Originally posted by UniOmni
See, this is when the play on your screenname, never seems more fitting.What's the point of debating the hulk, if you disregard the mantra that goes with him?
You do it to yourself sometimes, i swear.
What ever you say. I know I'm right. Hulk is no where near as strong as MM at base lvls. MM hangs with Supers and Punked the Ultraman. He's Rocked SBP. I know He's far stronger than Hulk's base lvl.
Originally posted by UniOmni
See, this is when the play on your screenname, never seems more fitting.What's the point of debating the hulk, if you disregard the mantra that goes with him?
You do it to yourself sometimes, i swear.
I agree, but your jokes and retorts are getting worse by the min. What kind of link was this ?
Originally posted by UniOmni
See, this is when the play on your screenname, never seems more fitting.What's the point of debating the hulk, if you disregard the mantra that goes with him?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What ever you say. I know I'm right. Hulk is no where near as strong as MM at base lvls. MM hangs with Supers and Punked the Ultraman. He's Rocked SBP. I know He's far stronger than Hulk's base lvl.
The same is applicable to Jonn's base levels. He too has to increase his strength to be at Full potential.
Originally posted by UniOmni
He punked a weakened Ultraman, and hangs with the Supers.And MM hitting SBP for a loop doesn't make SBP look any better.
As has Hulk in all the appearances with him and Superman.
Hulk's base strength is somewhere around 100k? We dont know what jonn's is, But we could assume that Even if he were at 1/10 the lvl he was when he helped tow a third of the earth's weight against the sun's gravity, he would still be Far above the hUlk's calm 100k.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Hulk's base strength is somewhere around 100k? We dont know what jonn's is, But we could assume that Even if he were at 1/10 the lvl he was when he helped tow a third of the earth's weight against the sun's gravity, he would still be Far above the hUlk's calm 100k.
Has everyone put me on their ignore list or something ? 🙂
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Hulk's base strength is somewhere around 100k? We dont know what jonn's is, But we could assume that Even if he were at 1/10 the lvl he was when he helped tow a third of the earth's weight against the sun's gravity, he would still be Far above the hUlk's calm 100k.
I can't impart to you just how much i hate people who try to quantify feats.
The same people who ruined the Flash feat from Trial by Fire(which by the way was shy of lightspeed), are the same who go crazy over formulas for joules and shit.
Dead that bs.
Just say wow and keep it moving. People like that just take the joy outta comics.
Originally posted by UniOmni
I can't impart to you just how much i hate people who try to quantify feats.The same people who ruined the Flash feat from Trial by Fire(which by the way was shy of lightspeed), are the same who go crazy over formulas for joules and shit.
Dead that bs.
Just say wow and keep it moving. People like that just take the joy outta comics.
Actually, I just like to make the feat an actual feat by quantifying it, so when I argue how strong My girl, WW is, some woman hating, DC hating, tard can't say, nuh uh, Wonder WOman is low class 100. 😛
Originally posted by UniOmni
Hulk clapped away cosmos.............the level of energy that would require, is easily superior to the output of four galaxies, which trumps Apok and New Genesis.See how that shit annoys you?
Not really. Apok and New Genesis are higher lvl wrealms which are far superior to any galaxies or event he 3rd dimension. ANyway, what the hell is a cosmos? I take that feat as PIS as its impossible to explain, or he tapped into the gamma field becuz it would take an extra dimensional energy source to do that.
Originally posted by UniOmniAnd then another time...
Hulk clapped away cosmos.............the level of energy that would require, is easily superior to the output of four galaxies, which trumps Apok and New Genesis.See how that shit annoys you?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Hulk's base strength is somewhere around 100k? We dont know what jonn's is, But we could assume that Even if he were at 1/10 the lvl he was when he helped tow a third of the earth's weight against the sun's gravity, he would still be Far above the hUlk's calm 100k.
Yeah flying with the weight isn't anything like lifting the weight.
Originally posted by UniOmni
I can't impart to you just how much i hate people who try to quantify feats.The same people who ruined the Flash feat from Trial by Fire(which by the way was shy of lightspeed), are the same who go crazy over formulas for joules and shit.
Dead that bs.
Just say wow and keep it moving. People like that just take the joy outta comics.
The most sensibl ething I have read so far. 🙂
Originally posted by UniOmni
But mind you, i never said that versatility equals power.What i said, is that when you look at the power both wield, and then compare their versatility, it edges things in Norrins favor by quite a bit.
I'd never say versatility alone => power, else i'd be saying that Tony Stark is more powerful than DD.
If Surfer and Superman are peers in raw power output, but one can do so much shit at high levels, aside from fly fast, shoot shit and take punches, the guy who can do the things above, plus so much other shit is easily the more powerful.
Superman = Fly fast, hit shit with physical power, durable too, shoot shit, icebreath and combine powers for microwave blasts and surgical hv applications.
Surfer = fly fast, hit shit with physical power, durable too, shoot shit, and evolve planets, individual evolutions, shields, phasing, time manipulation, gifting other people with power, energy absorbtion, planet wide emps, molecular control, TP/Cosmic awareness......the list goes on.
Dude is pretty much J'onn level strength, elite class durability, mixed with firestorm and GL. All at planetary levels.
He's the reason why people say that extremely powerful heroes are insanely difficult to write for, without jobbing or writing them down.
I understand that Surfer is your boy, but defacing Superman’s power set to help suit your argument is not exactly the right way to go about things.
You left out a few things when you listed Kal’s power set. Keep in mind, I do understand that you were trying to oversimplify it to show how Surfer’s versatility is>>>Supers, but you left out some vital info.
Superman still has intangibility and invisibility. He’s stronger than Norrin, has better reflexes, and has better combat speed than him as well. Plus he can vibrate his limbs so fast that he can compromise an object’s molecular bonds, thus breaking them apart. Case in point:
http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shandspeeddn9.jpg
And Hank is at least as durable as Norrin. Most of these powers used in conjunction with one another make the majority of what you listed off for Surfer null and void. And... let’s not forget about the ominous Torquasm-Vo!! You can hate it all you want… but the fact remains that he still does have it as a power. Granted, it might be a huge plot device, but so is the power cosmic. Superman has shown that he can basically do anything he wants when using T-Vo.
PS: Stating that Surfer is like a combo of GL and Firestorm is a bit redundant, don’t you think? lol
