galactus vs phoenix

Started by Kutulu6 pages

The Phoenix attacked starving Galactus before he could even finish his meal of the planet he was trying to feast upon.

That would be like you walking around in the desert for a few days, hungry, tired, weak, seeing a restaurant with a nice 3 course meal with air conditioned seating. You go in, sit down, start to take the first bite, and in walks this B1tch and attacks you with a broomstick while you're trying to sip at your freshly poured cinammon latte with nonfat soymilk foam.

I changed my mind. Galactus wins, then.

Such points of view won't show who would triumph in a true fight

Originally posted by Kutulu
The Phoenix attacked starving Galactus before he could even finish his meal of the planet he was trying to feast upon.

That would be like you walking around in the desert for a few days, hungry, tired, weak, seeing a restaurant with a nice 3 course meal with air conditioned seating. You go in, sit down, start to take the first bite, and in walks this B1tch and attacks you with a broomstick while you're trying to sip at your freshly poured cinammon latte with nonfat soymilk foam.

Well that may be a bit extreme, but continuing with the analogy, even after the waitress bitches you out, you still drop knowledge on her that causes her to quit her job, while you at last can now satisfy your famished self.

And so did Galactus tell the phoenix that she is no better than he is, and perhaps even worse, in the fact that she takes life in order to survive. Reallizing this for the first time the phoenix leaves with her head hung low, and Galactus proceeds to consume the planet, as originally intended.

Lol, those two scans don't make a big enough difference for everyone to start changing their minds.

As proven in a lengthy thread in the 'comic book forum,' Galactus has never been shown at full power - so "full powered Galactus" (assuming full powered = not hungry) doesn't really exist - any battle that involves Galactus means he's hungry.

Originally posted by What If...
Lol, those two scans don't make a big enough difference for everyone to start changing their minds.

As proven in a lengthy thread in the 'comic book forum,' Galactus has never been shown at full power - so "full powered Galactus" (assuming full powered = not hungry) doesn't really exist - any battle that involves Galactus means he's hungry.

A starving galactus focuses on feeding on a planet. And there is no such thing as "really doesnt exist". Possibilities are never to be ignored and do you think if galactus were to face the phoenix he would go to fight her starving? He would get wacked because he is weakened.
Thats like saying a boxer only fights when he is hungry, and when he is hungry and starving he has no energy to fight and therefore would get beat up by some one of the same level and in this case phoenix. If the boxer eats and gets energised, he can beat his opponent, provided he gives everything he got which in this case, galactus did not

The thing is the PF is always fighting at its best. Have we ever actually see galactus fight with everything he has? All i saw in that fight was him shooting that stupid beam where fast opponents have dodged, he didnt try to drain her, he did use TK and he certeinly didnt create a worm whole which can shift an entire galaxy.

Had he done that, he would have destroyed thousands of other planets in the galaxy and thus no more planets to feed on, and with nothing to feed on he dies. Get it?

First off, this is Rachel fighting Galactus...Jean Grey would do much worse to him. ✅

do you think if galactus were to face the phoenix he would go to fight her starving?

Ironic that you would mention that. Galactus purposely went to Earth for the sole purpose of defeating the Phoenix.In Excalibur #25 Galactus is not mentioned to be starving, and he is still defeated.
The thing is the PF is always fighting at its best.

That's false, and completely pulled out of your ass with no evidence. A Phoenix fighting at its best would demolish "an entire cosmos" As shown in this scan, taken from Excalibur #25. Please take note of Galactus basically admitting Phoenix is stronger.

Here, it is STATED that Phoenix is a threat to Galactus' survival.

Thats like saying a boxer only fights when he is hungry, and when he is hungry and starving he has no energy to fight and therefore would get beat up by some one of the same level and in this case phoenix. If the boxer eats and gets energised, he can beat his opponent, provided he gives everything he got which in this case, galactus did not

And please, stop with the stupid analogies...they really don't pertain to this debate.

Dark Phoenix > not full powered galactus
Full powered Galactus =/> Dark Phoenix
Phoenix of white crown > Full powered Galactus

Originally posted by What If...

Ironic that you would mention that. Galactus purposely went to Earth for the sole purpose of defeating the Phoenix.In Excalibur #25 Galactus is not mentioned to be starving, and he is still defeated.

Again does that change the fact that galactus was not at full power, that he gave his best shot? You cant disprove that. Neither can you disprove what i said. And just because galactus was not mentioned to be starving it doesnt mean he wasnt. Galactus would rival eternity at full power

Originally posted by What If...

That's false, and completely pulled out of your ass with no evidence. A Phoenix fighting at its best would demolish [b]"an entire cosmos"
As shown in this scan, taken from Excalibur #25. Please take note of Galactus basically admitting Phoenix is stronger.

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Again we have never seen galactus at his peak, and i specifically stated in this thread that it IS full powered galactus. Hasnt it been proven time and again that phoenix > normal galactus? Because the galactus in that scan was obviously the normal galactus. How bout draining a thousand planets before fighting the phoenix, according to marvel.com it amplifies his strength greatly, the more planet he drains before starving = to the more powerful he becomes.

he may absorb planets more frequently to amplify his power Source: Marvel

Conversely, when he does not feed within his allotted time, his energies will dwindle and by using this quote as a backup, did he feed before facing the phoenix? Not as in one planet but many planets, if so then tell me and i will concede this point

Originally posted by What If...

Here, it is STATED that Phoenix is a threat to Galactus' survival.

Right, and being a threat to someones survival doesnt mean you are necessarily stronger than he is. Luke is a threat to sidious survival, yet sidious > luke
Originally posted by What If...

And please, stop with the stupid analogies...they really don't pertain to this debate.
Please, the 2 scans the other members already proved that rachael fought a weakened galactus, i admitted Phoenix > galactus, but im talking about galactus at his peak

Phoenix for the win

been here before,boring

Originally posted by starlock
Phoenix for the win

been here before,boring

Fanboyism, i have checked several forums and all indicated that full powered galactus rivals eternity in power, and eternity > phoenix

Originally posted by Kadesh
Fanboyism, i have checked several forums and all indicated that full powered galactus rivals eternity in power, and eternity > phoenix

Phoenix Ftw

Im the fanboy? who bumped this thread and who started another one? who in both are begging for a win for galactus,grow up,you are not cool stop trying to be

Lets see Rachel as phoenix throws nova into galactus and knocks him over HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- i love that comic

Originally posted by starlock
Phoenix Ftw
my phrase says it all
Originally posted by starlock

Im the fanboy? who bumped this thread and who started another one? who in both are begging for a win for galactus,grow up,you are not cool stop trying to be
No, not trying to act cool, i think you should stop trying to act tough sitting behind the computer, Begging for a win? Wrong, im debating for a win unlike you who has not contributed anything except fanboyism

Originally posted by starlock

Lets see Rachel as phoenix throws nova into galactus and knocks him over HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA- i love that comic
Lets see, according to the comic you love, it was stated galactus was weakened, and that still galactus got up and talk cock sing song, and guess what, rachael walks away with her head hung low, AWWWWWWWW

Originally posted by Kadesh
my phrase says it all
No, not trying to act cool, i think you should stop trying to act tough sitting behind the computer, Begging for a win? Wrong, im debating for a win unlike you who has not contributed anything except fanboyism

Lets see, according to the comic you love, it was stated galactus was weakened, and that still galactus got up and talk cock sing song, and guess what, rachael walks away with her head hung low, AWWWWWWWW

No sitting behind the computer and being tough is you calling people Fanboy.me responding is not

At least i dont have to imagine a full power galactus to win this one.i bet your brain is working overtime with this one

My advice dont insult anybody because of their views,ask MR Master what happens

Originally posted by starlock
No sitting behind the computer and being tough is you calling people Fanboy.me responding is not
In my point of view, retaliating to a comment is trying to act tough, which is precisely what you did
Originally posted by starlock

At least i dont have to imagine a full power galactus to win this one.i bet your brain is working overtime with this one
LOL i take that as a compliment

Originally posted by starlock

My advice dont insult anybody because of their views,ask MR Master what happens
Fine then, anyways my apologies about the earlier comment

Hey Kadesh i dont hold grudges when people are sincere, so i appologize myself, i have seen you alot in the star wars threads and i respect your views,

i have seen these threads here for a while and i have not been here that long,it kinda sucks when you give your view and your labeled a fanboy,especialy when you yourself has said Phoenix is overrated
it would be easy for everyone to label you a galactus fanboy for that reason alone,anyway i responded to this this thread in a negative way because it has been done alot,not because i dont like you

No hard feelings

But full powered Galactus was killed in the exiles comics, and they didn't even need phoenix.

Originally posted by starlock
Hey Kadesh i dont hold grudges when people are sincere, so i appologize myself, i have seen you alot in the star wars threads and i respect your views,

i have seen these threads here for a while and i have not been here that long,it kinda sucks when you give your view and your labeled a fanboy,especialy when you yourself has said Phoenix is overrated
it would be easy for everyone to label you a galactus fanboy for that reason alone,anyway i responded to this this thread in a negative way because it has been done alot,not because i dont like you

No hard feelings

Yea its no problem, anyways in the SWV its where serious debates take place

Anyways like you would say, pointless to get angry over fiction stuff, no hard feelings 🙂

Besides, if you want to get in real debating, the star wars versus are a very good place to start, count on that lol

Originally posted by llagrok
But full powered Galactus was killed in the exiles comics, and they didn't even need phoenix.

Thats out of continuity.

Originally posted by llagrok
But full powered Galactus was killed in the exiles comics, and they didn't even need phoenix.
Full powered galactus = eternity, and full powered galactus in exiles doesnt equal to "our" galactus as in the one we know.

Phoenix in the movies was depicted to be god like, yet in "our" phoenix, she is completely different and far stronger than the one in the movies

Get my point?

Besides why do people always refer to the phoenix as "she" when the force is actually neither male nor female?

Originally posted by Kadesh
Yea its no problem, anyways in the SWV its where serious debates take place

Anyways like you would say, pointless to get angry over fiction stuff, no hard feelings 🙂

Besides, if you want to get in real debating, the star wars versus are a very good place to start, count on that lol

i am old enough that i saw the first star wars movie in the theater,out of the novels i have almost every one up to 2 years ago and then i stopped,i have been a gamemaster for star wars for 15- 20 years
i even have splinter of the minds eye-which is good

When i first got here i had allready stopped roleplaying star wars and i lost the passion for it,but give me time hehe

See you there one of these days