP is too fast. BP has protection and his daggers.

You think Panther is a top tier MA? Elektra yea, but i dont think Panther is.

Cap and BP would take this 7/10 due to range. Close though. Good thread.

I also think Electra would be taken out 1st leaving a Cap BP 2 on one for Daredevil.

Originally posted by King KAM
*keeps quiet becuase he thinks cap could take both DD and Elektra at the same time but doesnt want to piss off his friend jrod*

I understand what youre going thorugh buddy. I feel your loss. 🙁

Originally posted by Alfheim

Now I dont know about Elecktra but all this stuff you are saying about DD easily being able to out manouver Cap is a load of rubbish. Read a DD comic and see that whenever DD comes up against a top tier MA its like he doesnt have a radar sense, he gets punched in the face just like anybody else. I really dont think his radar sense is going to do **** at all really.

Originally posted by Alfheim
As for Elecktra pre-cog its the same case for DD, just because she has pre-cog doesnt mean shes going to be able to dodge the blows.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Vibranuim isnt like kevlar it absotbds impact.

Originally posted by Alfheim
I can see DD detecting the weaknesses is BP suit thats why im going Cap vs DD and BP vs Elecktra.

Originally posted by Alfheim
I dont see how Electra si going to beat BP when hes a top tier MA, her pre-cog probably wont give her a big enough advantage because BP is too fast. BP has protection and his daggers.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
He is not a top tier MA. She is. She has pre-cog. She'll know where to shred his suit. She is more skilled. She is also VERY fast.

Prove it

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Right... this is a person who bats away bullets due to his radar sense, and was able to roll with Spiderman's punches... Spiderman, who is a f*ck of a lot faster than BP or Captain America. And he can't dodge a punch from BP? Uh-huh.

Yes. Yes it does. It means she'll know every move he's going to make as soon as he thinks it. And she's more skilled then BP. So, yes. Yes it does.

If you actually read my post, you would see I was refferring to BP without his vibranium suit... I was told he was insanley durable without it, and that was my response.

And they would both win.

He is not a top tier MA. She is. She has pre-cog. She'll know where to shred his suit. She is more skilled. She is also VERY fast.

Last time I checked the Cap kicked Spidey in h2h. I've seen scans of DD being unable to keep with Parker.

Originally posted by Bentley
Last time I checked the Cap kicked Spidey in h2h. I've seen scans of DD being unable to keep with Parker.

Originally posted by capt it up
DD has actaulyl defeat spidy before if I am not mistaken as well as taking out capt in 3 pannels also.

Bp also has defeated spidey, and taken down cap in, well 2 panels actually. He was also stated to be just as agile as beast. (superhuman Agility anyone?!)

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Bp also has defeated spidey, and taken down cap in, well 2 panels actually. He was also stated to be just as agile as beast. (superhuman Agility anyone?!)

Originally posted by capt it up
DD has actaulyl defeat spidy before if I am not mistaken as well as taking out capt in 3 pannels also.