Putting it all together...spoilers

Started by pirate179126 pages

wow confusing but somehow i get it LOL this movie is going to be GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh! Okay. So he literally shoots his good side. Funny.

That would be cool.. For the crusty jack to be the good jack..

Originally posted by savvysparrow
His shooting his good side is in the 36 page script. There are also some scenes floating around that are from a more recent revision.

As far as I know his shooting his good side doesn't mean that its lost for ever. Its more of a symbol and meant to express Jack's emotional state. And yes, for a while he does go back to a more selfish nature. That doesn't mean its gone for good or that he turns evil. Think Jack in terms of the Jack we knew from COTBP. Eventually, he comes to his senses and tries to make ammends for his betrayals.

As far as the crustation goes, I would imagine that its another symbol and more than likely not actually Jack. I'm thinking either another person's hallucination. Maybe Jones threatens Jack with showing him his fate aboard the Dutchman.

There was a picture floating around earlier where Bootstrap is talking to Elizabeth after she's captured from the Empress. They appear to have a conversation, and as Bootstrap was Jack's first mate aboard the Wicked Wench back when Jack was only a merchant sailor, I would imagine that perhaps, he explains Jack's past to her.

So maybe it's a symbol for her to see what it was that led Jack to making the deal with Davy so many years ago.

Im not going to argue, but I have never seen TnT use flashbacks or such like to look in the future as scenes. They use a lot of foreshadowing and symbols.

Something aweful happened in Purgatory.

well isnt that the point of purgatory? for you to live your worst fears?

Sort of. Purgatory is more of a place of exile. You haven't done enough to go to hell, but you're not good enough to get into heaven. Pugatory is more of a punishment really and usually involves you doing some sort of task day to day in which you'll never succeed i.e. picking up grains of sand with tweezers and moving them over to another pile. IN this instance, Jack's purgatory is that the Pearl is landlocked and that no matter how he tries, he cannot move it.

Originally posted by Chiki Mina
Im not going to argue, but I have never seen TnT use flashbacks or such like to look in the future as scenes. They use a lot of foreshadowing and symbols.

Something aweful happened in Purgatory.

It's possible. There were rumors going around that there was more to purgatory than what was in the script, but those were never confirmed or denied. I'm not saying you're wrong Chiki, not by any means. You may in fact be right. There's no right or wrong when it comes to intrepreting what we see unless we have concrete evidence from the script. We only have relatively educated guesses about what goes on, and how things fit together.

So what exactly are you thinking is going to happen in purgatory Chiki?

Exactly.

Its not heaven nor hell.

Its a mind trap. I feel aweful for Jack. Alot of things happen there.

Originally posted by Chiki Mina
Exactly.

Its not heaven nor hell.

Its a mind trap. I feel aweful for Jack. Alot of things happen there.

Wait, do you know more than I do on this one? It sounds like you do. All I have is the portion of the script.

so He's basicly stuck there stressing over things that are not humanly possible and just whithering away until he is craxy or nothing at all?

Wow, I'd be surprised if they DIDN'T find Jack crazy after all of that. Reliving his worst fears sounds terrible. I can imagine the constricting, imprisoned feelings he must be going through. Poor guy. At least we know they rescue him.

Its freakin torture. that sucks. I can't imagine goin through my worst fears forever or even 5min. awww...poor Jack. ❌

It's not really purgatory though right? Its davy jone's locker. so it wouldnt have the same rules and stuff.

it would be whatever Davy Jones decided to do to him so it might very well be awful since davy doesnt care for Jack in the least

Yeah, it's not the traditional Catholic view of Purgatory imo. It's the locker, so it's more painful than regular Purgatory, which would be more about working off your sins if I have that right. (If anyone here is Catholic, please correct me. I'm a Protestant.) The Locker is Purgatory-like, so Davy could probably plant a million different nightmares in Jack's mind and probably convince him it was all the times he tried to be a nice guy that did him in.

What do you guys honestly think his biggest fear would be? I mean the only things I can guess is getting eaten by the kraken again and again my bro says if he really loves Elizabeth then it will be something like she is getting hurt and he can't help, I could see it as him getting branded again because doesnt he like freedom? so A pirate is perfectly free until he is branded then he can't plead guilty EVER so back to question one what do yall think his biggest fear would be?

It's a toss-up for me. Jack's biggest underlying fear is actually commitment. He views the conventional life (marriage, career, law-abiding citizen) as constraining so he breaks away from it. Anything that makes him compromise his time and/or efforts isn't worth it to him. His fear of death can be roped into that because death would pretty much get in the way of his freedom.

But then there's Liz. Sigh. Maybe it's just the J/E in me, but I really do think she scares him. I can see him having nightmares in the Locker of her being tortured or something, seeing her suffering. They probably won't show anything like that but I bet he's thinking of her a lot.

Oh....I have no doubt that Jack is thinking about Liz in Davy's Locker....she sent him there, afterall....and I'm sure he's remembering that sexy kiss....

i sure hope he remembers! because we sure do.

plus theres that line

'My soul I do swear for a breeze a gust a whisper a kiss...

who was the last one to kiss him?