TPM Qui Gon vs ANH Obiwan

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Who will win?

TPM Qui Gon vs ANH Obiwan

I think this is a closer fight than the last one. Also, these 2 guys are very close in age.
Who will win on this one?

😐 Obi-Wan.

Qui-Gon owns him.

Originally posted by allfg
Qui-Gon owns him.

😐 No.

Qui-Gon was clearly less effected by age then Obi-Wan and i think he is a better swordsman, Obi-Wan is probably a little stronger with the Force, but i think Qui-Gon would win after a hard battle, but i am holding my vote for now, if Obis victory is proven.

Ben.

haha, I see this one is much closer than the last one🙂

PS: 60 years old vs 57 years old...

Originally posted by Count Makashi
Qui-Gon was clearly less effected by age then Obi-Wan and i think he is a better swordsman, Obi-Wan is probably a little stronger with the Force, but i think Qui-Gon would win after a hard battle, but i am holding my vote for now, if Obis victory is proven.

Where does it say that Obi's skill was deteriorated of old age? Sorry If I don't know, I am not knowledged unlike some people in Star Wars. Qui-Gon's form is Ataru yes? I read somewhere that Ataru sucks during prolong battles, and guess what? Obi's soresu was meant for it. We saw what Ataru did for Qui-Gon, it gave him a nice hole in his chest/stomach.

Obi-Wan is familiar with Ataru and probably note it against Qui-Gon while fighting with Soresu. Ataru is too much offensive form and could be countered with soresu, so I think Obi got this with lightsaber. Don't know about force though.

I would like to add that Obi holded his own against Vader till he decided to die, and Vader would murder Qui-Gon.

Yoda is also a Ataru user and look how god he is, just because he used Ataru doesn't mean that is the main reason he died because of it, Maul was just better.
Qui-Gon is familiar with Soreusu also,i think i read somewhere that Soreusu is the most common form, in the time of PT, because most of the enemies that the Jedi fight at this time have blasters, but i am not 100% sure. And ROTS is his peak in lightsaber skill.

"You still have your skill, but your power fades."

-Vader to Kenobi in the Episode IV Novel.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
"You still have your skill, but your power fades."

-Vader to Kenobi in the Episode IV Novel.

That's enough for me. I'm off.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
"You still have your skill, but your power fades."

-Vader to Kenobi in the Episode IV Novel.

But that is characters opinion, not a statement from the writer.

Vader know him pretty well... And there are nothing that tell us otherway.

I am with Qui-Gon.

I am with Qui-Gon to, i am just saying that ANH Kenobi isn't that weak.

This is pretty close but I tend to lean towards Kenobi. Their both pretty much the same age but Kenobi was stronger in his day and was able to match Vader in their duel until he gave up. His saber mastery also seems to be greater, taking out Doctor Evasan and Ponda Boba both in about half a second.

Qui-Gon was clearly less effected by age then Obi-Wan and i think he is a better swordsman, Obi-Wan is probably a little stronger with the Force, but i think Qui-Gon would win after a hard battle, but i am holding my vote for now, if Obis victory is proven.

Maybe Qui-Gon was a little less effected but he'd still tire before Kenobi does as he sues Ataru, the least energy efficient form, while Kenobi uses Soresu, the most energy efficient form. And as Kenobi took out two deadly men in around 1/2 a second with his saber and also matched Vader I'd say he's *slightly* above Jinn is with a blade.

Qui-Gon is familiar with Soreusu also

This begs for proof.

"You still have your skill, but your power fades."

-Vader to Kenobi in the Episode IV Novel.


Merely a taunt. The movie shows them being equal or near equal. Plus "your power fades" merely implies that Kenobi's power is decreasing, and in no way makes him weak.

Originally posted by darthsith19
Their both pretty much the same age...
60 vs 57 years old.

Originally posted by Black Dalek
Where does it say that Obi's skill was deteriorated of old age? Sorry If I don't know, I am not knowledged unlike some people in Star Wars. Qui-Gon's form is Ataru yes? I read somewhere that Ataru sucks during prolong battles, and guess what? Obi's soresu was meant for it. We saw what Ataru did for Qui-Gon, it gave him a nice hole in his chest/stomach.

Obi-Wan is familiar with Ataru and probably note it against Qui-Gon while fighting with Soresu. Ataru is too much offensive form and could be countered with soresu, so I think Obi got this with lightsaber. Don't know about force though.

I would like to add that Obi holded his own against Vader till he decided to die, and Vader would murder Qui-Gon.

Sorry man, but do you really think Obi-Wan was improving his saber skills in Tatooine for 20 yrs? I think he hardly used it against a real opponent, and 20 yrs without practising might very well take you the hell out of practice. Yes, he still has the skills, but NOT enough practice. His Force powers might've increased quite a lot, but his saber skill, on the contrary.

Originally posted by Riverollv
Sorry man, but do you really think Obi-Wan was improving his saber skills in Tatooine for 20 yrs? I think he hardly used it against a real opponent, and 20 yrs without practising might very well take you the hell out of practice. Yes, he still has the skills, but NOT enough practice. His Force powers might've increased quite a lot, but his saber skill, on the contrary.

He held his own against Vader till he decided to give up 😐

Originally posted by Black Dalek
He held his own against Vader till he decided to give up 😐
Yes, I agree that Vader's saber skill isn't much better than Ben's.
PS: Then how can Sidious keep up his saber skills while he seldom(or never)practice it?

Originally posted by vader11
Yes, I agree that Vader's saber skill isn't much better than Ben's.
PS: Then how can Sidious keep up his saber skills while he seldom(or never)practice it?

Maybe Sidious did practice, come to think of it, maybe Kenobi did, too. I mean, where does it say that he didn't, I'm not syaing he got better since ROTS or anything cause he obviously got a little weaker with a blade since ROTS but where does it say that he never trained with a blade?