Captain America and Black Panther versus Dare Devil and Elektra

Originally posted by Metalmanx

No, not exactly. Thing is, it's incredibly difficult to rank them in such a way like that. For example, while I think Cap and BP are essentially equal, I believe DD can take Cap but not BP. It's all about their specific power sets and abilities.

Sorry for all the post.

But I would %155 agree with this.

When you talk about top martial artist like these guys, Its kinda dumb to say, "Well this person is more skilled then that person, blah blah blah so he wins"

Essentially, you have to start looking deeper, While All four of the fighters are arguably around the same level (we could go at this forever to and never come to agreement on who is more skilled) what else do they have to offer.

Cap= his shield, Peak Human
DD= Billy club, senses, Peak Athlete
Electra= minor telepathy sai's, Peak Athlete
BP= Senses, Anti-metal claws, vibranium suit, energy daggers, Superhuman Agility and speed

Hmmm....

lol

The Black Panther is far more agile than Electra.
He also has a wider range of overall combat knowledge (Acrobatics, Tumbling, every major form of Martial Arts, Demolitions, a expert Marksman and a weapons expert) and can manipulate illusions.

This easily places him in DD's range IMHO.

Have no doubts that Electra would be the 1st to go down in this fight, whether facing Captain A or BP.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Because while Cap is the better fighter of the two, I believe DD to be slightly more refined in his skill. Add to that his radar sense, superior agility and reflexes, I think he can beat Cap for the majority.

How the hell is DD going to beat Cap for the majority when his radar sense hasnt done **** for him against Kingpin and some Punisher fights?

When DD fights top tier MAs all his radar sense does is give him a slight speed advantage and thats not enough to give him the majority.

Originally posted by Alfheim
How the hell is DD going to beat Cap for the majority when his radar sense hasnt done **** for him against Kingpin and some Punisher fights?

When DD fights top tier MAs all his radar sense does is give him a slight speed advantage and thats not enough to give him the majority.

The hell are you talking about? His radar sense gives him a big advantage against pretty much all of his opponents. Sure. Kingpin and Punisher have hit him. I'm not denying that. They've also hit Spider-Man with his spider-sense. I understand that in comics, the hero has to get hit sometimes, even by inferior opponents.

Against someone like Cap, DD's radar sense would be the perfect weapon to use in battle.

Don't get your panties in a twist, I still think Cap and BP win.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Who was pulling his punches and if he was using full force punches would have probably killed him.

Originally posted by Soljer
Which is ridiculous when the comics imply something like;

Cap > Daredevil = Elektra > Black Panther

Originally posted by Metalmanx
His radar sense gives him a big advantage against pretty much all of his opponents.

Not against top MAs he gets hit...alot.

1 BP pwns Elektra with his manroot
2 DD pwns Cap with difficulty
3 BP snarls DD runs screaming

CA and BP for the win! A no-brainer........

Lol clearly know one here has ever read elektra.........

She has moved so fast punisher did not even see her steal his gun from him and he was standing in front of her............

She also could read the minds of her oponets and put false images into them.

She easily the toughest opponet here and has clearly enoughy skill to take black panther down.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Lol clearly know one here has ever read elektra.........

She has moved so fast punisher did not even see her steal his gun from him and he was standing in front of her............

Absolute crap. Punisher has deflected Caps shield and DDs billy club how the hell is Elecktra so fast she can do that to him? Hes also countered a suprise attack from cap.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

She also could read the minds of her oponets and put false images into them.

She easily the toughest opponet here and has clearly enoughy skill to take black panther down.

Explain the circumstances in which this happened.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Lol clearly know one here has ever read elektra.........

She has moved so fast punisher did not even see her steal his gun from him and he was standing in front of her............

And panther is fast enough to jump inside invisible womens force field before she can even bring it up.

http://img99.exs.cx/img99/5405/ff4.jpg

Originally posted by Battlehammer

She also could read the minds of her oponets and put false images into them.

She easily the toughest opponet here and has clearly enoughy skill to take black panther down.

Unless she has cable level telepathy, she aint getting inside his head.

http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=conceal3km.jpg

Besides Black panthers physical and spiritual sense are far to sharp for ninja tricks.

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http://img56.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sense21xb.jpg
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Originally posted by Apolloknight
And panther is fast enough to jump inside invisible womens force field before she can even bring it up.

http://img99.exs.cx/img99/5405/ff4.jpg

Damn...thats sick. I never knew he was that badass I would put on DD level of speed. I think though I would still put BP on enhanced level and not superhuman due to the red skull fight.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Damn...thats sick. I never knew he was that badass I would put on DD level of speed. I think though I would still put BP on enhanced level and not superhuman due to the red skull fight.

Was that the fight where red skull enhanced himself?

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Was that the fight where red skull enhanced himself?

Er.....*gets the feeling hes going to look stupid* ...did he?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Er.....*gets the feeling hes going to look stupid* ...did he?

Well, i cant really say to what degree, all the respect thread says is that its "Panther vs. Red Skull (who physically enhanced himself)".

So yes he was, as to what degree, I'm not sure.

Originally posted by guy222
Capt/T'Challa

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Well, i cant really say to what degree, all the respect thread says is that its "Panther vs. Red Skull (who physically enhanced himself)".

So yes he was, as to what degree, I'm not sure.

...yeah I mean is this the one were tchalla takes his gloves off and RS is pissed because he doesnt want to get touched by a black man?

Originally posted by Alfheim
...yeah I mean is this the one were tchalla takes his gloves off and RS is pissed because he doesnt want to get touched by a black man?

yup.

Cap n' BP buddy. Elektra's alright, but I dont think she's ready for the King.

A better fight might be Cap and the Falcon vs DD and Elektra.