Possibly solved the mystery of the compass

Whoops wrong url, here's the right one:

The compass points to material objects only.
http://www.wordplayer.com/forums/moviesarc07/index.cgi?read=85572

Then why is it wavering all throughout DMC? They even say in the commentary that it's pointing to Elizabeth. They don't specifically say why, but they say it does. It's definitely not pointing to her corset.

i think it´s weird they surely said it pointed to elizabeth so what the hell...????welll now i don´t understand it....material things???...and isla de muerta is the material thing???? and is elizabeth material thing??? i don´t think so...it seeems veeery strange to me... 😕

Well Elizabeth is a material girl in a material world 🙂

Maybe it has to do with the way that Jack viewed Elizabeth at first? As a material object. Some men view women as objects rather than as human beings. But in all likely hood, I think that's a far too psychological answer. In all likelihood, the writers are just toying with us.

so maybe it proves, that Jack wants just body... 🙂

Or maybe it just proves that it doesn't matter what the compass thinks. It only matters what the two people who held the compass thought.

Ok, excuse my frustration on this topic..

WHO CARES ABOUT THE COMPASS.

It would be nice to show a lesson in this movie that you don't need a bloody compass to know what you want most. You have your heart to guide to.

I personaly think the writers are toying with us. Writers have a way of manipulating words. They just want us to see our reaction and how we will solve it. It's a way of testing us.

Originally posted by Minie Mina

It would be nice to show a lesson in this movie that you don't need a bloody compass to know what you want most. You have your heart to guide to.

And then we can all hold hands, sing kumbaya and braid the tentacles of Davy Jones beard together?

Yes! Kumbaya all the way, baby!!

And we can pray for world peace!

I have to agree. The writers are messing with us there. Savvy, I believe you and I'm not saying you're messing with us, but I think what you found was either a slip-up (which is very forgivable considering the complexity of the world they created) or a "stop asking us questions" answer. It seems that if they were in a friendly mood, they would have explained it a little deeper instead of just saying "it points to material things."

Jack's thoughts on Liz if the compass only points to material things:

She did have a kickass hat....

Elizabeth: singing I'am in a material world and I'm a material girl!

Originally posted by willofthewisp

She did have a kickass hat....

HA! Ten points for you! That's awesome.

As far as the compass goes, it's a creation of both writers, so one of them believes that it only points to material objects, while the other has a very different interpretation. So it's probably a combination of things. But I think what they're essentially trying to say with their commentary on the compass is that it doesn't much matter where the compass was pointing when it comes to the interpretation of human emotion. The writers are very clear on the fact that they believe actions are much more important than words.

The compass was more than likely pointing at the chest the whole time for Elizabeth; possibly it was pointing to Port Royale and the chest the whole time for Jack. All that matters is where those two characters THOUGHT the compass was pointing and the actions subsequently because of their interpretation.

So in other words, the compass did the trick in tricking them to beleive that they want eachother.

I am taking a que from Willo on this compass puzzle and I offer the following rational. hehehe

I have run across a quote by Peyton Conway March. "There is wonderful mythical law of nature that the three things we crave most in life -- happiness, freedom, and peace of mind -- are always attained by giving them to someone else."

Mythical is an adjective derived from myth: Usually legendary narritive that presents part of the beliefs of a people or explains a practice or natural phenomenon. 2. An imaginary or unverifiable person or thing.
Mythology: a body of myths, especially those dealing with the gods or heros of a people.

The question was, did Jack return to the Pearl because the compass pointed to Lizzy, or the crew, or the Pearl.

Well, if we can believe Ted in his explaination that it points to material things then that would be the Pearl and by returning he in essence shows Lizzy he is a good man, but he also has decided to stay and go down with his "freedom". (He said this on the beach w/lizzy in COTBP)By doing this he knows he will bring peace of mind to the crew, Will and Lizzy, but most of all it will mean happiness for Will who will finally have Jack out of the way. So by his returning he is giving all of his happiness, freedom and peace of mind to others.

Also, the "mythical law"part goes with this Pirate trilogy in that TnT have said the Pirates are like Pirate Gods.

The way TnT twist words and slip in the subtle innuendos, and fact that the whole trilogy is based on freedom, happiness, and peace of mind, I tend to believe that this quote was their whole hypothesis for this trilogy, but after the Kraken attack and Jack tells Gibbs "It's only a ship mate" and looks around, he did not have Lizzy in his sights, it was all for the Pearl.

Or maybe not. hehehe

Originally posted by Minie Mina
So in other words, the compass did the trick in tricking them to beleive that they want eachother.

Well, not exactly. I'm saying that the emotions and desires were probably already there to begin with. All the compass did was allow them an excuse to give into the curiousity that was essentially already in place.

I think I'm not making sense. I'm trying though....

Keep going Savvy you are doing OK.

BTW when Norrington first opened the compass, it pointed at that little island that Johnny wanted to buy after COTBP was through filming. hehehe

No, no. I'm not making any sense. I really hate the compass.

You're explaining it better than me, savvy.

Actually, last time I paused on the scene in CotBP, I couldn't find the red arrow that points at what you most want.