sith showdown

Started by Gideon7 pages

That may, LORDSIDIOUS, but when "opinions" do not stand against fact. Your assertion that Count Dooku "has no skills" may be your opinion, but it is simply wrong. And because it is wrong, it means that it is worthless. In an argument, your opinion = nothing. In this case, at least.

Sidious and Dooku win, by the way.

Oh yeah, Sidious & Dooku win.

I'm with Sidious here, Count Dooku has no game.

This battle is very close. All four of the combatents are about equal IMO. I'd imagine that the two strongest pair up against eachother and the weaker two do the same (Dooku and Malak being slightly weaker than Sidious and Revan). At that point it just goes to Sid's and Dooku because they are just plain stronger. I'd personally put Revan at like 95% as strong as Sidious and Malak at like 95% as strong as Dooku.

BTW, Dooku DOES have game. Dark Rendevous makes it clear that Dooku was VERY powerful.

Why Dooku seems so underrated? He is indeed quite powerful. I put him a little above Vader.

[QUOTE=8708036]Originally posted by Advent
Please, fool. Don't tell me what you do or don't have to do. You obviously lack knowledge in Star Wars, otherwise your claims wouldn't be as ridiculous as they are.

Bullshit, much? Define 'all material', first of all. Secondly, I'd tell you I can guarentee you haven't read more than a few miscellaneous books, and comics. Thirdly, a hint: swtimeline doesn't have 'all the material'.

But, your so called 'opinions' are trumped by fact. You may not like character x, or character y, but to make such statements like 'X has no true skill' is purely ludicrous, especially considering there are declarations from omniscient narrators, and tons of evidence to disprove that.

Except you state your 'opinion' (termed loosely) as fact, and you don't simply state "OH i h4t3 d0o0o0oKu!!!!//!!!ONEELEVEN!!", you make - as I said - idiotic assertions on their abilities which aren't true in the least bit.

Your assumptions are also just as wild, and virtually everything of what you bring to the table to support those assumptions is insane, for lack of a better word.

And no one is disputing that, but what you're doing is taking it to a different level, and not being rational. Really, a lot of other users have already told you why what you're doing is devoid of reasoning. [/QUO

I am not a fool. I have plenty of knowledge regarding Star Wars. I have each and every right to say what I think and believe. Just like evryone else.

Then I must say your belief is quite weird indeed😆

Originally posted by Gideon
That may, LORDSIDIOUS, but when "opinions" do not stand against fact. Your assertion that Count Dooku "has no skills" may be your opinion, but it is simply wrong. And because it is wrong, it means that it is worthless. In an argument, your opinion = nothing. In this case, at least.

Sidious and Dooku win, by the way.

What are "YOUR" facts as to why Dooku lost so easily to ROTS Anakin?

Peace until tomorrow when I am back on.

may i say i think that revan would be able to hold off sidous till

malak defeats dooku and then malak and revan would be able to defeat sidious

altho dooku may be power malak is more powerfull.
i read somewhere this comparison list of malak and dooku
malak has more in wars that dooku
malak and dooku have almost the same in force powers but malak has a few more powers that are powerful
malak is more powerfull than malak in physical strengh and malak has a longer lightsaber giving him another advatage

and revan is almost equal but sidious would win barley so it would give malak enough time for malak to defeat dooku and come to revan's aid and their combined strengh would overcome sidious

O.K. This is really starting to irk me. Kreia and multiple other people said that in the times before Revan and Malak people had much greater lightsaber skills and slowly as the future comes the skill degrades... therefore wouldn't it be the same for Revan and Malak compared to Sidious and Dooku and therefore Revan and Malak would pwn.

you are aware that kreia trained revan right?

Originally posted by A Dose Of Vraya
Kreia and multiple other people said that in the times before Revan and Malak people had much greater lightsaber skills and slowly as the future comes the skill degrades. therefore wouldn't it be the same for Revan and Malak compared to Sidious and Dooku and therefore Revan and Malak would pwn.

That's one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever heard, care to provide the actual in game quote verbatim?

By this logic Exar Kun, for example, would possess more talent and ability with the blade than DN Luke. That's absurd, considering all the feats of power we have which disprove that. Indeed, Kreia was 100% wrong. Of course, that's not excluding the fact that she's a third party character, and a fallible source since she's not omniscient. Really, quotes made by in-universe characters are hardly trustworthy, and they - in no way - can be used as proof of 'superiority' (unless a character admits inferiority to another, and similar cases). Especially in this case, Traya's evidence comes from where exactly? Unless she watched the movies, and read all of the comic books and novels after her time (or in-universally foresaw every single event displays in the movies, comics, and novels), then her quote holds absolutely no water.

Try again.

The prequel era of Star Wars produced prodigies like Anakin Skywalker, Yoda, Mace Windu, and Sidious. All of whom would defeat Malak in lightsaber combat for sure. I mean, those like Kun, Ulic, Malak, Revan, etc. don't hold a candle to Luke Skywalker in saber combat from NJO, and beyond. You should really work on expanding your knowledge of Star Wars lore, and take some classes in logic, because your post is completely faulty in its reasonings.

Originally posted by LORDSIDIOUS01
What are "YOUR" facts as to why Dooku lost so easily to ROTS Anakin?

Advent is correct, you idiot. It's not that Dooku was weak, but - at that point - Anakin was simply much more powerful than him.

Originally posted by A Dose Of Vraya
O.K. This is really starting to irk me. Kreia and multiple other people said that in the times before Revan and Malak people had much greater lightsaber skills and slowly as the future comes the skill degrades... therefore wouldn't it be the same for Revan and Malak compared to Sidious and Dooku and therefore Revan and Malak would pwn.

Kreia stated that her contemporaries (sp?) were like "children with toys" in comparison to the Ancient Sith.

a.) That does not mean, in any way, shape, or form, that as time progresses - skills decrease. The closest thing you can claim is that it is an implication, which doesn't function as fact.

b.) Even if Kreia said that, she is still a fallible third-party character, and since she'd really have no idea how everyone in the future fights, she'd be essentially "out-of-place" to make such a claim, meaning it is dismissed. Her incredible (but fallible) foresight included.

c.) If this dogmatic doctrine were true, then Malak or Revan could take DE Sidious or NJO Luke. That would mean that RotJ Luke > NJO Luke, since time would have to progress in order for him to improve, which - according to you - would mean his skills would decline. Which means that your theory is ultimately flawed and a non issue.

Originally posted by vader11
Why Dooku seems so underrated? He is indeed quite powerful. I put him a little above Vader.
Idiot, "0 b3cuZ h3 !$ s0 P0wD3rFuL S0 ! pUt H!M @b0v3 V@d3r" Nice and shitty logic you have

Originally posted by Kadesh
Idiot, "0 b3cuZ h3 !$ s0 P0wD3rFuL S0 ! pUt H!M @b0v3 V@d3r" Nice and shitty logic you have
Why you are not an Idiot if you put Vader above Dooku, fool.

Originally posted by vader11
Why you are not an Idiot if you put Vader above Dooku, fool.
Because vader is powerful too and you so far have said nothing to put dooku above vader in sheer power alone. Now shut your hole and go go back to sucking your mothers ahem

Yes, that is my opinion, everyone has its own opinion, & are they all idiot? There's no proof that which of them is better so I can say Dooku is better. I have the freedom of speech. You are idiot too if you say Vader>Dooku.