Ranks for MAs

Originally posted by Battlehammer
actaully yes it is. The more deserving should be discussed and moved up before any talk about others. It stupid to discuss moving up an idnividual who not even the most ksill person in his tier.

Er no it doesnt not neccsarily, again you are incapable of only seeing thing from your point of view.

Its also a matter of opinion whos more deserving.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
because this entire thing seem to be based on bias liking of character. They moved friggin cyclopes to third even though there people like falcon in the 4th tier who would kick his ass in h2h. Hell storm even beat cyclopes becuase she was a better fighter before.

Could you stop bitchin? I put your vote down.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Does he use actuall skill or does he just push them around?

Both. Respect thread?

Originally posted by Juk3n
Against Kingpin to 2nd, his classic level displays were more strength based then MA based.

Why is everyone only focusing on his classic appearances?

His style is more Sumo, and since when does one have to show a wide array of MA skill to be in 2nd tier? The man is effective by using what he does. And he was shown to use some MA technique as well.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
because this entire thing seem to be based on bias liking of character. They moved friggin cyclopes to third even though there people like falcon in the 4th tier who would kick his ass in h2h. Hell storm even beat cyclopes becuase she was a better fighter before.

I am gonna have to agree with you on Cyclop I dont know how the hell he gets moved up and not other considering who is on the 4th tier

Originally posted by jrodslam
since when does one have to show a wide array of MA skill to be in 2nd tier? he was shown to use some MA technique as well.

this is your reasoning to put him n a tier labled [master martial artists]

are you kidding me?

This is a strict martial arts ability list, not a general fighting/brawling ability list, being good at the latter isnt basis to be high on this list which is why i am against him for 2nd tier.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
I am gonna have to agree with you on Cyclop I dont know how the hell he gets moved up and not other considering who is on the 4th tier

Originally posted by Juk3n
this is your reasoning to put him n a tier labled [master martial artists]

are you kidding me?

This is a strict martial arts ability list, not a general fighting/brawling ability list, being good at the latter isnt basis to be high on this list which is why i am against him for 2nd tier.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Er no it doesnt not neccsarily, again you are incapable of only seeing thing from your point of view.

Its also a matter of opinion whos more deserving.

Could you stop bitchin? I put your vote down.

Really tell me how it make senses to move individuals up a tier when there not even the most skill people in there tier? arnt the more skilled more derserving then less skilled? Is it not the point of this thread to rightfully place individual based on there skills comapred to others? so how does it make senses to mvoe less skilled fighters up a tier before moving other who are more skilled?

no it not. it a fact that there are more skilled individuals in tier 4 then cyclopes.

Not bitching I am being logical. People should be move up based in there skills not based on popularity in the forums

Originally posted by Battlehammer
right how the hell did they come up with moving cyclopes up when there are so many in his tier as deserving or more so.

If Cyclops gets a push then we should argue for others in tier 4 too.

Table needs to be redone badly. More people should vote as well. Hardly anybody is taking part. 🙁

Originally posted by Juk3n
this is your reasoning to put him n a tier labled [master martial artists]

are you kidding me?

This is a strict martial arts ability list, not a general fighting/brawling ability list, being good at the latter isnt basis to be high on this list which is why i am against him for 2nd tier.

Ok, so Cable, Red Skull, Wildcat, Silver Samurai are masterfully skilled in the MA's? Have they shown various styles?

Originally posted by jrodslam
Ok, so Cable, Red Skull, Wildcat, Silver Samurai are masterfully skilled in the MA's? Have they shown various styles?

silver suamuria has been stated and shown to be a mster of numerous martial art styles. Hell he even showed to know ancient styles of fighting that arnt evn currently used.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
silver suamuria has been stated and shown to be a mster of numerous martial art styles. Hell he even showed to know ancient styles of fighting that arnt evn currently used.

Stating it, and showing it are two different things.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
silver suamuria has been stated and shown to be a mster of numerous martial art styles. Hell he even showed to know ancient styles of fighting that arnt evn currently used.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Let's see scans of him using it agaisnt a top tier H2H.

I'm genuinely not trying to be and arsehole but......................let's also see Blade using H2H and doing well against a top tier.

Both these guys suffer from the same problem.

Originally posted by Warrior18
I'm genuinely not trying to be and arsehole but......................let's also see Blade using H2H and doing well against a top tier.

Both these guys suffer from the same problem.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
That's exactly why I asked the question genius. It's ok for Samurai to have the benefit of the doubt but not Blade?

I only thought Samurai was really 2nd tier when I assumed we took weapons into account. Since nobody takes them into account SS is no longer 2nd tier then. I now accept that.

Now let's see Blade's H2H showing against a top tier.

Genius.

Originally posted by Warrior18
I only thought Samurai was really 2nd tier when I assumed we took weapons into account. Since nobody takes them into account SS is no longer 2nd tier then. I now accept that.

Now let's see Blade's H2H showing against a top tier.

Genius.

Blade hasn't fought top tiers and you know it but Samurai has, I don't see why the character has to suffer in the rankings from that.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Good as long as you admitt that you're a genius.

Blade hasn't fought top tiers and you know it but Samurai has, I don't see why the character has to suffer in the rankings from that.

But it seems we don't take weapons into account.

As far as I know both these chaps have used weapons too extensively in their close quarter fights. Thus they are lacking in the pure H2H department.Thus they should not be ranked as high as they are.

Originally posted by Warrior18
But it seems we don't take weapons into account.

As far as I know both these chaps have used weapons too extensively in their close quarter fights. Thus they are lacking in the pure H2H department.Thus they should not be ranked as high as they are.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Even with the use of weapons you wouldn't put Blade at 2nd tier?

A high third in my opinion. He obviously knows what he is doing and it is his styled weapon of choice.

I simply haven't seen his skill matched favourably against a very high rate swordsman for me to put him in the tier just below top.