Ryu Hayabusa vs Urien and Gill

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
I don't feel like responding to all these posts so I'll just respond to this one.
*Ryu drops down from the telephone lines and lands in the Vigoor Empire* Tada!

Again, that does not compare to 100 meter tall moutains.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII

Hmm let's see Ryu cuts

1. Fiends residing in magma

2. Metallic aircrafts

3. Fiends who can't be penetrated by APFSDS cores

4. The Vigoor Emperor who uses a pit of lava as a platform

5. Futuristic soldiers in high-tech armor.!

Sigh, he cut the Vigorioon emperor with a plot device.
And, the only fiends that are resistant to arrows are greater fiends who Ryu kills with the True Plot device blade. with a regular blade he only stalemated alma and managed to destroy doku's armor.

Show me Ryu cutting through someone who has a body that's as hard as iron and can take magma like blast.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII

Might I mention this is what the regular Dragon Sword can do?
There was electric energy in the sword when Ryu sliced through an aircraft in DOA4.

Actually, Hayabusa most like likely used a technique when he did, since I don't know any baseline attack that makes his blade glow like that.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII

Oh...yeah he has...YouTube video
Flying Swallow is too fast anyways. Plus, that's to make the game harder. There's no way they can block an attack of that sort if it was shown slicing through high-tech metal in FMVs.
That wouldn't work for a number of reasons. One is the fact that Hayabusa can amplify his bioelectric energy and blast it at all enemies in the area.

So, mechanized vigorion soldiers can react to flying swlaloow, but gill can't?

And, they don't have to block jack, aegis reflector will return everything that ryu shoots back at him. not to mention how many area effecting attacks gill has. The guy can make it rain fire & ice, plus he can cover the area with light. Ryu can't win.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Again, that does not compare to 100 meter tall moutains.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Sigh, he cut the Vigorioon emperor with a plot device.
And, the only fiends that are resistant to arrows are greater fiends who Ryu kills with the True Plot device blade. with a regular blade he only stalemated alma and managed to destroy doku's armor.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Show me Ryu cutting through someone who has a body that's ashard as iron and can take magma like blast.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Actually, Hayabusa most like likely used a technique when he did, since I don't know any baseline attack that makes his blade glow like that.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
So, mechanized vigorion soldiers can react to flying swlaloow, but gill can't?

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
And, they don't have to block jack, aegis reflector will return everything that ryu shoots back at him. not to mention how many area effecting attacks gill has. The guy can make it rain fire & ice, plus he can cover the area with light. Ryu can't win.

Ashtar, you're wasting your time. This guy thinks Hayabusa can beat God Rugal. 😆

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ashtar, you're wasting your time. This guy thinks Hayabusa can beat God Rugal. 😆

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ashtar, you're wasting your time. This guy thinks Hayabusa can beat God Rugal. 😆

Now I'll allow you to guess this. What would happen if Ryu wielded the Dark Dragon Blade?

Originally posted by Remulous
And he said he could do it bare handed. 😆 😂 🤣

Originally posted by Cloud_VII

Link plz. Oh, and you think Cyber Gouki can beat Trance Kuja. Which NO ONE here believes other than you hysterical

Originally posted by Remulous
No one here believes a barehanded Hayabua can beat G.Rugal except for you.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
You seriously can't read? GIVE ME THE DAMN LINK where I stated that. I'm pretty sure I stated Ryu would in fact NOT win against G. Rugal or Akuma in H2H, and like someone stated earlier, it's basically asking who can beat a handicapped Hayabusa, which is sad and pathetic.

Originally posted by Remulous
😆 😂 🤣 It's who can beat the true Hayabusa not handicaped. Haveing his sword is handicaping his opponenet. Especialy since he has a H2H form.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
No, that's like saying it's who can beat the true Rugal and having the orochi power and satsui no hadou is handicapping his opponents, lol, especially since he has a normal human form. Do you know how dumb that sounds?

Satsui No Hadou is not a weapon, the TDS is. Until You understand that, I refuse to go on.

Originally posted by Remulous
Do YOU know how dumb YOU sound.
For one the Satsui No Hadou is a fighting technique that he learned and worked for, that stems from his own power. The TDS is a weapon, you can be as weak as Dan but be dangerous with the TDS.

Satsui No Hadou is not a weapon, the TDS is. Until You understand that, I refuse to go on.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
You're sounding even more dumb right now since you STILL don't know what my point was in this discussion. And I'm getting quite tired of explaining it to you. Again, a person wielding the Dark Dragon Blade possesses the power of the Dark Dragon, who's power is equal to that of Vigoor's. I'd be damned if you still didn't know what the Vigoor Emperor can destroy, since it's mentioned on this very page.

Originally posted by Remulous
Me sound dumb!? You just proved my point, it's a powerful sword, a sword is a weapon, do you not know what a weapon is?

That's funny. You're using Ryu as an above-average human being against Rugal after achieving the orochi power, and achieving satsui no hadou in a non-canon series 😆

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Doa game mechanics don't display what the durability of the characters. Unless you guys believe that everyone can survive several falls from 100 meter peaks. . . =/

As for the specific event of which you speak, I will agree that Lost World is questionable. However, given what the fighters do regularly outside of gameplay it's not so farfetched. We also see that the fighters get stronger in each game. Feats that are pulled off in DOA4 were seriously only a dream for the same fighters in say DOA2.

On a completely unrelated note, Zack is underrated.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Now I'll allow you to guess this. What would happen if Ryu wielded the Dark Dragon Blade?

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
How about the fall from the DOA4 building, and the jump from the top of a cliff to the bottom (second portion of the Underground Cemetery). Plus you actually think Ryu gets hurt from falling? That's funny.

Again, I'm not saying hayabusa can't jump from heights, But the heights in DOA are BS game mechanics. Using Doa game mechanics as logic means that zack has similar durability as Hayabusa! And, hayabusa can die from a fall, he is not God.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII

First of all weren't you saying it wasn't a plot device before? Second, Ryu cuts fiends who rise out of lava every time he aproaches an area in the magma cavern.

Your comparing gaulas to urien, do gaulas have a body that's as hard as iron. Show me an opponent with an iorn body and is resistant to Magma.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII

And no, the Ogres are resistant to APFSDS, as well as the Vigoorian Berserkers who originate from meteors. Both types of fiends die by the Dragon Sword.

Jesus, the berserkers block most projectiles with their sword. Also, the ogre's being resistant is retarded Gameplay mechanic, because those APFSDS arrows could damage a tank when the dragon blade couldn't, but now it's vice versa, does that make sense to you.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII

The futuristic soldiers I mentioned had armors of steel and the fiends in Ninja Gaiden live in lava as fish live in water.

whoa, they don't live in magma, they simply come out the ground randomly. You can encounter them anywhere.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII

Ok...what's your point?

Originally posted by Cloud_VII

Now THAT is a game mechanic. I was fighting a group of soldiers once and I attacked one of them from the REAR and they STILL did the counter. And again like I said, if it was an FMV, Ryu would have cut through them and their armor, since he's shown doing a feat as such in DOA4.

Based on what, Ninja Gaiden most likely takes place before DOA. There isn't even any proof he has such a technique in Ninja Gaiden. And, I never said you couldn't cut them, I said flying swallow will not work against them.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII

Ryu doesn't have to use projectiles in this case. He just has to slice them to bits, which he can.

And, what's stoping them from roasting his ass??

Originally posted by Cloud_VII

Plus the DDB would disintegrate them; It would do that against magma cavern fiends, so it would do it against Urien and Gill.

DDB is not canonically weilded by hayabusa, stop bringing it up FFS.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII

Gill can make it rain fire and ice, big whup.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII

Hayabusa's ninpo would make him invulnerable to that since: A. Inferno shields him with fire, B. Ice Storm shields him with ice and, C. Inazuma creates an impenetrable field around him.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII

This fight would be so one-sided if Ryu is armed because he can simply teleport behind either thong-wearing queer and impale them.

Jesus, your overrating hayabusa, and underrating Gill and urien. If he teleports behind them, the other one will attack him.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII

Hell, if Ryu wanted to kill them so badly, he can just become the Devil Incarnate with the DDB. Don't tell me again he didn't wield it canonically because he has. The proof is right there in that video.

Oh FFS, who did he use it on, the magma? There were no enemies in that level what so ever. All the fiends were gone since Ryu just defeated the vigoorian emperor. He weilded it as an item, he never uses it as a weapon, stop bringing it up.

Originally posted by StyleTime
It displays the durability all right. It's generally accepted that the DOA characters are superhuman. Bass flew several hundred feet into a metallic, neon billboard and was fine. Ayane, Kasumi, Hayabusa and even Zack fall from skyscrapers like it's their hobby. Hitomi gets hit with T-Rex slaying attacks.

As for the specific event of which you speak, I will agree that Lost World is questionable. However, given what the fighters do regularly outside of gameplay it's not so farfetched. We also see that the fighters get stronger in each game. Feats that are pulled off in DOA4 were seriously only a dream for the same fighters in say DOA2.

On a completely unrelated note, Zack is underrated.

None of those things compare to doa fans claiming that it's canonically possibl for them to survive multiple falls from 100 meter peaks.

I can agree with that. I usually chalk the Lost World deal up to the game developers trying to make the game look cool.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Again, I'm not saying hayabusa can't jump from heights, But the heights in DOA are BS game mechanics. Using Doa game mechanics as logic means that zack has similar durability as Hayabusa! And, hayabusa can die from a fall, he is not God.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Your comparing gaulas to urien, do gaulas have a body that's as hard as iron. Show me an opponent with an iorn body and is resistant to Magma.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Jesus, the berserkers [B]block most projectiles with their sword. Also, the ogre's being resistant is retarded Gameplay mechanic, because those APFSDS arrows could damage a tank when the dragon blade couldn't, but now it's vice versa, does that make sense to you.[/b]

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
whoa, they don't live in magma, they simply come out the ground randomly. You can encounter them anywhere.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Based on what, Ninja Gaiden most likely takes place before DOA. There isn't even any proof he has such a technique in Ninja Gaiden. And, I never said you couldn't cut them, I said flying swallow will not work against them.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
And, what's stoping them from roasting his ass??

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
DDB is not canonically weilded by hayabusa, stop bringing it up FFS.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Talk about minimalization, how the hell will he evade a rain of fire an ice?

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Do you read my pst, didn't I say that gill can create and un-create Fire and ice? So, how are flame and ice ninpo's supposed to hurt him and ninpo's can only sheild him to a certain extent.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Jesus, your overrating hayabusa, and underrating Gill and urien. If he teleports behind them, the other one will attack him.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Oh FFS, who did he use it on, the magma? There were no enemies in that level what so ever. All the fiends were gone since Ryu just defeated the vigoorian emperor. He weilded it as an item, he never uses it as a weapon, stop bringing it up.

Oh and, "wielding it as an item and not as a weapon?" Please, what the f*** does that have to do with anything? He doesn't have to use it as a weapon to turn into the Devil. Did Murai use it as a weapon before he transformed into the Devil? No.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
*Ryu falls down what seems like thousands of meters before he fought the Emperor* Don't worry though since I'm sure it's a game mechanic and not a full motion video.

What part of multiple falls, from 100 meter peaks don't you understand? Have you played DOA 3, because in that game you can knock an opponent down several peaks in an endless fashion. Again, how does that compare, and it was not 1000 meters. You constanly exaggerate evidence supporting your argument and minimilize evidence against it, why?

Originally posted by Cloud_VII

Ryu has sliced through steel armor and steel jets. Steel > Iron

Please study your material science's, steel is composed of about 99% IRON. The only reason why steel is prefered over iron in construction is because it's more mallable and isn't combustible. Iron is actually as hard as steel, just not mallable.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII

He has cut steel armor with basic attacks and cut steel nonetheless.

Refer to what I posted above and like I said, show me an opponent that is resistant to magma and has an iron body.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII

His invulnerability with Ninpo, and the fact that they wouldn't last more than 10 seconds if he had either the TDS or the DDB, and don't say "it's not canon" again because I'm getting sick of it. Watch the video and stop being in denial.

It isn't canon, he never uses the damn blade, he holds it as an item. Show me otherwise, because your obviously ignoring your own evidence.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII

What does the definition of 'wield' mean to you?

To have and to hold, what does Use mean to you?

Originally posted by Cloud_VII

Do you read MY post? I didn't say he can hurt him with fire and ice; I said Gill's attack would not have an affect on Hayabusa while he's doing is Ninpo, and he has enough ki slots to last against Gill's fire and ice raining attacks. Gill isn't going to be avoiding Ryu's assaults for more than 10 seconds at most. By then, he could be mauled, slaughtered, decapitated, sliced, diced, and raped.

And, how are Ki-Shots getting past Aegis Reflector, infact how is hayabusa going to avoid Meteor Shower?

Originally posted by Cloud_VII

This would be more of a mismatch if Ryu was using the DDB, but you have not to worry since he doesn't have it in this particular fight.

It isn't even used by him canonically, your own video that you posted illustrated this.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII

But again, no need to try and counter that since Hayabusa doesn't have niether of the blades. Also, Hayabusa has the speed to be fighting both of them at the same times with his weapons. Without them, his speed wouldn't help much.

Jesus, you act like he's going to speed blitz the like he's flash or something. Hayabusa is quick and agile, but he isn't that flash. He can be and has been rushed down, he just has very good defensive options.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII

Oh and, "wielding it as an item and not as a weapon?" Please, what the f*** does that have to do with anything? He doesn't have to use it as a weapon to turn into the Devil. Did Murai use it as a weapon before he transformed into the Devil? No.

Holy ****ing shit, do you have any idea what your saying. Hayabusa never ever ****ing used that goddamn blade ever. He held the shit in his hands for one chapter. There is no such thing as "Devil Incarnate Hayabusa", that is just your conjecture and conjecture=/=evidence.

"No, they do. When you come into an area, they rise out of the lava; when you leave the area, they go back in. However, that doesn't mean they can't live anywhere else in the cavern."

That isn't my point, gaulas are located almost every where, they not specifically live and love. And, you steel haven't answered my question. Show me an opponent who has a body as hard as iron and can survive magma.