Leonardo and Raphael versus Michaelangelo and Donatello

Started by draxx_tOfU14 pages
Originally posted by capt it up
miky potential has to do with fightign skills, He a born naturial. He can learn moves at an extremely fast pase with little to no effort.

nope, they were born as turtles meant to be pets and were accidentally exposed to some mutagen...

and then they were all trained by splinter...

no one of them is "born a natural in fighting"...

Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
nope, they were born as turtles meant to be pets and were accidentally exposed to some mutagen...

and then they were all trained by splinter...

no one of them is "born a natural in fighting"...


I know the story I read them monthly.

Yes he is a born naturial in fighting. He also the best athelet of the group as well. That the reasons he so good at every sport he tries. He can and does learn MA at a very fast pace beyond what the others do, but he also trains the least.

I doubt you even read the comics or watch the show.

also they were not trained by splinter.

Leo was trained by splinter and he trained the rest...........

That's doubtful. Where'd that come from?

Originally posted by brainchild81
That's doubtful. Where'd that come from?

if I am not mistaken the original comic line had leo as the trained master by splinter. He trained the rest of the turtles how to fight. C-master acn back me up on this.

Thats why in the movie that say "leo your the trained master". He was trained in every area of combat inorder to train his borthers.

Originally posted by capt it up
I know the story I read them monthly.

Yes he is a born naturial in fighting. He also the best athelet of the group as well. That the reasons he so good at every sport he tries. He can and does learn MA at a very fast pace beyond what the others do, but he also trains the least.

I doubt you even read the comics or watch the show.

eh ive watched the show and its incarnation, i also have some of the old paperbacks back in the day...

no way does it imply or been said that mikey is the best...

Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
i don't really get this "mikey has the most potential thingy"...

why, is he gonna shoot laser beams out of his hands or create tornadoes using his nunchakus when full potential?

all of them are equal when it comes to fighting, remove their weapons and it would be harder to decipher who would win...

also, saying that leo and ralph will lose because ralph would "want to do it his way" is dumb. although, ralph is sometimes the lone wolf, when they fight together, the teamwork is always there. wolverine and cyke would always shove aside their personal animosity when faced with a common threat or enemy...

anyways, i give the fight to leo and ralph 6-7/10...

Originally posted by capt it up
also they were not trained by splinter.

Leo was trained by splinter and he trained the rest...........

Huh? Splinter trained all the turtles. He trained them to kill Saki.

@draxx_tOfU - Also saying Leo and Raph loose because of Raph being hotheaded isn't wrong. They all know each others moves, they train together all the time. The best team would win and that would be Mikey and Don. Raph and Leo can coexist sometimes but only when Raph is thinking properly. Mikey would easily get Raph mad which would make Raph do things his own way and Leo would have to either try and follow Raph or get either Mikey or Don away and make it two one on one fights.

kento, if we make a match like, say, gambit and beast VS logan and cyke, it would be wrong to say cyke and logan lose because of personal differences, or because of jean grey etc...

It's not personal differences between Raph and Leo. Its Raph's personality. Get Raph angry and he's going to be easy to beat by any of his brothers. Leo would have to either try to help Raph out when he's trying to beat up Mikey who could easily outmanuver Raph or make it a one on one fight Raph against Mikey and him against Don. Raph would loose before Don lost imo though and Leo would be hard pressed to beat Don and Mikey. That's all I'm saying. Raph's hotheadness would be the teams downfall

Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
eh ive watched the show and its incarnation, i also have some of the old paperbacks back in the day...

no way does it imply or been said that mikey is the best...

actaully it ahs been implied and said that miky is the most naturialy talented.

I never said he was the best Leo is.......

Originally posted by Kento
Huh? Splinter trained all the turtles. He trained them to kill Saki.

@draxx_tOfU - Also saying Leo and Raph loose because of Raph being hotheaded isn't wrong. They all know each others moves, they train together all the time. The best team would win and that would be Mikey and Don. Raph and Leo can coexist sometimes but only when Raph is thinking properly. Mikey would easily get Raph mad which would make Raph do things his own way and Leo would have to either try and follow Raph or get either Mikey or Don away and make it two one on one fights.

no splinter trained leo.......

leo trained the rest........

Originally posted by capt it up
no splinter trained leo.......

leo trained the rest........

No Splinter trained them all. They call Splinter master not Leo. Leo is their brother. Leo is their leader because he is the most fit to lead not because he trained them.

Originally posted by Kento
No Splinter trained them all. They call Splinter master not Leo. Leo is their brother. Leo is their leader because he is the most fit to lead not because he trained them.

Splinter is there master, but leo trained them......

have you ever read teh comics?

In the comic leo was trained personally by splinter and he trained his younger brothers.

splinter has tought them certain skills, but leo is the one who originally tought his brothers how to fight in the comics

Originally posted by capt it up
Splinter is there master, but leo trained them......

have you ever read teh comics?

In the comic leo was trained personally by splinter and he trained his younger brothers.

splinter has tought them certain skills, but leo is the one who originally tought his brothers how to fight in the comics

Teaching them too fight is on 1 thing but did he teach them how to master their weapons also?

Originally posted by python99
Teaching them too fight is on 1 thing but did he teach them how to master their weapons also?

I think so.....

I have no read it in quite a while....

though I recall he tought them how to master there weapons.....

They are now all masters of eachothers weapons however in the beggining leo was a master of his weapons and their's.......

Originally posted by Kento
Raph's hotheadness would be the teams downfall

they dont basically fight smiling do they...

ralph is the most formidable amongst them IMO...

the others basically stay out of his way...

Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
they dont basically fight smiling do they...

ralph is the most formidable amongst them IMO...

the others basically stay out of his way...


he not.....

your letting your bias decide, but not actaully the facts.

Leo has stomped raph before in combat. Actually a bunch of times. He even beat raph and Don at the same time.

Miky has also beaten raph more then once and smetimes with little to no effort.

though really raph and miky are about even in overall skill.

Don is my favorite turtle so I give it to youngsters!

I am pritty sure raph is younger then Don......but I could be wrong