TPM Qui Gon vs ANH Obiwan

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vader11 Senior Member

Most people seems bad in the movies, so Ben may probably quite good actually...

Count Makashi Count Dookus number 1 fan

I think he is very good, not in the same league as Vader, but still very, very good.

vader11 Senior Member

So he is probably very good in the force

Count Makashi Count Dookus number 1 fan

Yup.

kiddo44 Senior Member

close, but Ben takes it.

LORDSIDIOUS01 The BatLord of the Jedi

Qui-Gonn wins here. ANH Kenobi was old very feeble when he fought and lost to Vader. At this point Qui-Gon is the better fighter and should win.

darthsith19 Arm-Wrestler

Originally posted by LORDSIDIOUS01
Qui-Gonn wins here. ANH Kenobi was old very feeble when he fought and lost to Vader. At this point Qui-Gon is the better fighter and should win.

Actually, George Lucas, who is the absolute highest source of canon, far ahead of you, even if you are a genius who reads up on his Star Wars stuff before posting ( 🙄 ), and he calls Old Ben a "Powerful Warrior." Which is the opposite of feeble. So even if you still think that Qui-Gon would win, you can't go around calling Old Ben weak, cause the highest source of canon contradicts you.

Council#13 The Omega Male
Originally posted by LORDSIDIOUS01
Qui-Gonn wins here. ANH Kenobi was old very feeble when he fought and lost to Vader. At this point Qui-Gon is the better fighter and should win.

Well, apart from what DarthSith19 said, Kenobi purposely lost the fight to Vader.

Darth Subjekt The beginning of the end.

But that in no means that he could have won.

Darth Subjekt The beginning of the end.
Originally posted by darthsith19
Actually, George Lucas, who is the absolute highest source of canon, far ahead of you, even if you are a genius who reads up on his Star Wars stuff before posting ( 🙄 ), and he calls Old Ben a "Powerful Warrior." Which is the opposite of feeble. So even if you still think that Qui-Gon would win, you can't go around calling Old Ben weak, cause the highest source of canon contradicts you.

He also said that no one in the OT can compete with a PT warrior, so there that goes.

darthsith19 Arm-Wrestler

Originally posted by Council#13
Well, apart from what DarthSith19 said, Kenobi purposely lost the fight to Vader.

Indeed, and Vader would have beaten Qui-Gon as well.

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
He also said that no one in the OT can compete with a PT warrior, so there that goes.

Well, yeah, but that's clearly wrong, else TPM Kenobi could beat ROTJ Sidious. The other quote still holds water.

Darth Subjekt The beginning of the end.

Sidious wasn't a duelist in the OT, and you can't say that anything Lucas says is wrong. He is the end all be all of Star Wars.

Apollo Cloud Restricted

That's true, but that only works with objective facts, not with subjective points of view.

Darth Subjekt The beginning of the end.

Not subjective at all. You can say its playing with the semantics of the statement, but clearly, as he never once 'dueled', he was not an OT duelist. As you yourself have argued many times, not one duelist in the OT can contend with or beat a PT duelist. QGJ was a PT duelist, ANH Ben is not. Ben is also to whom he was referring when said statement was made.

darthsith19 Arm-Wrestler

Alright then, I will admit that the quote is accurate and will go by it once everyone one of the Vader fanboys/Dooku haters in the Dooku vs. Vader thread concedes and admits that Dooku would beat Vader. Okay?

Darth Subjekt The beginning of the end.

Thats different, lol.

darthsith19 Arm-Wrestler

Lol, how so?

Rampant ox Senior Member

Lets see you talk your way out of this one Subjekt. 😆

Council#13 The Omega Male
Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
But that in no means that he could have won.

I never said he could have won. 😉

Count Makashi Count Dookus number 1 fan
Originally posted by darthsith19
Lol, how so?

Good one dartssith, but knowing Subjekt, he will come up with something, something very good.