I just have to say. The Tenkaichi and Budoukai sucks.
Tenkaichi: the whole camera view is what screwed it up for me. Not to mention that if your playing against another human, that whole running thing really starts to piss me off. And there was no real strategy, you could button mash the whole way through and get the same results as if you truly tried to play with skills.
Budouki: It's basically the same as Tenkaichi except for the camera angle was better, IMO. And the whole balance between characters sucked. Like if you have an early DBZ character VS a new one, it's extremely hard to win. And all the characters can use the same moves. The only Budouki that is good is 3.
SDBZ:The great thing is that the graphics are the best yet and each characters actually has a different fighting style and really good combos, the characters in the other dbz games are basically the same but there attacks look different. It has Best DBZ cell shaded graphics. Its got Rare and weird dragonball characters. The characters are actually different!!! Nice feel. Lets not forget about the good multiplayer. It's 1980s arcade and manga style and more traditional fighting game mechanics makes this DBZ the closest thing to an actual fighting game. Fighting games are my favorite genre and and when a DBZ game can get close to that. . .it's like Madden. . . "It's good"!
all 3 budoukais sucked.. from a series thats known to have had tidal waves of crappy games... tenkaichi 2 has redeemed my opinion of what is possible from trying something unconventional
granted its not balanced, but from a company that hasn't been known to make 'fighting game of the year' software, I give them much respect
so I agree budoukai sucked.. but not tenkai2.. its probably the deepest non-traditional fighter that the license has ever seen, bar none
In my opinion, its due to the amount of options you have..
i.e. if someone dashes at you with a rush move (which results in a cut scene attack), and you're either freeza or piccolo.. you can use the kaikosen type blast 1 move, which stuns them as they rush up to you, which frees them up for a combo or a grab
(the blast 1's have quite a range of effects.. some stun the enemy if they close in...some give you MAX power after the animation completes, some will teleport you behind your opponent, or leave afterimages when they strike you, some (namely solar flare) break enemy lock-on for a short period of time, and some just simply raise your attack power and speed slightly)
or you can rush back at them which, upon collision, activates a cutscene where you gotta rotate the analogues rapidly.. person with the higher amount of strikes sends the other person flying back
I've also seen people teleport out of it, use a character special move (which is hard because the rush moves are guide-able with the controller to allow avoidance) and then the most risky, punch em with correct timing and you may knock them out of it... theres also a deep-block.. but if you block a rush with that you get stunned and the rusher gets sent flying backwards.. rapidly pressing circle will get rid of your stun.
the combos aren't bad either.. you can teleport around your enemy in the middle of a string.. or if you go to do a heavy strike, he may teleport out of the way. you can step in underneath your opponents strikes.. or force your character to take a hit to strike back (some chars grab, some chars just lean back to avoid the hit rather than strike back).. or you can stop yourself in the middle of a string and grab to psyche em out...kick em up in the air and dash after them for a chain of heavy hits (which can be teleported out of by the enemy with the correct timing)
I'm all about the options.. if I see a fighter and you dont have many choices for a given situation, I usually become disappointed..
but I suppose it comes down to what your viewpoint of depth is as well....
and I said 'deep for a non-traditional fighter'.. I'm not comparing it to ChoDBZ, cuz like you said.. apples and oranges
Originally posted by Estacado
I have the game but it's meh.It's nowhere near budokai 3 or tenkaichi there are only few characters the effects and explosions are pretty "lame" and the fighting system is pretty bad.
That's the impression I got just by looking at the pictures on the back side of the box/case for the game -_-, as much as I like DBZ...
Originally posted by King Nothing
All Dragon Ball games suck, SDBZ is ok and the only one being worth calling a game is Legacy of Goku.
First you say all DB games suck, and then you say SDBZ is "ok". That's a contradiction if I ever saw one. ๐
As for the Legacy of Goku, I hardly see how that old game compares to DBZ: BT 2.
Originally posted by King Nothing
All Dragon Ball games suck, SDBZ is ok and the only one being worth calling a game is Legacy of Goku.
Well said
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
First you say all DB games suck, and then you say SDBZ is "ok". That's a contradiction if I ever saw one. ๐
Hey, if you wanna play a fighting game that's all about theatrics, and pretty much plays it's self then BT2 is perfect for you. As for people that actually want a good fighting game and it's a DBZ game, Pick up SDBZ.
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
In my opinion, its due to the amount of options you have..
More options don't really make a game deep, it's being able to use the options you have in various ways that does.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
More options don't really make a game deep, it's being able to use the options you have in various ways that does.
could you describe that a bit more?... like if you could change tenkaichi 2 to suit your definition of depth.. what would you add / replace / etc?
as for it playing itself.. I think that could even apply to when supermoves / finishing moves are used in any fighting game.. when the super / finisher is active you just sit back and watch til it finishes.. the timespan for this is much less for regular specials, obviously.. everyone falls victim to waiting on animations in one way or the other
if it refers to skill, you can clearly tell who is a noob and who isnt in tenkai2
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Hey, if you wanna play a fighting game that's all about theatrics, and pretty much plays it's self then BT2 is perfect for you. As for people that actually want a good fighting game and it's a DBZ game, Pick up SDBZ.
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
could you describe that a bit more?... like if you could change tenkaichi 2 to suit your definition of depth.. what would you add / replace / etc?
Well, I wouldn't really want Tenkaichi to become the way I play fighters, but since this is a hypotheitcal situation I would:
-Reduce the cast
-Change the camera angle
-Get rid os the Ki gauge
-Use archetypes like Street Fighter
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
if it refers to skill, you can clearly tell who is a noob and who isnt in tenkai2
The game looks to much like a braindead fighter. The only really reason I hear people play this game is for flashy moves, and a huge cast that's it. Based of that I cannot really sum up a positive image of the game.
lol some super dbz theatrics... and with bad english dubbing o.o
though I always have a softspot hearing freeza calling people worthless trash <3
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
YouTube videolol some super dbz theatrics... and with bad english dubbing o.o
though I always have a softspot hearing freeza calling people worthless trash <3
That's the console version which I've always contested sucks donkey balls.
Ugh.. naruto ultimate ninja 2 was a decent fix.. but the characters are unbalanced.. /sigh
is this game 20 dollars?... if so I'm definitely taking my arse up to the nearest EB ๐
Edit : http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=939394 doh!.. its used!... blasphemy.... maybe a toys r us bargain bin or bestbuy can sate my hunger for fighters @_@
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
Ugh.. naruto ultimate ninja 2 was a decent fix.. but the characters are unbalanced.. /sighis this game 20 dollars?... if so I'm definitely taking my arse up to the nearest EB ๐
Edit : http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=939394 doh!.. its used!... blasphemy.... maybe a toys r us bargain bin or bestbuy can sate my hunger for fighters @_@
This game should definetly be 20 bucks or less.