Five-Star Prison

Originally posted by Ana P
A lot of them do.

Originally posted by Ana P
For the hundred thousand time I'm not saying everyone in prison is a psychopathic killer.

Originally posted by Ana P
I never said anything about Tax Money

Originally posted by Ana P
It's not that easy for some people to change. A lot of people get out and start back doing crimes. Them being in there doesn't mean life is going to be all good when they get out. That's not always the case.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
That's just something you made up, though.

No it's not.

People commit crimes for many reasons. People rob banks because they want money. They don't want to live poor. Some people rob stores because they need to feed their families. Some people go to a life of crime because they can't get a job like everybody else.

Did I just make that up? No.

That's fact.

Tough luck. Justice is the person being locked away and never getting out, once that is achieved, what they get up to should be none of your business. The aim is to deprive them of their freedom and take them out of society.

The keyword here is freedom.

And these guys look like they have a lot of it.

What "some people" don't like is of no concern to me. "Some people" would like every prison to be like Auschwitz, but they won't get what they want.

It doesn't matter if it's no concern to you. It's what they want rather they get it or not.

No. One should, the other WILL be. If there is a choice, it should be the prison's functionality that is of the utmost importance. Not what they do in there.

So basically, you don't care rather the prison is a shit hole or if it's a fun house?

My point was that prisons will get better as does everything else. That's just the way of the world.

I'm not saying they shouldn't or won't. Prison will get better but there is a right and wrong way of going about it.

I will repeat: How would you know that? Been to one recently? If so, why complain? It's to your benefit. If not, zip the lip.

No I have not been to one and you don't need to have been to one to know that. Some prisons give more freedom then others.

Your replies to me and to others prove nothing more than you not having a clue what you're on about.

Well stop talking and go do something else with yourself.

I'm clearly a waste a time.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
''a lot of them do'' is a statement which is supported by what exactly? Do you have statistics? Did you count them yourself?

No, mind counting them for me?

No, but you are very clearly implying it.

No, I'm not.

You can think whatever you want. I know I know what I meant.

So your logic is telling you, that by treating criminals like animals, they will stop doing crime.
People offend for different reasons, and due to different surroundings and situations. Its not exactly straight forward, is it?

No, that's not what I'm saying.

Point out where I said they should be treated like animals.

I saying there should be a limit to how prisoners should be presented with these types of things. This prison seems a little over the top in my opinion.

First of all, a vid of it being built makes NO difference to the fact that half the pics you posted are of the courthouse, not the jail, and hencer you were misleadign from the start.

Secondly, giving people a stake is not QUITE the same thing as incentives (i.e. be good and you get a day out); the psychology behind it is a little different.

Thirdly, they DON'T have more fun than you. Just not so. You don't need to have a stake in society to partake in leisure; it is yours to buy by default.

Fourthly, to answer your comments:

"I think there is a limit.

There's some and theres too much. This is a little too much imo."

What... sofas and table tennis tables? Weirdo. To repeat, many of your pics are of the courthouse.

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"It's not that easy for some people to change"

Some, yes. The kind of people who would not be in a low security open prison, for eample.

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"A lot of people get out and start back doing crimes. "

When not handled correctly, almost always. When handled correctly, that proportion dropss dramatically

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"Them being in there doesn't mean life is going to be all good when they get out. That's not always the case."

That's an irrelevant statement.

You are clearly just commenting with no experience at all based on a load of inaccurate pictures and no understanding of the wider nature of the situatiion. Not sensible.

Originally posted by Ana P
No it's not.

People commit crimes for many reasons. People rob banks because they want money. They don't want to live poor. Some people rob stores because they need to feed their families. Some people go to a life of crime because they can't get a job like everybody else.

Did I just make that up? No.

That's fact.

Right, so what are you trying to prove in saying that? They want to stay in prison, so isn't that a good thing?

Originally posted by Ana P
The keyword here is freedom.

And these guys look like they have a lot of it.

They have freedom in prison? Are you genuinely willing to pursue this current line of thinking?

They have luxuries, not freedom.

Originally posted by Ana P
It doesn't matter if it's no concern to you. It's what they want rather they get it or not.

It's not up to them. If they want justice, they should want them to be locked away for good. Nobody is saying they have to be happy with how the conditions are, but they have no say in it.

Originally posted by Ana P
So basically, you don't care rather the prison is a shit hole or if it's a fun house?

Not at all. If a criminal goes there and never comes out, I don't care. If someone is taken away from their family, their freedom and their lifestyle, you honestly believe that a lush prison will be preferred? You're an idiot.

Originally posted by Ana P
I'm not saying they shouldn't or won't. Prison will get better but there is a right and wrong way of going about it.

Why is there? If they're kept there for good, or for their full time, why does it matter? Just because there are luxuries, it doesn't mean the guards or people view them as great folks.

Originally posted by Ana P
No I have not been to one and you don't need to have been to one to know that. Some prisons give more freedom then others.

Prisons do not give freedom, they take it away. The very fact that some are more "luxurious" than others does not change this.

Oh, and you haven't been to one, so you don't know.

-AC

Originally posted by Ana P

I don't post here to be insulted because of my opinion.

You're basically saying you can't have a civilized conversation with attacking someone in some form or fashion.

If you think your opinion cannot be debunked without it in somehow insulting your very being, I despair for you.

Also, you just made the second line up, didn't you? It's not relevant to anything I said.

Closing by request.