Originally posted by UniOmni
If Thor lost to Hulk, i'd simply say that Hulk was simply more powerful that day.Thats a boon when discussing Hulk, a character who's power isn't static and can rise greatly in seconds.
And Superman's Powers don't greatly raise in seconds? His ****ing Sun amps are rediculous. and still we have the problem of two silly fights with Superman,( which I can deconstruct with ease as to how Superman got a "win"😉, some how removes 40 years of History? Doesn't make sense to me. We don't remove Odin's History becuz he jobbed to THanos. And My God, Galactus is one of the Biggest jobbers ever, but we discuss him at his real power lvls here. But when it comes to DS, we have to argue over and over and it really is just a bias against the character. I'm glad DC is fixing him.
Nightwing has beentrained in acrobatics since he was three and MA since he was 8.
She's not that much more skilled.
This is basically Elektra's skill in Caps body so no,she's not as fast,and Nightwings style is to bounce and richotetaround the arena,this setting benefits him.How is sai useful against someone who can sense them coming and react several seconds before they hit,and Elektra only has one pair,so using them for range is a waste.
No.
Before Steve Rogers became Cap, he was a puny little runt. Then the SSS made him a Super Soldier.
Elektra already IS a super soldier. Do you know how good she'll get with the SSS? It would be insane. At least a class 2, able to run at least 120 m/h. Probably much more.
Plus she'll have Cap's combat training, in addition to her ninja hand training, so she's be superior to both in terms of skill. Which is >>>>> Nightwing.
Punisher's shot Spiderman before, so it's not impossible. Not to mention, she also has her katana and her shruiken, so it's not just her sai.
.....The SS serum makes u as fit as a human can possibly be,it doesn't add a certain amount onto u.Elektra will be as strong and fast as Cap was.
So she's physicallly inferior,and her weapons,yeah punishers shot Spiderman,but last i checked Shuriken and sai don't travel as fast as bullets.
Her only advantage is skill and it's not enough.
No.
Elektra's stats, due to her ninja training, are super human. She's trained her body to go up and beyond, and a peak human body would do the same thing.
Bullseye can throw faster then bullets. A class 2 with as much expierience and skill as she has would do the same thing.
She also has the telepathy advantage, constantly knowing his moves. She also has the stealth advantage, and using her environment the best.
It's plenty to take down Nightweb.
If she's already above Human then the Serum adds nothing,and as Elektra is much more skilled then Cap already his training would add little and what it did add would be negative as Caps training and style would detract from her stealth.
So a class one at best with a retarded style of steallthily chariging at the enemy is now bullseye?No,they're not.
Incorrect. The serum gives the body a boost in every category. Her Hand training would then give her a further boost, making her a low level superhuman. And this is basically a ninja with Cap's fighting ability. Nothing detracts...
A class 1 > Bullseye's strength level anyways, and she would be a class 2 at least. Plus her massive expierience with the weapons, she could tag him.
And telepathy >> Spider sense
No,the serum makes you as fit as a human can possibly be,if your peak human and take it,it does nothing.
The styles Clash,she would have to pick a primary or she would get rusty at both.
Strength has nothing to do with it,if so Hulk would be ME best shooter,and again she is not as good as bullseye,nor does she have superstrength.
The Telepathy and SS cancel each other out,however she won't be able to hear the thoughts of a ratchet as it smashes into her head.
Originally posted by Martian_mindThe serum isn't a program set to bring body to max level. It just amplifies your stats by a set amount. This is why they wanted to give the serum to more fit soldiers... because they would be even stronger then Cap. As for Elektra, she has the ninja training to bring her body further then most can. So she's be a superhuman.
No,the serum makes you as fit as a human can possibly be,if your peak human and take it,it does nothing.The styles Clash,she would have to pick a primary or she would get rusty at both.
Strength has nothing to do with it,if so Hulk would be ME best shooter,and again she is not as good as bullseye,nor does she have superstrength.
The Telepathy and SS cancel each other out,however she won't be able to hear the thoughts of a ratchet as it smashes into her head.
False. Wolverine and Batma have mastered upwards of 100 styles, and they're near perfect.
You think you could throw a ball faster then the Hulk?
Maybe... so, it's a good thing she'll know when he's about to throw it, and will dodge...
The program has a set level!!! it makes you as good as a human can be,that is it if your already as good,it does nothing,Steve volunteered and they chose him,there was no search for fitter men.
Yes,but they have a specific way of using those styles,Wolverine runs in and slashes,the bat is stealthy.They know the techniques yet utilise them in different fashions,your expecting Elektra to be a ninja and run in at the same time.
Strength and accuracy are not the same thing,technique is the main factor at this level,and as she is only as strong as Cap,it is inconsequential.
Originally posted by Validus
I've put you through the grinder anytime you tried to challenge me buddy. 😂
🙄
Lies of a purple giant electric monster.
You almost had me in the original pages of this thread, but then you started spouting nonsensical stuff about Surfer not being more powerful than GL, and i knew you'd fallen off your rocker.
Don't you have some musclebound teenage boys to be zapping?
Originally posted by UniOmni
🙄Lies of a purple giant electric monster.
You almost had me in the original pages of this thread, but then you started spouting nonsensical stuff about Surfer not being more powerful than GL, and i knew you'd fallen off your rocker.
Don't you have some musclebound teenage boys to be zapping?
GL's Biggest Feats far surpass Surfers. Unless surfer has absorbed big bangs, Stopped time for entire quandrants and absorbed entire races of people. Hell Even alan scott was able to permantly make constructs.