sith showdown

What does enigmatic mean, i am not from English speaking country, so sory.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Again Escape, I would put even a regular Malak at worst, a match for Dooku in the force. A SF powered Malak would be superior

Darth Sexy, I am beginning to think that you're developing a soft spot for these KotoR characters. A 'regular' Malak isn't as powerful as Dooku in the Force or in lightsaber combat. If you'd like to argue it, then do so with Advent.

Edit: Enigmatic means mysterious.

OK, thx.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
OK, thx.

Don't have one at home.

Originally posted by Gideon
Darth Sexy, I am beginning to think that you're developing a soft spot for these KotoR characters. A 'regular' Malak isn't as powerful as Dooku in the Force or in lightsaber combat. If you'd like to argue it, then do so with Advent.

Edit: Enigmatic means mysterious.

Ok Escape, Malak was #2 in an order of tens of thousands, please name me techniques he didn't know that Dooku was aware of. We know he knew force drain well, which Dooku didn't know, so in terms of offensive weapons, he has more of them. And this is before he becomes nearly invincible on the SF. You can think that I'm developing a soft spot for KOTOR, but I can claim that you do the same with the PT Jedi.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
Don't have one at home.

Ok Escape, Malak was #2 in an order of tens of thousands, please name me techniques he didn't know that Dooku was aware of.

Ah, you're going to pull out the Malak-was-the-greatest-in-an-order-of-tens-of-thousands card? Count Dooku, if my memory serves me, has been labeled one of the greatest Jedi in the history of the Order and an even greater Dark Lord of the Sith, according to the RotS novelization. Yoda calls Dooku "the wisest and most learned" of the Jedi, as well as his greatest student. Dooku was also the greatest of the Lost Twenty. So... I would consider Dooku's credentials to be a lot more proficient than Malak's own.

We know he knew force drain well, which Dooku didn't know, so in terms of offensive weapons, he has more of them.

Where is this proof? Dooku was able to bring Ventress to her knees by lifting a finger. He floored Sora Bulq - a very powerful dark Jedi and user of Vaapad - with a single gout of Force lightning.

And this is before he becomes nearly invincible on the SF.

Nearly invincible? We can argue semantics, if you'd like, and that's another thing that Advent has hammered - the databank statement that Malak was "nearly invincible".

You can think that I'm developing a soft spot for KOTOR, but I can claim that you do the same with the PT Jedi.

Please. I've argued harder for Revan and Dooku (incidentally characters I don't like) than I've ever argued for any other character, Sidious included. You can accuse me of many things, but I never argue out of bias.

I simply operate on fact, rather than fiction.

Edit: In any case, I told you to take it up with Advent, who is far more capable of delivering a solid argument than me. Defeating me is much more different and much easier than taking her on, so if you feel that you're right, go ahead and tackle her.

Originally posted by Gideon
Ah, you're going to pull out the Malak-was-the-greatest-in-an-order-of-tens-of-thousands card? Count Dooku, if my memory serves me, has been labeled one of the greatest Jedi in the history of the Order and an even greater Dark Lord of the Sith, according to the RotS novelization. Yoda calls Dooku "the wisest and most learned" of the Jedi, as well as his greatest student. Dooku was also the greatest of the Lost Twenty. So... I would consider Dooku's credentials to be a lot more proficient than Malak's own.

Where is this proof? Dooku was able to bring Ventress to her knees by lifting a finger. He floored Sora Bulq - a very powerful dark Jedi and user of Vaapad - with a single gout of Force lightning.

Nearly invincible? We can argue semantics, if you'd like, and that's another thing that Advent has hammered - the databank statement that Malak was "nearly invincible".

Please. I've argued harder for Revan and Dooku (incidentally characters I don't like) than I've ever argued for any other character, Sidious included. You can accuse me of many things, but I never argue out of bias.

I simply operate on fact, rather than fiction.

Edit: In any case, I told you to take it up with Advent, who is far more capable of delivering a solid argument than me. Defeating me is much more different and much easier than taking her on, so if you feel that you're right, go ahead and tackle her.

In terms of offensive weapons, Malak has a force drain. What does Dooku know that Malak doesn't?

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
In terms of offensive weapons, Malak has a force drain. What does Dooku know that Malak doesn't?

Of my entire argument, that is what you choose to respond to? I don't play that game, Darth Sexy. So, in return, you can just take it up with Advent.

Well if Dooku is superior to Malak, he can do it either by saber combat, or force abilities, or both. Notice how I never argued saber combat. In terms of force abilities, they all have the same sith powers, except Malak has an additional force drain.

Originally posted by Riverollv
It's useless to debate with him, Kadesh. He is a Malak super-fanboy. All he says is crap, you will never make him see his stupidity.

I don't even like him but that does not means that I would trash him or any character that I don't like.

What you say is not 100% perfect either so why not generate an argument about Dooku and make him look better.

And if you can't then STFU.

Originally posted by Kadesh
Didnt you tell me before you wouldnt interfere with a debate between me and another person? Now you gave me the impression that you are untrustworthy.

Originally posted by Kadesh
Wow getting stunned means malak is more powerful, Its ironic isnt it that malak on the leviathen could stun revan yet lost to him while getting powered up by the starforge, Such irony amazes me, Espcially when it comes from youe

A)- One reason is that Revan became more powerful and his defensive abilities had improved, when he raided Star Forge and fought with Malak for the second time.

B)- Another reason is that Malak never used his stunning tactics on Revan during his duel with him on Star Forge or Revan never gave him the chance to do so in that final duel.

Originally posted by Kadesh
"Powerful" in what sense? He stunned bastila, who is far weaker than malak, he stunned carth who is a non user and for all we know he could have stunned revan when he is offguard, stunning some body doesnt mean shit, especially if you compare malak to sidious who wiped out 3 sith lord powerful enough to bring dead people back from the dead to ashes. Malak is powerful, but inferior to sidious

And no one is comparing Malak with Sidious.

Originally posted by Kadesh
i actually meant experience in the force, sorry bout that

Originally posted by Kadesh
I concede the earlier point but id like to bring up one point, having more experience in war doesnt put you above someone when it comes to force fights or lightsaber duels

Originally posted by Kadesh
True, but dookus knowledge of the force surpasses him

Originally posted by Kadesh
Wow so force whirling a stronger jedi means your powerful?

Originally posted by Kadesh
How bout i state the dark women is super powerful because she managed to attack vader with the force?

Originally posted by Kadesh
Sorry to burst your bubble but he killed a weakened jedi with his lightning, the cutscenes prove you wrong already

Originally posted by Kadesh
Proof that malak has force deflection? Show me a source and not baseless assumptions.

Originally posted by Kadesh
And deflect with a lightsaber? Mace who is arguebly stronger than malak had ahell of a hard time blocking sidious lightning and yoda who had force deflect got blown back by sidious lighting, If 2 stronger jedis had a hard time doing it, what makes you think malak can?

Malak would prefer to Force shield himself or deflect Lightning attack. His defensive abilities are certainly very good as evident from KOTOR.

Originally posted by Kadesh
All force attacks? he didnt demonstrate crush and several other abilities that bane, revan, vader sidious exar kun had demonstrated

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Ok you can quit with the Malak fanboyism, because it's destroying your own logic. If you are arguing about who's better in the force, then for sure it is Malak, but I wouldn't even think twice if you were arguing who is better in saber combat, which is clearly Dooku. And I don't see how he instantly killed a jedi with his force lightning, unless you're conveniently forgetting that he was force choking the jedi as well.

Malak and Dooku cannot be compared when we talk about Saber Combat because Malak is unknown in this case.

And that Jedi was trapped through a telekinetic grip and not being choked.

WTF do you think a "telekinetic grip" is douchebag?

EDIT.

Ill finish this another time

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
they all have the same sith powers, except Malak has an additional force drain.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
WTF do you think a "telekinetic grip" is douchebag?

You have a better name for that action then name it.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Hey idiot, Malak held those two Jedi in a Gripping form and he wasn't even looking at that them and nor even pointing his hand towards them, while he was talking to Revan. It was a display of telekinetic gripping.

You have a better name for that action then name it.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Hey idiot, Malak held those two Jedi in a Gripping form and he wasn't even looking at that them and nor even pointing his hand towards them, while he was talking to Revan. It was a display of telekinetic gripping.

You have a better name for that action then name it.

Yea dumbass, a force grip. The same thing Vader did on his star destroyer while talking through a video link. It's the same maneuver, moron.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Yea dumbass, a force grip. The same thing Vader did on his star destroyer while talking through a video link. It's the same maneuver, moron.

Just simply say that it is a Force Grip.