Putting it all together...spoilers

Originally posted by murphy83
Could have been a little of both. I wonder if the writers added the Jack/liz stuff in DMC just so it would be another way to bring the will/liz realtionship into a bigger part of AWE.

Possibly. If so, they created one helluva headache for themselves.

Ummm, isn't this a spoiler thread?

Originally posted by Chiki Mina
Why not? It makes a beautiful story on how fate got intervened...

Jack is goofy, loves rum and women, treassure etc. But underneath all that, Jack is just...lonely.

Excuse my aweful cheesyness, but have you notice on how he tries to fill his emptyness with jewels, women, his ship.

There is such a stron potential in Jack. He is goofy, but he is also strong, VERY strong in character and he has emotions.

Originally posted by savvysparrow
Ummm, isn't this a spoiler thread?

Originally posted by garbocats
Possibly. If so, they created one helluva headache for themselves.

Their presence makes me wonder if the Jack/Liz scene is AFTER Shipwreck Cove, and Jack has betrayed them all in some way. And been caught out.

Originally posted by garbocats
Their presence makes me wonder if the Jack/Liz scene is AFTER Shipwreck Cove, and Jack has betrayed them all in some way. And been caught out.

Not in anything I've read.

Is there a spoiler/rumour that Jack sells Will out, because maybe this little confrontation is after that, hence everyone's looking kind of serious and he's got that nervous, defensive laugh thing going on.

You guys are pretty smart.

Savvy, I want you to annalyze this.

Remember when Jack shoots his good side? I think you know the whole details.

The scene where we see Jack as a barnacle-thingy-head, could that be the good side Jack that Jack killed..?

I might be way off...I want opinions.

im with you on your idea mina...i like it....

Originally posted by Chiki Mina
You guys are pretty smart.

Savvy, I want you to annalyze this.

Remember when Jack shoots his good side? I think you know the whole details.

The scene where we see Jack as a barnacle-thingy-head, could that be the good side Jack that Jack killed..?

I might be way off...I want opinions.

i dont remember him shooting his good side. Is that in the 36... or 56? 🙂

That could probably explain his behaviour.

SPOILER

I remember reading a while ago that Liz jumps into the sea and rescues the good side Jack.

Just stating on what I read.

this sounds slightly confusing, but not at the same time lol... but im still EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!

Okay lol so he doesnt actually literally shoot his good side?

Originally posted by Chiki Mina
We talked about the strumpets already.

I wanna talk about barnacle Jack! I think I have a clue on why he is like that.

Ok so what is you theory about this Mina.??? Well there is two things I see either he does become part of Jones crew or he

His shooting his good side is in the 36 page script. There are also some scenes floating around that are from a more recent revision.

As far as I know his shooting his good side doesn't mean that its lost for ever. Its more of a symbol and meant to express Jack's emotional state. And yes, for a while he does go back to a more selfish nature. That doesn't mean its gone for good or that he turns evil. Think Jack in terms of the Jack we knew from COTBP. Eventually, he comes to his senses and tries to make ammends for his betrayals.

As far as the crustation goes, I would imagine that its another symbol and more than likely not actually Jack. I'm thinking either another person's hallucination. Maybe Jones threatens Jack with showing him his fate aboard the Dutchman.

There was a picture floating around earlier where Bootstrap is talking to Elizabeth after she's captured from the Empress. They appear to have a conversation, and as Bootstrap was Jack's first mate aboard the Wicked Wench back when Jack was only a merchant sailor, I would imagine that perhaps, he explains Jack's past to her.

So maybe it's a symbol for her to see what it was that led Jack to making the deal with Davy so many years ago.

Originally posted by savvysparrow
His shooting his good side is in the 36 page script. There are also some scenes floating around that are from a more recent revision.

As far as I know his shooting his good side doesn't mean that its lost for ever. Its more of a symbol and meant to express Jack's emotional state. And yes, for a while he does go back to a more selfish nature. That doesn't mean its gone for good or that he turns evil. Think Jack in terms of the Jack we knew from COTBP. Eventually, he comes to his senses and tries to make ammends for his betrayals.

As far as the crustation goes, I would imagine that its another symbol and more than likely not actually Jack. I'm thinking either another person's hallucination. Maybe Jones threatens Jack with showing him his fate aboard the Dutchman.

There was a picture floating around earlier where Bootstrap is talking to Elizabeth after she's captured from the Empress. They appear to have a conversation, and as Bootstrap was Jack's first mate aboard the Wicked Wench back when Jack was only a merchant sailor[B], I would imagine that perhaps, he explains Jack's past to her.
So maybe it's a symbol for her to see what it was that led Jack to making the deal with Davy so many years ago. [/B]

I was explaining on how when Jack was having one of his halucinations, there is a suppose of 6 Jacks--in purgatory. It is a mind trap so we see these many, different sides of Jacks. They are all in the Black Pearl and the real Jack is the captain.

To make a long story short, the good side Jack tells something to Jack about his feelings or what not. So the Real Jack shot the good Jack and said that for that same reason of showing his good side and feelings, he is where he is now.

So he kills good Jack.

I believe that this Jack:

Is the good Jack..

I know Im too rash. It's worth a shot.