galactus vs phoenix

Originally posted by starlock
i am old enough that i saw the first star wars movie in the theater,out of the novels i have almost every one up to 2 years ago and then i stopped,i have been a gamemaster for star wars for 15- 20 years
i even have splinter of the minds eye-which is good

When i first got here i had allready stopped roleplaying star wars and i lost the passion for it,but give me time hehe

See you there one of these days

Originally posted by Kadesh
Hmm ok, btw do you read the SW comics? Like TOTJ and dark empire?

Yes but it was when i was loosing my passion for it so i dont have full collections,except dark empire and some minor stuff

Kadesh,

u keep stating that Galactus was in his weak state etc, but the phoenix that defeated galactus isnt even the strongest form of phoenix, its probably the weakest form of phoenix, If the phoenix had jeans avatar it would have beaten galactus even more.

If the Phoenix was Dark Phoenix, it wouldve been overkill,

If the Phoenix was Phoenix of the White Crown.. well u get the point since Phoenix of white crown is Phoenix at its strongest state.

Originally posted by Kadesh
Full powered galactus = eternity, and full powered galactus in exiles doesnt equal to "our" galactus as in the one we know.

Phoenix in the movies was depicted to be god like, yet in "our" phoenix, she is completely different and far stronger than the one in the movies

Get my point?

Besides why do people always refer to the phoenix as "she" when the force is actually neither male nor female?

It's the same Galactus mate. The 616 Galactus isn't like, superior to all the others.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Kadesh,

u keep stating that Galactus was in his weak state etc, but the phoenix that defeated galactus isnt even the strongest form of phoenix, its probably the weakest form of phoenix, If the phoenix had jeans avatar it would have beaten galactus even more.

If the Phoenix was Dark Phoenix, it wouldve been overkill,

If the Phoenix was Phoenix of the White Crown.. well u get the point since Phoenix of white crown is Phoenix at its strongest state.

Originally posted by llagrok
It's the same Galactus mate. The 616 Galactus isn't like, superior to all the others.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Thats out of continuity.

Out of continuity = not canon

And prove it was the same galactus, right you cant, in exiles galactus was the "healer of worlds" and it contradicts 616 which is the "ravager of worlds"

Originally posted by Kadesh
Oh please, then read this

Out of continuity = not canon

And prove it was the same galactus, right you cant, in exiles galactus was the "healer of worlds" and it contradicts 616 which is the "ravager of worlds"

touché 🙂

Originally posted by guy222
U have a blessed week 🙂 wavehi2

You too 😄

Originally posted by Terryc250
Kadesh,

u keep stating that Galactus was in his weak state etc, but the phoenix that defeated galactus isnt even the strongest form of phoenix, its probably the weakest form of phoenix, If the phoenix had jeans avatar it would have beaten galactus even more.

If the Phoenix was Dark Phoenix, it wouldve been overkill,

If the Phoenix was Phoenix of the White Crown.. well u get the point since Phoenix of white crown is Phoenix at its strongest state.

Would it now?

It doesn't really changes the fact that when Galactus fights his energy levels is dropping can you show me a scan of Phoenix powers dropping while fighting??? Here we have a hungry Galactus vs a weak Phoenix yet it doesn't matter since since Phoenix will never need to replenish her energies they just come to her Galactus doesn't. Now full powered Galactus would defeat both phoenix and Dark Phoenix but not phoenix of the white crown, but it is totally irrelavant since it is Galactus FP=eternity (which I doesn't think is true because Galactus can never reach full potential but continue to increase his power for as long as he like but never mind) A phoenix vs Galactus at full power would be vaporized.

ill go with phoenix for the win.
he eats planets she eats stars its simple math.
if he eats 10 planets she eats 10 stars .

This thread lacks Hatred and GS >_<

Phoenix>Eternity=FP Galactus>Celestials

Originally posted by What If...
Here, it is STATED that Phoenix is a threat to Galactus' survival.

Not in terms of a direct threat.

Indirectly though yes,

because Phoenix has the potential to destroy a Universe, thus leaving Galactus with nothing to sustain his hunger.

This is why he complained about him eating Planets while the PF can obliterate an entire Cosmos.

Originally posted by What If...
First off, this is Rachel fighting Galactus ...

Jean Grey would do much worse to him.

Perhaps White Phoenix of the Crown but no other incarnation of Phoenix has had more Phoenix power than Rachel.

The actual Phoenix Force (Avatar-less) tells Rachel,

"ALL I have become, You ARE Too"

"My Essence is Bonded to Your Spirit, the Burden of Power, will be YOURS"

The Phoenix Force itself (Avatar-less) told Rachel,

"You are the ONE TRUE PHOENIX"

Originally posted by What If...
Ironic that you would mention that. Galactus purposely went to Earth for the sole purpose of defeating the Phoenix.

In Excalibur #25 Galactus is not mentioned to be starving,

and he is still defeated.

Actually Galactus's was NEVER defeated by anyone in Excalibur #25.

Big G's INTENTION was to just separate the Phoenix Force from Rachel,

but Roma told him he could NOT because,

when Galactus began this process this happened:

"Galactus the Stars .... they are going out"

Then Roma says,

"THAT CHILD (Rachel Summers) IS PHOENIX, Living Embodiment of ONE of the Primal Forces, you can no more divide her spirit from flesh than you can life from death, there is a natural order to her being (EXISTENCE) as to yours, and all creation"

Is Roma in other words saying,

you can't separate the Phoenix from Rachel. ✅

WHY?

Because "THAT CHILD (Rachel Summers) IS PHOENIX"

continues in the next post ...

Roma then says,

"violate at your own peril"

Galactus then says,
"my sustenance is living Planets, the Phoenix can Obliterate an entire Cosmos"

Then Death responds with,

"and FROM that DEATH (Obliterate an entire Cosmos) bring about New Life (SPARK the Big Bang) but you're CHANGING that, BREAKING the ETERNAL PATTERN"

Galactus said, the "Phoenix CAN Obliterate AN entire Cosmos"

Death responds, "and FROM THAT Death" (Obliterate AN entire Cosmos)

"BRING about NEW LIFE" (SPARK the Big Bang)

This is the Eternal Pattern

So,

the "Eternal Pattern" is Phoenix Force's ROLE in the Universe,

to exist as the "SUSTENANCE of the STARS"

and cyclically SPARK the Big Bang,

which "Obliterates a Cosmos and brings about New Life"

"Phoenix is both the SPARK that IGNITES CREATION (Big Bang)

and the Final Fire that consumes it" (Obliterate an entire Cosmos)

So the "Eternal Pattern" is obviously the Phoenix Force's ROLE in the Universe, to exist as the "SUSTENANCE of the STARS"
and cyclically SPARK the Big Bang which "Obliterates a Cosmos and brings about New Life"

Galactus was about to erase the PF from existence!

ERASE the Phoenix Force, and you BREAK that Pattern.

When the WATCHER & DEATH said this to Galactus,

"Is that your wish Galactus? ... to condemn the Cosmos to ultimate extinction, and yourself to an Eternity in an Infinite Void, can even you endure such desolation?"

"unless that's what you really want? ... You've handed so many over to my care, why not lay down your burdens, and JOIN them?"

Galactus responds with,

"I am Supreme unto myself, I will NOT be bound Reaper, by Entity or Concept"

Watcher says,

"Yet Phoenix LIVES"

Galactus responds,

"FOR the PRESENT ... --- (What does this sound like to you?)

... the day is yours Starchilde, and with it,

an awareness of your Role (the ETERNAL PATTERN) in the Scheme of Things"

The ETERNAL PATTERN, is Phoenix's ROLE in the Universe, Galactus was going to END that PATTERN by ERASING the Phoenix Force from existence,

just like the Official Marvel Handbook clearly states, Roma,

"WARNED Galactus NOT to SLAY Phoenix II"

Phoenix II means the SECOND Phoenix, which is Rachel Summers.

SO once and for all,

the ETERNAL PATTERN was going to be BROKEN, and the STARS were GOING OUT.

and when Roma said this:

"Galactus the Stars, they are going out"

"THAT CHILD (Rachel Summers) IS PHOENIX, Living Embodiment of ONE of the Primal Forces, you can no more divide her spirit from flesh than you can life from death, there is a natural order to her being (EXISTENCE) as to yours, and all creation"

Roma was referring to Phoenix being ERASED from existence, and it's CANON!

(an excerpt from the Roma's OFFICIAL Marvel Universe Handbook Bio)

Bibliography - Excalibur #25 -

"WARNED Galactus NOT to SLAY Phoenix II" (Rachel Summers)

And here is the Full Page:

So she was spared from death because of Galactus understanding her role in the universe.

Originally posted by Utrigita
So she was spared from death because of Galactus understanding her role in the universe.

Exactly. 😄

And Your opinon is just one of many

Phoenix for the win

This thread STILL lacks Hatred and GS counter posting >_<