Originally posted by 2damnloud
Space had neither eath, air, or water. 😕🙄
Let's put it this way, if Magneto went to a dimension where everything was based around metal, he would in all likelihood stomp the shit out of any and all beings there. But in the "regular" universe(or a dimension where metal isn't the most prominent feature) he's not nearly as powerful.
I'm not trying to take away from Storms abilities(which are admittedly significant), I'm just pointing out that there where plot device circumstances surrounding her encounter with the Trion(which Rutog conveniently left out).
Originally posted by darthgoober
That scan says NEAR infinite, not infinite.
You said that she does not have near-infinite power. I posted this to discredit you. Also, her powers are limited only to her will and body. We know that the body limitatioin is only temporary as she has the potential to transcend so she has the potential for unlimited power as it will be limited only to her imagination ala the PF. 😄
Originally posted by darthgoober
She has nowhere near infinite power, otherwise she wouldn't have had to tap into the Trion's. Her powers where amped up just like the others and that's the only reason she was able to accomplish ANY of that crap. Stick her in another dimension where Earth, Air, and Water aren't the basis for the dimensions entirety, and she'd get her ass kicked against that dimensions equivalent of Trion.
Yeah, that's why she summoned the full power of millions of stars in the galactic core, right? LOL! Heck, that's why she defeated the sentinel in deep space with the solar wind.
Didn't see this till now cause it was on the bottom of the page.
Originally posted by Rutog98
LOL! This is ridiculous. This is nothing like Colossus against Magneto/magnetic manipulator du jour. Colossus does not control metal. The Trion were the sum of that dimension and they CONTROLLED the forces. Storm simply demonstrated a higher degree of control and power.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Let's put it this way, if Magneto went to a dimension where everything was based around metal, he would in all likelihood stomp the shit out of any and all beings there. But in the "regular" universe(or a dimension where metal isn't the most prominent feature) he's not nearly as powerful.
Originally posted by Rutog98
Yeah, that's why she summoned the full power of millions of stars in the galactic core, right? LOL! Heck, that's why she defeated the sentinel in deep space with the solar wind.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
Storm has infinite power considering he manipulates the base forces that govern the universe and even other dimensions.
Originally posted by Rutog98
Reality controlling is energy manipulation.
Originally posted by Rutog98
The first was her ability to manipulate even the energies that compose empty space thus it can go into reality.
She didn't manipulate space.
There was no pure empty space (by your definition) around for that to be even remotely relevant to the story or what was happening on that page.
It didn't foreshadow any future plots.
It would be a completely disconnected comment.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Tell you what, you tell me what issues your talking about with those examples, and I'll check them out(not that I don't trust your word on it, but you DID leave out some important details about the Trion encounter).
I'll do better for ya! 😉
This is from Uncanny 165:
This stunt left out in deep space unprotected as it destroyed her space-ship. She can only survive a few minutes out in space unaided as it was established between Uncanny 160 and 165 (one of those issues). This stunt came from Uncanny 165. In Uncanny 166, we see her floating aimlessly in deep space in the last moments of her life when the Acanti find her and heal her.
Enjoy!
Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't really get what your confused about.Let's put it this way, if Magneto went to a dimension where everything was based around metal, he would in all likelihood stomp the shit out of any and all beings there. But in the "regular" universe(or a dimension where metal isn't the most prominent feature) he's not nearly as powerful.
I'm not trying to take away from Storms abilities(which are admittedly significant), I'm just pointing out that there where plot device circumstances surrounding her encounter with the Trion(which Rutog conveniently left out).
First things first Storm>>>>>>>>>>>Magneto.
The ONLY way that storm would be powerless is if said dimension is a true vaccum wherein NOTHING exist.
You made the point that her power is hinged on the elements earth, air and water. I stated that Space, or Empty Space has niether. It only has sub-atomic particles and no "matter".
Storm made lightning in space in Uncanny 166 and in the previous issue controled the Galaatic core(millions of Stars and living worlds)
X-treme issue 13 said she can see the energies composes the matter of the material world and this is how she affects the "weather" which incompases Earthly weather and Stellar-scale energy.
She alters her perception to see the base building-blocks(energies) that enmposes the atmosphere around her.
There would NEVER exist a reality where "nothing exist" otherwise the reality ITSELF wouldn't exist, only "nothingness".
Get it kid👆
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
You know, almost all characters manipulate the base forces that govern the universe if you break it down.
But they are nothing compared to Storm hence she is Mistress of the Elements and they are not. She has the potential to wield unlimited power.
True, reality warping entails energy manipulation. [b]Energy manipulation does not entail reality warping.
Yeah, but I think Storm can do it. She controls the energy that composes empty space. In that Trion dimension, she wwas able to heal that tear in reality because she controlled the energies that govern and composed that reality. It is the same in this reality and all other realities. Wherever she goes, she controls the forces that govern it and Uncanny 166 blatanly states that she can control the forces that composes empty space.
Another question, Rudy. If she could manipulate space itself, why would it be arbitrarily mentioned in that scene?
You know why this argument does not work? It doesn't work because space was not the only thing mentioned. Stars and planets were mentioned as well. You could ask why didn't see summon a cosmic wind then? We know she can do this. Instead, she chose lightning as her attack.
She didn't manipulate space.
No, she did not manipulate space, but the issue told us that she can perceive space as patterns of energy and forces (as well as stars, planets...the universe) and bend them to her will/shape those energies as a sculptess does clay.
There was no pure empty space (by your definition) around for that to be even remotely relevant to the story or what was happening on that page.
The issue said empty space. Stop changing things because you want to rob the character of her due.
It didn't foreshadow any future plots.It would be a completely disconnected comment.
The comment was stated to give us deep insight into the character's potential for power.
Originally posted by Rutog98
Because we both know that Storm kicks butt and the rest of you can't handle that fact. You people are trying to put her on a level where even Magneto is stronger when he does not have any feats that approaches hers. The lady is cosmic. Deal with it.
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Do you know how many times I've heard the same drivel coming from conspiracy theorists?
