Originally posted by xxXAcStylesXxx
In league and above people "like" Ulic. It didn't necessarily mean Ulic himself, and Kun and Qel Droma were only equals for a very short period of time, Ulic is not head and heels above the Exile in that respect, and its debatable whether he's even better. [/B]
It's not debateable in saber combat. Kun and Ulic were equals until Kun created his new style
So...since when was Kun at that time the be all end all of saber combat? Especially considering Kun hadn't reached his status as "most powerful being of the age" at that time yet. The narration said they performed like masters, thats nice, so does the Exile when she's able to mimic a style and contend with Jedi Masters who've spent their lives using that particular style after only a few minutes of demonstration.
and Ulic stalemated Sylvar without the force.
No, the f*ck he didn't, he ran away and parried a blow or two, he mounted no offense. Sylvar even says this:
"Ulic, you'll have to do more then block my blows."
Sorry but all evidence puts Ulic as being superior to the exile in saber combat.
It doesn't help your case that there is nothing that calls the exile was a saber prodigy, or especially good with it.
So we need to be spoon feed information for it to be true, whats the definition of a prodigy in the Star Wars universe? Some one who learns things very quickly, what does the Exile do? She learns and becomes adept with: Ataru, Juyo, Niman, Shien, Jar Kari, and Soresu and in minutes. Thus the Exile = prodigy.
Originally posted by xxXAcStylesXxx
So...since when was Kun at that time the be all end all of saber combat? Especially considering Kun hadn't reached his status as "most powerful being of the age" at that time yet. The narration said they performed like masters, thats nice, so does the Exile when she's able to mimic a style and contend with Jedi Masters who've spent their lives using that particular style after only a few minutes of demonstration.
No, the f*ck he didn't, he ran away and parried a blow or two, he mounted no offense. Sylvar even says this:"Ulic, you'll have to do more then block my blows."
So we need to be spoon feed information for it to be true, whats the definition of a prodigy in the Star Wars universe? Some one who learns things very quickly, what does the Exile do? She learns and becomes adept with: Ataru, Juyo, Niman, Shien, Jar Kari, and Soresu and in minutes. Thus the Exile = prodigy. [/B]
Since he still wtfpwned his master as a padwan.
Oh thats great just great, and who the f*ck was his master, Vodo, and since when was Vodo EVER known as anything special in lightsaber dueling? Oh, yeah thats right, never. The fact that he got the shit beat out of him by a padawan proves this.
It doesn't matter what you've heard because Kun and Ulic were both known saber prodigies while the Exile was not,
Translation: "I have to have sourcbook#5 to tell me something because I'm not keen enough to form an opinion on my own"
and has nothing to show for her sable skills. Try again.
Would you stop this "try again" shit? Especially when you've made NO points, you've defeated NONE of mine. Also it reeks of some kind of "holier than thou" attitude which you have no right to claim since your, not that good. And yeah I'm sure her sable skills suck ass.
I'm looking at the comic, you're wrong as usual.
So am I but unlike you I actually back up my statements with proof:
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=6&page=107
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=6&page=108
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=6&page=109
Oh guess what smart guy? In every panel his either blocking or in a flat out run. Oh and smart guy what does Sylvar say on the first page I posted?
"You have to do more then just block my blows Ulic."
So what does that make you? A dip shit who's wrong again
Good god you really are an idiot. Those are gameplay mechanics and there is nothing canon about the exile learning 7 forms.
Nothing canon? Other then the masters like Kavar saying:
"Its remarkable how fast you learn."
or Vrook even though he out right stated he didn't like the Exile admitted that:
"Your form is a little sloppy but you've got it."
But no if it doesn't fit with "Darth Sexy's" view of Star Wars its not canon? Get real, kiddo.
When we have Nomi Sunrider who for the first time in her life touched a lightsaber wielded it like a master, its FAR from a farfetched idea that the Exile could do the same with styles.
You need to learn how to debate facts before you continue this crap.
I do? You've been wrong on almost every point, you can't pay attention to save your life, when I do post something not involving a gameplay element you ignore it, you keep putting words in my mouth (by keep claiming I'm talking about Nihlius) you seem to think your so "LEET" that you don't have to back up your bull shit claims with evidence. So no, its you who needs to learn.
But here as I proved I'm a master at getting your post's down to a T, Darth Sexy's response:
"Shut up, Francine lol, you an idiot! lol, and you can't debate! I just PWNED you lol"
Think up some new insults, your shits getting old, fast.
Originally posted by xxXAcStylesXxx
Oh thats great just great, and who the f*ck was his master, Vodo, and since when was Vodo EVER known as anything special in lightsaber dueling? Oh, yeah thats right, never. The fact that he got the shit beat out of him by a padawan proves this.
Translation: "I have to have sourcbook#5 to tell me something because I'm not keen enough to form an opinion on my own"
Would you stop this "try again" shit? Especially when you've made NO points, you've defeated NONE of mine. Also it reeks of some kind of "holier than thou" attitude which you have no right to claim since your, not that good. And yeah I'm sure her sable skills suck ass.
So am I but unlike you I actually back up my statements with proof:http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=6&page=107
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=6&page=108
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=6&page=109Oh guess what smart guy? In every panel his either blocking or in a flat out run. Oh and smart guy what does Sylvar say on the first page I posted?
"You have to do more then just block my blows Ulic."
So what does that make you? A dip shit who's wrong again
Nothing canon? Other then the masters like Kavar saying:"Its remarkable how fast you learn."
or Vrook even though he out right stated he didn't like the Exile admitted that:
"Your form is a little sloppy but you've got it."
But no if it doesn't fit with "Darth Sexy's" view of Star Wars its not canon? Get real, kiddo.
When we have Nomi Sunrider who for the first time in her life touched a lightsaber wielded it like a master, its FAR from a farfetched idea that the Exile could do the same with styles.
I do? You've been wrong on almost every point, you can't pay attention to save your life, when I do post something not involving a gameplay element you ignore it, you keep putting words in my mouth (by keep claiming I'm talking about Nihlius) you seem to think your so "LEET" that you don't have to back up your bull shit claims with evidence. So no, its you who needs to learn.
But here as I proved I'm a master at getting your post's down to a T, Darth Sexy's response:"Shut up, Francine lol, you an idiot! lol, and you can't debate! I just PWNED you lol"
Think up some new insults, your shits getting old, fast. [/B]
This coming from the guy who takes gameplay mechanics as canon.
Ad Hominem.
No the translation would be "He is stating facts while I'm spewing out garbage such as the fact that the exile allegedly learned all 7 forms of combat within 1 month!!"
What facts? You argument consists of "Nuh uh I don't believes it!"
You have made absolutely no points to defeat, which is why I'm telling you to try again.
Sure little guy.
Oh wow and lets see if your simple mind can grasp this concept. What is he blocking with? What is he doing with Sylvar? That's right big boy you can say it, he's having a saber duel with her WITHOUT using the force. Him not getting wtfpwned and actually blocking all of her blows shows how good he is with the blade, so thanks for proving my point jackass.
Lets see if you can grasp this, no denied that it was a saber duel or that Ulic blocked blows I even SAID that he did, what I did deny was this:
Ulic stalemated Sylvar without the force.
Now do you know what the definition of stalemate is?
stale·mate /ˈsteɪlˌmeɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[steyl-meyt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, -mat·ed, -mat·ing.
2. any position or situation in which no action can be taken or progress made; deadlock
That is not what happened, what happened was Ulic put his saber up to block and ran around, then gave up. That is NOT a f*cking stalemate, learn english retard.
Oh and it really takes SOOOO much skill to block.
Good one, try winning an argument for once.
Seems like I do this everyday, while your arguments consist of
"Nuh uh! francine! I pwned j000!"
Sorry, I don't take a moron who thinks the exile learned 7 forms within a month, as a canon source, seriously.
Sorry, I take a cut scene in a game which is canon according to LeeLand Chee that SAYS the Exile learned these forms VERY QUICKLY over random intrawebz user who thinks he's hot shit.
Except there's nothing to suggest the exile was a saber prodigy or even good with it, despite gameplay mechanics.
Or how about as I've said beating Traya who wield 3 lightsabers attacking from infinite angles, Her beating Sion 5 times in a row, her killing about 20 dark Jedi. Oh and you know the canon cutscene quotes that SAY The Exile learned these fast.
You = Wrong.
That's like saying Revan was a saber god because he learned so quickly. Except for the fact that there is no canon evidence on the exile being good, although Revan was the best in the order of tens of thousands.
Except genius there IS canon evidence, you going "LALALALA" doesn't make it any less canon.
I'm going to give you a female name based on your stupidity, like I did with Noobaris. You have thrown out nothing but gameplay mechanics and your reasoning skills are as bad as they could possibly get, betty.
Did I call it or what.
Yet another idiot like Noobaris, thinking that because you have the ability to type, you've proven a case or an argument.
Again, get some new shit slugger, your staler and more dried up then your grandmothers cooch.
Originally posted by xxXAcStylesXxx
Ad Hominem.
What facts? You argument consists of "Nuh uh I don't believes it!"
Lets see if you can grasp this, no denied that it was a saber duel or that Ulic blocked blows I even SAID that he did, what I did deny was this:Ulic stalemated Sylvar without the force.
Now do you know what the definition of stalemate is?
stale·mate /ˈsteɪlˌmeɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[steyl-meyt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, -mat·ed, -mat·ing.
2. any position or situation in which no action can be taken or progress made; deadlock
That is not what happened, what happened was Ulic put his saber up to block and ran around, then gave up. That is NOT a f*cking stalemate, learn english retard.
Oh and it really takes SOOOO much skill to block.
Seems like I do this everyday, while your arguments consist of
"Nuh uh! francine! I pwned j000!"
Sorry, I take a cut scene in a game which is canon according to LeeLand Chee that SAYS the Exile learned these forms VERY QUICKLY over random intrawebz user who thinks he's hot shit.
Or how about as I've said beating Traya who wield 3 lightsabers attacking from infinite angles, Her beating Sion 5 times in a row, her killing about 20 dark Jedi. Oh and you know the canon cutscene quotes that SAY The Exile learned these fast.
You = Wrong.
Except genius there IS canon evidence, you going "LALALALA" doesn't make it any less canon.
Again, get some new shit slugger, your staler and more dried up then your grandmothers cooch. [/B]
I would get some new material except for the fact that you're a piss poor debater which means your opinion means little to me and I will continue calling you by a girl's name until you learn how to debate.
Do you even know what an Ad Hominem is? And assuming that you did(you clearly don't), it's a little too late for you to be throwing out logical fallacy definitions.
Not really considering you and your "argument" fit the definition of it. But of course I forgot, none of the "rules" of debating apply to Darth Sexy. And again you still didn't respond to the point.
Facts such as there's no proof even with logical deduction, which includes your ridiculous gameplay mechanics.
Except for I provided you with such and you continued your "I don't believes it crap!"
So you acknowledge the fact that it was a stalemate but try to twist the definition to justify your point?
No, I acknowledged the fact that Ulic can block(which Vader did in ROTJ, Which Dooku did in ROTS, which Qui Gon did in TMP, which Vodo did in DLOTS, which any retard can do) you seem to have lost your ability to read.
Nice debating skill Betty. Now for the intelligent person(not you), a stalemate is where there is no clear victor, dead even, etc, aka exactly what happened. Please, continue humoring me.
Are you retarded? (a rhetorical question, of course you are) They were dead even now? I'm sorry, I guess there must be something wrong with my since I could swear that being pushed back to cliff, having to run away and mounting NO offense what so ever, seemed to imply that they were not even. But of course in "DarthSexy" land that is a dead even fight.
And I rest my case.
What case you'd have to actually have an argument for that to happen, Vader showed even while Luke has knocking him around that its not that hard to put your saber up and block, especially considering Ulic had AMPLE area to run.
Except I've defeated you in our other argument a few months ago, and I don't see anything change.
Well "I don't see anything change " in your shitty arguments and you logic of "I insults teh most so i = teh winnar!"
Leeland Chee? Explain what Leeland Chee had to do with KOTOR II.. Thanks
I take a cut scene in a game which is canon according to LeeLand Chee
I didn't say the game now did I? Really slow down big guy, your confusing yourself.
Except that due to gameplay mechanics, you have no idea how she beat the exile nor how she beat Traya.
Except apply just a tiny bit of logical deduction(I know this is a foreign concept to you but hang in there) how the hell else would she combat three lightsabers not bound by the human hand attacking from everywhere, these same lightsabers being controlled by a force user who can kill masters in seconds, blow away ten Sith assassins with the flick of her hand and cloak her presence to masters while standing right in their face. I'll answer it for you since you seem to be totally devoid of any type of intelligence. With a lightsaber.
That's like saying Revan wtf pwned Malak on the starforged if you beat Malak in 30 seconds, which doesn't exactly count as canon.
Not really, dip shit but nice try though.
Denial seems to be a strong characteristic among the poor debaters on here.
Tell me about it.
No dumbass, for the last time, gameplay mechanics aren't canon.
Gameplay mechanics backed up with quotes from cutscenes however are canon.
I know this concept is impossible for you to grasp and I'm sure either Escape or Advent will back me up on this
And yet they haven't, get off this "smarter people then mes will helps me!!!" In fact Escape flat out disagrees with you:
"Darth Sexy, you're not giving her enough credit. She is extremely skilled, and I'd say so."
Wow who looks like a ass clown now? (Hint: Its you.)
but we don't know how the exile beat Traya or Sion.
With logical deduction we do, as for Sion other then the fact that he engages every one in a duel, he flat out says after you kill him a couple times:
"You can strike me down 100 times Exile and I will rise 100 more!"
Strike implies that they're using lightsabers, as for Traya see above.
We don't know how easily or hard of a fight Revan and Malak had..
Expect we do, from numerous sources that say that it was a: vicious, epic battle that left Revan severely wounded. And enough with the double periods..It makes you look dumber then you already do..
I would get some new material except for the fact that you're a piss poor debater which means your opinion means little to me and I will continue calling you by a girl's name until you learn how to debate.
And who in the blue hell are you? The debating "skillz" you've shown thus far are worse then Nebaris's. Really, champ its bout time your insults and your grandmothers vag got some lube.
And here I thought I was gonna finally get a actual logical argument out of you, silly me.
Wow betty, the concept of gameplay mechanics versus canon storyline really does elude you. Since you're making a fool out of yourself I'm going to let someone like Advent or Escape continue this, seeing as common sense seems to be above you.
Translation: Well shit, you've made me look like a complete ass and an idiot, I think I'm gonna let people much smarter then me argue for me. Cause well...I suck.
Really sport, Escape already agrees with me, so looks like your down to hoping Advent will "pwnz!" me for you. 🙄 and if I'm making such a fool out of myself, why can't you prove me wrong? Oh thats right because I've provided ample canon evidence (in the name of quotes from the masters in cut scenes) that backs up the gameplay mechanic.
Moreover with that the game gives an excuse for why the Exile can learn so quickly, its her mimicking and absorbing the knowledge through the force. If you engage in battle with the masters it explains it even better as the Exile can mimic their form to a T in mid duel.
Dude get it through your head, you blow. You've committed logical fallacies, misinterpreted my words, got entire panels in comics wrong, put words in my mouth, ignored canon fact, and although my grammar isn't perfect all the time: at least I can form a sentence that makes sense and NOT use double periods.
Nebaris does MUCH better then you, and although he does have ridicules points at times at least he can form his own opinion instead of hitching on smarter peoples, like you do to Advent, Escape and even me and if I'm such a idiot what does that make you?
Originally posted by xxXAcStylesXxx
And here I thought I was gonna finally get a actual logical argument out of you, silly me.
Translation: Well shit, you've made me look like a complete ass and an idiot, I think I'm gonna let people much smarter then me argue for me. Cause well...I suck.
Really sport, Escape already agrees with me, so looks like your down to hoping Advent will "pwnz!" me for you. 🙄 and if I'm making such a fool out of myself, why can't you prove me wrong? Oh thats right because I've provided ample canon evidence (in the name of quotes from the masters in cut scenes) that backs up the gameplay mechanic.
Moreover with that the game gives an excuse for why the Exile can learn so quickly, its her mimicking and absorbing the knowledge through the force. If you engage in battle with the masters it explains it even better as the Exile can mimic their form to a T in mid duel.
Dude get it through your head, you blow. You've committed logical fallacies, misinterpreted my words, got entire panels in comics wrong, put words in my mouth, ignored canon fact, and although my grammar isn't perfect all the time: at least I can form a sentence that makes sense and NOT use double periods.
Nebaris does MUCH better then you, and although he does have ridicules points at times at least he can form his own opinion instead of hitching on smarter peoples, like you do to Advent, Escape and even me and if I'm such a idiot what does that make you? [/B]
Originally posted by xxXAcStylesXxx
Sure thing tough guy. 👆 Why don't you go take a couple more shots of that absinthe with some of those anti depressants your so fond of mentioning. You need them. [/B]
Good god, you're using my own insults now? It's bad enough that you can't debate for shit but now you're pulling a Noobaris and being a parrot? Way to go Betty. Instead focus on your debating skills, it will greatly reduce the self humiliation.
Escape agrees with you? My my you've taken denial to a whole new level. Twisting escape's words around to try and prove your point is sad beyond belief.
No, retard. Had you had the attention skills higher then that of a 6 year old you'd realise that I hadn't twisted shit, and your just making excuses as to why you can't prove shit, and can't debate for shit.
What Escape said:
2.) The Exile's power issue is also ridiculous. Darth Sexy, you're not giving her enough credit. She is extremely skilled, and I'd say so. At the same time, Ac, the Exile is most definitely not one of the "ubercharacters" - and someone on the level of NJO Luke would wipe his ass with her. In fact, I'd see any of the PT powerhouses taking her down without straining themselves.
But as usual I'll have to spell it out for you: Escape said she's extremely skilled, and thats what I've been saying from the start. Regardless of the current argument, that was the overall point: The Exile is extremely skilled. You however are claiming that she's not and I quote "A relative weakling." Now you've got two people superior to yourself (Me and Escape) saying your wrong. Finally you've YET to provide proof of your stupid claim.
Once again, its gameplay mechanics when the Exile learns 7 forms of lightsaber combat within a few days. It's not canon, it's gameplay. Learn it, understand it, embrace it. You're making a fool out of yourself.
I truly am tired of explaining simple concepts to the dyslexic, I'll go slow because I know its hard for you to concentrate on big concepts, I'll capitalize alot big stuff might get your pathetic minds attention.
The Exile learns these forms in minutes withing seeing them, some call it a gameplay mechanic, which its not since the "CANON" story gives MULTIPLE excuses for why this happens. Such as, her very nature as wound in the force, her mass bonding abilities, and finally the masters even say it at the end on Dantooine.
Not only that (are you still with me idiot?) but we are given CUTSCENE evidence that SAYS that she learned these styles VERY quickly. I really don't see whats so hard for you to grasp about this, if I had only provided gameplay evidence you'd have a point, but I didn't and you as said before: you don't.
Now, who is acting like Nebaris, your arguing CANON FACT. And you look as dumb as he does when he does it. Its a CANON fact that she learned these forms quickly because its SAID in a CUTSCENE.
And come on dumbass, why are you wasting my time with this? You YOURSELF even say that "It's only canon if its in cutscenes." in regards to anything that has to do with Revan, cause your "fav" isn't the one in the argument you change your position? What a stupid b1tch.
As you continuously show, you have no concept of logical fallacies, nor the ability to form cogent arguments. Now please, I say this a lot, quit while you're behind.
A huh I don't do I:
As provided by Dr. Michael C. Labossiere
An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument.
This was what I said:
Oh thats great just great, and who the f*ck was his master, Vodo, and since when was Vodo EVER known as anything special in lightsaber dueling? Oh, yeah thats right, never. The fact that he got the shit beat out of him by a padawan proves this.
You cleverly responded with:
This coming from the guy who takes gameplay mechanics as canon.
"claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument."
You've also committed a Strawman:
The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position. This sort of "reasoning" has the following pattern:
Person A has position X.
Person B presents position Y (which is a distorted version of X).
Person B attacks position Y.
Therefore X is false/incorrect/flawed.
What I said:
I've provided ample canon evidence (in the name of quotes from the masters in cut scenes) that backs up the gameplay mechanic.
Moreover with that the game gives an excuse for why the Exile can learn so quickly, its her mimicking and absorbing the knowledge through the force. If you engage in battle with the masters it explains it even better as the Exile can mimic their form to a T in mid duel.
Nothing canon? Other then the masters like Kavar saying:
"Its remarkable how fast you learn."
or Vrook even though he out right stated he didn't like the Exile admitted that:
"Your form is a little sloppy but you've got it."
When we have Nomi Sunrider who for the first time in her life touched a lightsaber wielded it like a master, its FAR from a far fetched idea that the Exile could do the same with styles.
What you said:
Sorry, I don't take a moron who thinks the exile learned 7 forms within a month, as a canon source, seriously. Once again, its gameplay mechanics when the Exile learns 7 forms of lightsaber combat within a few days. It's not canon, it's gameplay.
"when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position."
Nice Job 👆
And I could name others but my post is already long enough.
I don't need to hitch on Advent or Escape, but they could shut you up better than myself because they have more tolerance for stupidity than myself.
Ok tyke, your like the little kid on the play ground who just got his ass beat and runs to get mommy and daddy to fight teh big baddie bully.
As for you, you're an inferior debater so I don't know why you're lying to yourself about being intelligent, like Noobaris. And calling him better than me makes me laugh, because you're not an authority on the skill of debaters, nor logical arguments, as you are showing yet again.
Wow, a paragraph with no ridicules spelling mistakes AND it actually makes sense! How long did it take you to type that?
But seriously kid, I'm better then you, half this forum is better then you. You "win" your debates by simple dishing out lame ass insults till the opponent gets tired of you. OR you make a few weak ass points and wait for Advent to come in and save your ass. You suck.
BTW: Basic writing tip #1: PROOF READ.
Originally posted by xxXAcStylesXxx
What Escape said:2.) The Exile's power issue is also ridiculous. Darth Sexy, you're not giving her enough credit. She is extremely skilled, and I'd say so. At the same time, Ac, the Exile is most definitely not one of the "ubercharacters" - and someone on the level of NJO Luke would wipe his ass with her. In fact, I'd see any of the PT powerhouses taking her down without straining themselves.
But as usual I'll have to spell it out for you: Escape said she's extremely skilled, and thats what I've been saying from the start. Regardless of the current argument, that was the overall point: The Exile is extremely skilled. You however are claiming that she's not and I quote "A relative weakling." Now you've got two people superior to yourself (Me and Escape) saying your wrong. Finally you've YET to provide proof of your stupid claim.
I truly am tired of explaining simple concepts to the dyslexic, I'll go slow because I know its hard for you to concentrate on big concepts, I'll capitalize alot big stuff might get your pathetic minds attention.
The Exile learns these forms in minutes withing seeing them, some call it a gameplay mechanic, which its not since the "CANON" story gives MULTIPLE excuses for why this happens. Such as, her very nature as wound in the force, her mass bonding abilities, and finally the masters even say it at the end on Dantooine.
Now, who is acting like Nebaris, your arguing CANON FACT. And you look as dumb as he does when he does it. Its a CANON fact that she learned these forms quickly because its SAID in a CUTSCENE.
And come on dumbass, why are you wasting my time with this? You YOURSELF even say that "It's only canon if its in cutscenes." in regards to anything that has to do with Revan, cause your "fav" isn't the one in the argument you change your position? What a stupid b1tch.
I erased your pseudointellectual bullshit because it's clear to the average human being that you took a great deal of time to read and understand logical fallacies, and then apply them to this argument, seeing as how your argued was already defeated. But in a logical debate, the last resort next to conceding a debate is to point out flaws in grammar, spelling, or what you're doing. Congratulations.
Nothing canon? Other then the masters like Kavar saying:"Its remarkable how fast you learn."
or Vrook even though he out right stated he didn't like the Exile admitted that:
"Your form is a little sloppy but you've got it."
When we have Nomi Sunrider who for the first time in her life touched a lightsaber wielded it like a master, its FAR from a far fetched idea that the Exile could do the same with styles.
Follows up with more pseudointellectual shit you clearly spent a huge amount of time on.
Ok tyke, your like the little kid on the play ground who just got his ass beat and runs to get mommy and daddy to fight teh big baddie bully.
Wow, a paragraph with no ridicules spelling mistakes AND it actually makes sense! How long did it take you to type that?
But seriously kid, I'm better then you, half this forum is better then you. You "win" your debates by simple dishing out lame ass insults till the opponent gets tired of you. OR you make a few weak ass points and wait for Advent to come in and save your ass. You suck.
This is fun.
The funny thing is, during your stupid rant you fail to realize that you were making her out to be very powerful, aka giving her too much credit while I didn't give her enough. Learn to read your own arguments..
What a dumb f*ck you are...
I've said this in fact in almost exact wording, I've never stated her to be anything more then she is, an extremely skilled force user capable of adapting to almost any situation in a duel. Does this put her on the level of DN Luke? Hell no, or even Revan? Again hell no, but she is still very powerful in her own right in league and above people like Ulic Qel Droma.
I made it a point to not put her on the level of the powerhouses in Star Wars, but oh I forgot, reading isn't your strong suit.
I still call her average while you claimed that she could somehow beat Ulic in saber combat due to her gameplay mechanics,
Strawman, again. Your really racking up the fallacies.
which Escape never bothered to get into.
And...does that change the fact that he thinks she's extremely skilled? No.
Notice, if you COULD read, my initial argument was that I couldn't discuss the force battle because Ulic is more of an unknown than her. So much for YOUR reading comprehension.
Did I bring this up? No. But does that change the fact that you, and I quote said she's a relative weakling? No. And what does this have to do with the present discussion? Nothing.
Gosh parrot, stop repeating me. You sound like a blubbering vagina when you repeat me word for word.
"blubbering vagina" wow that was lame, you know what forget getting new material, stick to the old stuff. Your not that creative.
No, the canon storyline doesn't say anything you buffoon.
Except it does. Nice job arguing with canon fact.
That's like saying "Oh she knows force storm and force crush because she had the abilities in the game".
Strawman. No, a more accurate description of my argument would be if she used force crush or force storm in a cutscene, then it would be canon. But I know such "high" thinking is FAR above you.
Moreover, the burden of proof is on you to prove it wrong, I've provided a NUMBER of quotes you provided "Darth Sexy's opinion." which, and I think I speak for the entire forum, no gives two shits on a stick about.
You sound like a complete tool when you argue based on your own stupidity.
You sound like a complete tool when you argue based on your own stupidity.
I am NOT arguing canon fact seeing as how it is NOT a canon fact that the exile learned 7 forms of combat quickly.
Except it is, it was said in cutscenes by THREE people at separate times. Its canon fact genius.
You're now comparing her to Yoda and the saber powerhouses,
Hasty Generalization. I NEVER said she was on Yoda's level, in fact I NEVER said she mastered the forms in fact I've gone on record as to saying:
"No, she learned them, it never says she mastered them, the most I'd rank her is adept at the 6 forms."
which is ridiculous and makes you look dumber than you already look.
Now your copying me.
When did I say its only canon if its in a cutscene? Are you a complete moron?
So gameplay evidence IS allowed in debate. 🙄
I erased your pseudointellectual bullshit because it's clear to the average human being that you took a great deal of time to read and understand logical fallacies, and then apply them to this argument, seeing as how your argued was already defeated.
Sure my argued was totally pwned by you 🙄 You haven't defeated shit, you've committed fallacy after fallacy and you claim to be a "logical" debater? Oxymoron, dipshit.
But in a logical debate, the last resort next to conceding a debate is to point out flaws in grammar, spelling, or what you're doing. Congratulations.
Not really, as I've been doing it the entire argument since the start, you're horrid grammar is just that noticeable, since I normally don't care.
What's his name in KOTOR also said the ground shook when Exar Kun walked. Should we believe that as well?
Irrelevant Misdirection, and OBVIOUS hyperbole, we have OTHER canon sources saying thats BS, with the Exile we have THREE separate masters at THREE separate times commenting on the Exiles REMARKABLE ability to learn forms withing moments of seeing them. Its canon.
Yet you're not proving any case for her being even as good as Ulic in saber combat..Nothing..
I've taken into account I'm dealing with mentally challenged here so I wouldn't expect you to..get..it..
Follows up with more pseudointellectual shit you clearly spent a huge amount of time on.
Not really, I don't have to actually try that hard to beat you, its rather easy. I have to put more thought into pwning Nebaris than I do you.
This would only work if you defeated me in a debate, which you haven't now, nor the last time we debated. As I recall, someone had to enter for you because you were getting humiliated and stopped posting in that thread.
No, lil buddy, I stopped posting because I tried to be civil and NOT insult you while you insisted on putting in random insults, this time however, thats not the case. I thought you were one of the "smart guys" on this forum, but thats obviously not the case. I love how in almost every debate your in you claim to "pwnz!" everyone, yet no one agrees with you. Go figure.
Not half as long as it took for you to learn several logical fallacy definitions to increase your pseudointellect.
That made you look like a complete ass clown who has NO clue what he's talking about.
Awww how cute, the Noobaris denial from a piss poor debater. And making shit up with Advent.. That's adorable pumpkin. You done embarassing yourself? Go back to the drawing board, you're a joke.
You are beyond lame, as you've said: Denial does indeed run rampant on this forum. Your a damn fraud, who claims to be the apex of logical debating and in a position to judge others, and yet you don't know how to logically debate, you have atrocious grammar, you commit logical fallacy after logical fallacy, and you can't read. You flat out suck.